Because half of Americans have no idea what's going on, a quarter of them support the coup, and out of the remaining quarter, 99% are burnt out wage slaves that are just one missed shift away from losing everything. We literally can't do anything because we are minority; just rats trapped in a maze.
That is unfortunately the truth of it.
I'm one of the burned out wage slaves. I like my job, at least, but I'm struggling just to keep my life together, let alone society.
I know that's true for almost anyone who would be part of a resistance, but the learned helplessness is real.
Four out of three Americans don't understand fractions.
No it's only 3 thirds us 😡 /s
God fucking dammit. Fixed.
We still have too much to lose in a revolt. Most people are still materially comfortable (or at least that hasn't changed because of Trump).
Hasnt changed cause of trump yet
Yep. So give it time, we won't do shit until AFTER he burns it all down.
its been so long since i've seen an angry german kid meme.
I've been seeing a resurgence of 2010s memes lately and I am all for it. The millenials have awoken
Share this video with your friends and family. Its being suppressed.
is it being suppressed or is it just macklemore?
Americans are already revolting.
Zing
I keked
I have bad aim... 😓
...in video games, obviously 😉
(Also, my eyesight kinda sucks too...)
well, having the most overfunded military plus homeland security plus NSA&fbi makes a revolt kinda suicidal….
but hey, we can buy riflesrifles don't mean shit if you can't aim
just ask... ahem that person that missed the target by centimeters when he went hunting last year
somehow i’m much better aiming with a pistol than a rifle
Don't forget ICE has broad extra judicial powers when you're within 500 miles of a boarder, ocean, or river.
Also, international airports are legally borders...
Look, cards on the table, shit IS scary. We've got an intelligence apparatus that has every message every one of us has ever sent electronically, and probably microphone data from every Internet connected device we've ever been in earshot of, so organizing something a little more potent has to happen nearly spontaneously. You're dreaming if you think our operatives (or cops for that matter) are above just throwing a bag over your head, breaking your legs and throwing you down a mineshaft. Those intelligence agencies, for most of a century, have been spearheaded by the kind of people that sponsored violent right wing reactionary movements around the world to depose peaceful communist/leftist regimes you've maybe never heard of. They'd gladly take this over someone even as far left as Sanders.
Half the country still thinks that everything happening is perfectly cool and normal and totally how a republic works. A lot of the people in power still aren't convinced that Trump won't wake up one day and just be normal; they come to each new day of horrors completely shocked and surprised that he continued to be what he said he would, and to suggest that we should maybe do something about that is scandalous to them. Those two things together mean that the meaningful support is not great. Being a lone gunman is unlikely to change much, given that MAGA is a movement, and others around Trump- the people who hand him the EOs, and the billionaires who sponsor them- will remain. Being an armed resistance is effectively a death sentence, and nobody's quite ready to sign up for that, at least until it's absolutely clear that the alternative to fighting is just as bad. If I go rogue and catch a bullet, nobody's going to take care of my family, they're going to be homeless until RFK sends them off to a camp. Plus, as others have mentioned, it's pretty goddamn difficult to organize mass protests in DC when everyone who feels like you do is living dollar store hot dog to dollar store hot dog and DC is further from you than Moscow is from London.
For as long as I've been alive, the consistent message to the American people has been that help is not coming. The cops will gladly form a task force to come shoot your grandma in her living room, but routinely have argued that they have no duty to protect you. When the BLM protests were happening, a bunch of my coworkers cheered and giggled at videos of cops doing drive by pepper spraying of people who were just walking, and derided that dude (I think it was in Seattle?) who returned fire when the cops shot at him first. When the great recession happened, our government spent a trillion dollars bailing out banks instead of people. If you need assistance, you're ruthlessly scrutinized and continuously presumed to be a criminal or a parasite, only to be given not nearly enough at the end of it. Not only that, but we've even been attacking the helpers. We've spent decades eroding the ability to join a union, eroding the efficacy of unions, fighting and propagandizing against them at every turn (it doesn't help that I've had my fair share of experience with worthless unions where the rep wouldn't even return your calls. I know more people who've had experience with weak ass unions than people who've had experience with unions that are prepared to bury your boss under a sports stadium). We're shutting down churches that house the homeless, arresting people who try to feed them, and our authorities have the goddamn audacity to frame that and bulldozing encampments as acts of "compassion" because to not make the homeless miserable is to enable them. Every one fundamentally understands that help is not coming, we must help ourselves, and this is a really, really, really big job for an individual.
So, yeah, I'd say I'm pretty goddamn scared and I feel rational to be so.
The only thing that makes real sense, imo, is to start laying the groundwork for cold balkanization. It will break the federal government's power, finally allow needed social, legal, and economic changes, and hopefully can be achieved without much bloodshed.
Hard to get people to want tol shoot their family members
If my grandparents don't get their social security check its gonna be hard to make me not want to shoot someone
Some one call the menedez bros
It takes guts and strength. In the mass of population, this is found in people who have nothing to lose. Today, you always have something to lose. It's called comfort. If you don't have comfort, someone's pressuring you in one way or another, and you don't have strength to rebel. You can't. Literally.
If you have comfort, why would you rebel at all.
Then, anything goes, no matter how offended you are.
The stupidest win because of fear. They are not inherently stupid, they just make the stupid choice. Making a stupid choice doesn't make you stupid forever (except in the US).
More accurately, choices founded on ignorance are easier to make than choices founded on active thought.
violent rebellion is almost always a lost cause effort. It's the thing you go to when literally everything around you is burning down and you're going to die already.
Agree, I think it's kind of what I mean, or maybe I misinterpret your point ?
Last non violent rebellions, like the HK yellow umbrella, or the yellow jackets in France, have always been met with violence, whether political, or physical. Prison, disappearance, chopped arms, punctured eyes etc
Revolt? Americans proved that they would rather let the country burn under a fascist psychopath than oppose him and vote for an imperfect alternative. Americans get what they deserve, even the left went full toxic American this election, they can’t unify to oppose shit.
The American leftists are currently surrounded by the fire and wreckage of their future while going “take that democrats”
even the left went full toxic American this election, they can’t unify to oppose shit.
based
Our population largely would willingly choose a long, slow boil in a pot over a sudden change to their way of life.
The comforts that come with living in the wealthiest land in the world are more than addicting, they're dangerous to a society that's still under threat of being exploited by men with designs on power and control. It's so easy to leverage a comfortable population. An uncomfortable population is more likely to move, to get up and change something or resist a new order.
So our best hope right now is that things move fast enough to make enough people uncomfortable that our population starts talking in terms of "general strikes" and other forms of protest that will shut the country down long enough to purge the oligarchs either by sending them off or lopping off their heads.
And as weird as it sounds to say in the year 2025, yes I am on board for a revolution with guillotines at this point. When a ruler harms or kills many people for personal gain, they have forfeited their lives and have forgotten that we want rulers who serve us, not kings who crush us.
Chill. America will be just fine. Russia and China are falling apart. America is always in a state of strife which make us great.
Bro isnt this why you have a second amendment?
But if Americans revolt, they’ll miss the next season of the great British bake off. They can’t risk it.
The ones passionate about guns are the same uneducated ones sucking on the propaganda tit. They're just starting to get inklings that it might have been a bad idea, unfortunately most of them will stick their fingers in their ears and say it'll all be just fine.
IMO 70:30 we won't revolt, the silent majority doesn't like it, but just accepts the Nazi overtake.
Yes it is. But unless YOU personally are willing to risk death, then it means little. The magas seem reasonably content at the moment. And progressives aren't willing to give up the comforts of life either. Nor are they actually interested in getting their hands dirty by running for any office either. They mostly prefer to whinge on line rather than do much beyond complaints and yard signs.
If and when people are homeless and starving and believe they have no other alternative, then they might pick up a gun. But that point in time isn't here yet.
And progressives aren’t willing to give up the comforts of life either.
they're too busy yapping on lemmy about how some shit fuck stuff happened and now the sky is falling to actually do anything about it.
Yes. But the Dems decided that was bad and convinced most of their demographic to disarm themselves.
So now 90% of the guns are in the hands of the fascists.
Statistics don't support that notion especially considering the typical demographics of the fastest growing groups of new gun owners being dominanted by POC. Its just that violence without coordination and organization will be called terrorism and they may just kill you on the spot for that regardless. See Willem Von Spronsen and Luigi Mangione.
purposeful education sabotage and propaganda is why they don't rise up
Orange pig could shoot someone and rape them lawfully on main street and no one would bat an eye. That's the law for rich assholes.
It will have to get a lot worse domestically before this happens
Revolutions don't happen because there's too much suffering. Revolutions happen when people think there's no other way to force change, and when they think they can win.
It will get worse domestically. But this will not contribute to any uprising. In fact, it very likely will make it harder.
If you look at the French revolution, sure, there was suffering.
But look at who took over when the revolution had taken the heads of the monarchy. Was it the peasants who had waved pitchforks? Was it bollocks. It was a bunch of nobles who were sick of their lot under the old regime.
Revolutions happen when wannabe new leaders instigate them. Hordes of angry people are a force to be reckoned with, but without leaders they ain't organising shit. They're a tool for takeovers.
May I ask,what would be that thing? Because its seems like your all well over due for a bit of a revolution
over due for a bit of a revolution
Ohh indeed.
Here's the playfield:
We have cities full of poorly armed people who are on the edge of readiness. Then, we have thousands of miles of rural country with a sparse number of well-armed people who are quite happy with the turn of events.
Nearly all news coverage is now directly/indirectly state-controlled. Nearly all social media coverage is directly/indirectly state-controlled.
We're seeing protests come up around government buildings, but it's barely a pittance.
The people who would need to start the coup are poorly armed and largely reluctant to be violent; they're also not ready to give their lives for the cause. The people who are against any form of coup are well-armed and would LOVE to go in guns blazing.
The inklings of resistance are present. They'd need someone to organize and lead them,
Another concern I have is, historically, you have a coup, the military is called in to take it out, they refuse, and a new government is installed with their blessing. What happens when, instead of the military getting called in and refusing, the old government hires private industry to put guns on drones and starts murderbotting protestors? Tech isn't like it used to be. They don't need to get their hands directly dirty anymore or risk any of their own lives.
I'm not certain you could have a revolution against well funded oligarchs dug into a country.
I was told this is what all the guns are for?
Which is often advocated as a reason by conservatives who are absolutely delighted in dictatorship with their favorite God King, so have no reason to use it. It's been the blue states who've advocated more strongly in favor of gun control.
I wonder how police will respond when groups start arming themselves.
So many Americans have taken the oath of defending the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. They should all be on their way to the White House to actually follow this oath.
I'm a vet. I'm unsure why the DoD hasn't put a stop to this yet. There have been clear violations of this oath by elected officials. At the very least, letting Elmo wreck shit.
We have a problem though. The retired boomer vets, and some younger ones, voted for this. Conservatives tend to be the ones that raise their hands. They seem to have forgotten the oath and think that all of this is A OK. They've been guzzling the kool aid. Hell, my base still shows Faux "News" at the base hospital on some TVs. Even though a base commander banned news channels during COVID.
Those of us that do recognize this as a violation of the constitution do not number enough to do anything. Rising up involves getting rid of the entire GOP, plus multiple billionaires, multiple media moguls, SCOTUS, lower court appointees, appointees of many other government agencies, and on and on. It isn't something even a couple thousand can accomplish. We saw this with the attempted coup on J6.
What we're doing is making sure we're armed enough to defend ourselves in case of a civil war, or violence from the lunatics who still think this is all fine and good while we scream towards fascism. I hate this. I wish I could go do something. With every fiber of my being I do. My nervous system is fucked. I can barely leave the house many days. Especially in the winter when the cold shoots pain and fatigue through the roof. I can defend my own, probably my own neighborhood if it came to it. That's about the extent for me.
I live in a place with a bunch of these nut bags as it is too. There is a crazy trump church in my town with heavy ties to a christian nationalists extremist group. It's the largest church in the small town. Those people concern me. There is a crazy guy 2 houses down from me that thinks the local base dropped COVID on us with the tankers. I think I broke the gerbal wheel in his brain when I told him I've seen them inside and out and there isn't anywhere to even put a "bag o covid". We had a major wildfire hit and he blamed the firefighters for not flying in heavy smoke, at night and in super high winds. We're talking 70mph+ gusts and 45 sustained. There are some that still have trump/pence signs up. That's the type of crap I'm working with. Many are vets as well.
I get how it looks from the outside. We've been claiming that our firearms are for exactly what is happening. Thing is, those that support this. Those that voted for this, have the vast majority of firearms in this country. The last statistic I saw was from 2022 and republican firearm owners numbered nearly 2x democratic owners. That didn't even count the amount of firearms owned. That percentage is the same for individuals who live in a home where firearms are present. The left has slowly been arming up due to increased violence from the right against the left, but we're in no position to rise up.
If the right does end up realizing that they fucked up and need to finally rise up with the left, then you'll see it at a local level first. Other countries poke fun at us for not taking vacations because we don't have the days or money to do so. Yet they expect us to travel across country, with absolutely no guarantee others will be there, to maybe get a shot off at 1 person? It's over 2500 miles for me to get across the country. That'd take me at least a week and a half. I wouldn't even be able to do that solo due to the medical issues. People can't afford to do that. So the local level would be the target. Local congressmen (most of whom live in DC over half the year as it is). Local senators. State capitals, provided they're red states and are following suit with the fed govts.
This got long, I'm sorry for that, but this is a much more complicated issue. I seriously don't think people realize just how fucking far it is to get to DC. Just how useless it would be without some serious backing by the right and the military, or at least enough of the military that remembers their oath and don't fire on us. That combo could hold off the cops, but remember as well. We're dealing with police who are militarized now. They've been eating up old military equipment for at least a decade now. Some even have old APCs. They have no qualms over shooting everything all the way down to your dog just because it looked at them funny.
If nothing else, there have been countless Secret Service agents and military personnel around figures like Trump and Musk - every single one of them who had the opportunity to take the shot but chose not to, has violated their oath, and are complicit in this country's downfall.
Can’t do shit when tens of millions of citizens would go batshit insane if anything forceful was done against this new breed of Nazis.
I'm confused... Who are you talking about? What oath? Are... Are we talking about our mandatory "pledge of allegiance" we indoctrinate kids with?
You people can't be real...
The oath to defend the Constitution applies to most federal workers, the military, and (I think!) law enforcement.
https://bensguide.gpo.gov/j-oath-office
https://www.army.mil/values/oath.html
https://police-brutality.usattorneys.com/do-police-swear-an-oath-to-the-constitution/
Who would have thunk that the Americans claiming - school shooting after school shooting - that they cannot ban guns because they need them in case the government turns evil on the people are the same Americans that cheer at a Nazi saluting oligarchic quasi-president and a moronic manchild puppet president while democracy is demolished and rights, especially of women, queer people and immigrants, are taken away.
Greetings from Germany, we've been there before and we're starting to take the same path again currently as politicians of the far and the not so far right are taking the shitshow we're witnessing in the US as an example and instruction manual to push their own agenda here. Not trying to say it's America's fault, it's just that we've all not been conscious enough about the developments, and America honestly stumbled more blindly into fascism than I ever thought was possible. We all need to fucking get our asses up and do something. At least in Germany it's not too late yet. In case any fellow German here reads this: GO VOTE ON SUNDAY.
Germany is so far up Israels ass in supporting a genocide and demonising, cancelling and straight up arresting leftist/artists/intellectuals/Muslims/Arabs you're in no position to talk frankly.
What the hell are you talking about? Who is that "you" that is in no position to talk? You don't know anything about my view of Germany's position towards Israel.
I also feel like you have no clue about German politics. It's the far right AfD that acts as the big defender of the Jews currently and you can read above what I think about them. At the same time, we have a historic responsibility towards the Jews that is not as simple as you probably think it is. And there are lots of high ranked politicians, including our foreign minister, who speak very critically of Israel's policies and actions.
That being said, none of this has anything to do with my initial statement. Or are you one of those people who voted for Trump because the evil Democrats supported Israel? In that case I think it is you who should be silent now.
And don’t ONLY vote, make your voices heard in other ways as well!
Yes! Protest, join a democratic party, talk about politics to your friends and colleagues, be vocal on social media, etc.
The reason we can't ban guns has to do with the 2nd Amendment, it guarantees gun ownership.
There is a process to change the Constitution, but at this point it's an impossibility given the political makeup of the country.
You start by getting 290 votes in the House, which is currently split 218 Republicans, 215 Democrats, 2 vacancies.
The majority is decided by 218 votes. So to start the Amendment process, you'd need all 215 Democrats (unlikely) and 75 Republicans (who are universally opposed.)
Assuming you get that, it then goes to the Senate which is split 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats, and 2 Independent. Since everything in the Senate starts with a filibuster, you need 60 votes to break that, and the Democrats are 13 votes shy of that.
If they managed to get those 13 votes to get past the filibuster, they still need +7 more to pass the Amendment.
If, by some miracle, all three of those votes happened, then it goes to the states for ratification and you need 38/50 states to approve.
In 2024, Trump won 31 states, Harris only 19. So you'd need all 19 Harris states (unlikely) plus 19 Trump states (even more unlikely).
Flip these numbers around and you'll see why we similarly can't get amendments on conservative issues.
The reason we can’t ban guns has to do with the 2nd Amendment, it guarantees gun ownership.
That’s questionable, and has been hotly debated for a long time.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It’s an entirely reasonable interpretation that this protects militias and not individual gun ownership.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50501
they are protesting literally Nationwide in front of every Capital in every state.
where can i see more media of the protests
you can just type 50501 protests into YouTube or any search engine and see the most recent coverage, here are a couple examples from a few days ago:
No wonder there is nothing on the Dutch news about this, the name is shit
haha, I had the same thought. and completely agree! it is a terrible name to remember and catch on.
Okay I'll be blunt here: This is nothing and if this is Americans' idea of resisting then y'all are never going to beat fascism. Historians will look at this period and say there was very little popular resistance to Trump's regime.
I want you to understand what it is you're talking about when you say things like this:
You are asking for what it's the equivalent of all of Europe revolting against leadership that never leaves Prague.
America is really fucking big. I live in Seattle. I have been protesting. But my state officials are already more or less on my side
For me to protest in a way that actually causes a problem for the people in power I would need to drive no less than 41 hours if I didn't sleep. Realistically it's 3-4 days each way. Or hundreds of dollars in airfare or train tickets.
And of course I'd be fired for missing work.
I'm pissed as any American but what the fuck am I supposed to do? Asking America to revolt isn't like asking England or France or Belgium. Our leaders are in a proverbial ivory tower and we've been stripped of any ability to effect change through anything but a national strike, which has not been successfully organized, largely due to the scale required.
We have 341m people on 10M km² of land. Compare that to somewhere like Germany with 84m people on 357k km²
It's a much easier proposition getting 10% of Germans to their capital than getting 10% of Americans to ours
It's pathetic.
It’s still cold yet. Just wait til summer.
It's easy to judge from the sidelines. We were suffering well before this guy was sworn in... Most of us are just trying to survive right now. We're eating into our savings and retirements, and/or getting second/third jobs, and/or paying off medical bills. We're just trying to get by and support our loved ones and friends after massive spikes in our cost of living, our housing costs, and out of control inflation.
You're welcome to come raise some hell outside the capital if you can afford that trip, though. No need to wait for others and scoff - you do it. Be the change you want to see. And if you think it's too expensive and far... Welcome to the same boat most of us are in here in America.
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Street protests are one of several necessary activities for a change movement. They can help build awareness and let off some steam, but need considerable mass to affect change on their own.
More change happens when paired with organised political action, strikes, obstruction, PR and ofc violence/terror.
The trick is to coordinate the sides towards the goal. Only street protests or only terror won't do anything, but pulling together you did get 8 hour workdays,or more recently grain import regulations (in Poland).
Then again, a million protesters over three months, including transport striking and uncoordinated violence, did not affect the French pension age.
Alabama More than 200 protesters gathered outside Alabama's Statehouse
Alaska An estimated 123 people gathered outside Alaska's capitol building
Arkansas Approximately 200 protesters gathered on the outside Arkansas's capital
California During the February 5 protest, over 1,000 protesters gathered near the west steps of California's capitol building
Florida Around 300 protesters gathered outside the Florida State Capitol
...I mean seriously?
Denver had 4,000, Boston had a thousand, over 50 states(even your red ones), you have tens of thousands of people taking part in these protests simultaneously across the Nation.
and this is only one of the many protests going on.
this single protest is getting tens of thousands of people while other protests are happening.
so yes.
seriously.
That is fantastic and it is factor of a trillion better than no protests.
Good
Look here Europe. I don't know how well y'all understand the states, but it's unfathomably large. People in the big cities can definitely organize and revolt. But, against who?
The power is concentrated in Washington DC. It's in an extremely inconvenient location to get to, and I'm starting to understand why.
The last person who was able to amass a large enough following to organize people and march all the damn way to Washington DC was assassinated by the FBI - more specifically J. Edgar Hoover, one of the OG Incel MAGATs. The last president that was able to advocate for the same rights was assassinated by the same group.
Malcom X could see that the only way the US government would change was through speaking the language it knew, but he, too, was taken out by the FBI.
The billionaires in power speak the same language. They wear children as meat shields. They spark violent rhetoric. They won't hesitate to take out a figurehead before he becomes too powerful like King, JFK, and Malcom X.
Meanwhile, trump's army of inbred rednecks, drunk karens and incels managed to storm the capital, and get away with it, while being livestreamed TO THE WORLD. The more i see messages like this the more i feel disappointed with americans. Too fat and diabetic to break into a sweat I see.
Concur - I don’t think a lot of people outside of the US and Canada truly grasp how large the landmass is. It would take me 3 days to drive to DC and over a week by train. I’m sure as shit not getting on an airplane right now… and even if I did, they’re not letting me bring any guns.
Hoover is an incel now? What
I am too high for this
To him being an incel, he never married or dated publicly. Complained about women and considered them lesser. Used the sexual acts of others to blackmail others while living with another man that was his co-director of the FBI. His mother called him weak and lived with Hoover her whole life. Argued women were sluts and anyone that made comment on his sexuality was usually attacked viciously.
Also
He thought it was cute that people were naming their homeless encampments after him.He thought the FBI was wasted on mafia and killers and should focus on communists and blacks as the country should be a white Christian nationalist state.
He, apparently was so good at stealing and wiretapping that he had blackmail on pretty much everyone down to Nixon.
Dude was fucked up
That's no reason not to try. Try while you can. Get organised. Use existing groups and band together, safety in numbers. How about the occupy wall St people? Trade unions? I think people are kind of in disbelief about what's going on, but this is happening fast and it seems like there's so little response.
If the government is this centralized that makes it easy to revolt. Just topple the state government and make your own rules. Then the "power" has to first get into their cars and drive all the way to you.
Revolutions moetly dont start in the populated areas where the government has many of it goons. They start in the thinly populated areas, where it is easy to seize local control.
Guess who those thinly populated areas voted for...
Also, "just topple the state governments" as if most US states aren't larger + more dispersed than many European countries. And state (and sometimes local) police have access to second hand military equipment.
Then even putting that aside, the US interstate system was quite literally designed to expedite military logistics. The Federal government could have tanks rolling down the streets of any major city in single-digit hours.
However, the size of the country is a double edged sword. Locking down areas outside of populated cities would take a lot of sustained resources. Combine that with the sheer volume of firearms in the hands of private citizens and you have a recipe for festering unrest. Actual violent resistance in the US would be a different beast from what you see in other countries.
Yess, this is the way, try to get your state creating an ultimatum and if conditions are not met, leave the unity of states and get independent.
The worker should just all stop working at the same time and demand politicians to work for workers and not for billionaires to start working again..
This is the real solution.
Dr. King even stated as much.
If everyone said "enough, we've endured enough" and stopped letting the grinder do its thing, change would occur.
I can guarantee that it would be met with violence too, it has been met with violence. The only thing worse than union labor, is no labor.
Mario Savio, another activist in the 60s, revealed to have been illegally spied on by the FBI in 1999 ended one of his speeches with this: "There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels ... upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!"
noo but then they might lose out on a bit of money now instead of live in a nazi state and fear for their life for years!
Guess the "land of the free" isn't so free after all.
because the police will murder us
because the family of the police will murder us
because the friends of the police will murder us
This. You know all the idiots in US government? Now imagine they have a gang and they're all armed and legally allowed to kill you because you're a disturbance to the peace or didn't like something you did.
When we protest here it's called a riot and they bring out the guns looking for an excuse to bring out the bigger guns if we resist.
And they won’t if you don’t?
Or are you a straight American born white male confident they can blend in and avoid being targeted?
sounds like a skill issue
180 no scope the federal gubmint.
Sounds like Russia.
I think there’s still a case to make that police should worry about the current landscape.
A large proportion of the Jan 6 crowd were violent offenders even beforehand. The more they’re emboldened by Trump, the more of them there are. This even lead to that Nazi rally that the local community had to chase off; and that psycho in NH that had a shootout with police and wounded a deputy.
These people stay at home when they recognize their hate isn’t appreciated, and don’t think a president will pardon them. For many in law enforcement, it’s not if, but when.
We went to one. About a thousand people stood around not talking to each other and left. It was fascinating. And disheartening.
You read anxiety where it doesn’t exist, not in the way you think it does.
Standing in a street isn’t going to cut it. You can stand anywhere. That is not the motion that is required.
And if you think the landscape hasn’t changed this go: oh you sweet summer child.
American protests are the dumbest shit.
A bunch of people thinking they have done something productive because they held up a sign until their arms got tired after an hour and joined a mailing list that they might toss $5 to.
It'd be more productive to host a block party where at least everyone gets fed.There was one in Orlando recently where they (80 people) just protested nothing and everything all at once and then they just packed up talking about how good that was.
At best it was just an excuse to go to the park.People are comfortable even when they stress that they aren't and don't want to do anything more than tell people to stop being meanies like it does something. And are scared of what happens when we actually push back against bullies cause we haven't for decades.
Strikes work, when honored, because you’re withholding a valuable resource. In fact you’re withholding the capacity for corporate to make money. It’s a bad look for something like a hospital because people are now keenly aware of how staffing impacts the emergency room and their elective surgery post op care. Unfortunately, this act is strangled by COL and non-livable wages.
That said, the landscape has changed. The recent Utah legislation aside, look at Amazon in December. Strikes happened because corporate refused to acknowledge the union’s existence. You can vote to enter a union, which is a beautiful thing, the solidarity required alone is admirable, but if everyone ignores your existence you get Amazon in December 2024. Idk how that one ended. Probably attrition and nothing good.
Providence Health System of Oregon did the same. They technically acknowledged the nurse’s union, came to the table each negation session, but did nothing, ignored the nurses and their negotiators and left them without a contract for a year. So, all of Providence went on strike. The doctors agreed that this was egregious behavior on the part of Providence Health System, and cannot do much at work without their nurses anyway, so they added impact by joining the nurse’s strike. Simultaneous, state wide. Not as little coverage as Luigi, but not much coverage news wise. Why? This scares corporate. (Wage wise, west coast COL i is s higher and nurses wages are higher there, starting at $1650/wk days and $1900/wk nocs for a no experience nurse. This cost jumps to $7k/wk per nurse for union busting contracts. A hospital will pay this difference rather than agree to a 6-10% raise or the reintroduction of a separate sick time bank in addition to vacation time. Never underestimate the power of corporate spite.) Last check after a month of mutual attrition things aren’t great.
All of that novel aside, its incredibly naive to think it can be as simple and easy as standing in a street on your day off. For ONE day. If it were, that action would be completed already.
Providence stood spitefully by and watched for 30 days, 30days of what had to be well over a thousand contract nurses at $7k/wk each, loss off their millions on hospital and surgery money, loss of the lodestone worker that both they and doctors can do little without, 30 days of this before acknowledging a crappy negotiation they refused to acknowledge for over a year.
And that is ONE corporate entity in ONE state.
This administration is way worse. And what are you withholding from them by standing in a street for one day on your day off?
Think bigger and better or nothing will happen.
How Canadians have been feeling lately from the continuous stream of insults and threats...
They should have never rebuilt it and got rid of the president as a thing, it's a fucking lightning rod position for people trying to centralize as much power as they can under an authoritarian hierarchy
It was the British under George Cockburn who captured Washington.
You mean from the orange man? Dude he's been shitting on Americans for years.
I don't think modern American political discourse is capable of the old style of revolt on a large scale. Old political movements were based on policy and rhetoric. Media has taken the place of rhetoric, and the majority of media serves to push toward one party or another rather than a real position on anything. Much of that media is based around the idea of negative partisanship (Vote for us because we aren't Them.) rather than policy because there is so little policy space to play in when the choice is Right vs More Right. That is enough to get people to pick up a ballot, but generally not a weapon, when all of the institutional power has been focused on convincing people to do anything but. Team Red is (slightly ironically) anti-communist when it bothers to pretend to have an ideology. Team Blue is usually just anti-Team Red, which is why they can barely manage to get some semblance of support. And there is essentially no other option because of the voting system and the memories of the Cold War keep anything collectivist at bay for the time being. When you combine 'Vote for change, don't fight for it,' and 'Your options are An Unpolished Turd Promising You A Better Tomorrow (falsely) or A Polished Turd Promising You More of What You Got Yesterday (Truthfully),' you get what you see now.
Oh shit, we cussin out the liberal Americans again? Fuck yeah, deal me in, that shit’s cathartic as fuck
I love that we're starting arguments against one another. This is going to make it extra easy for Trump to polarize more and more people.
Lemmy has like, what, twelve conservatives on it? Who do you people think you're insulting here?
That is a great point! Turn your flags to show others that they are not alone!
kind of sucks the people we got now gathered more votes than the alternative, what is important is that the electorate witness what a shit choice they made
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind some drastic changes. Just things are never straight forward or simple. Putin would love to see us collapse inward. I think one of the biggest mistakes america ever made wasn't just citizens united but how cheap it is overall to buy our government. Obviously, government shouldn't be for sale at all but years of lobbiest and weak political candidates selling out made our politicians dirt cheap and I'm always surprised to see what it cost to buy in.
Like I look at elon musk, he spent what, $100,000,000? He makes that like what, every 3 hours? Now he gets unfettered access to everything, jesus.
We need to start somewhere. I've seen enough protests to know they haven't peaked yet. I think a general strike could really put some fear in these capitalists hearts. End of the day, though, we can't worry about putin, and that sucks for the rest of the world but man we are somehow taking a beating. Not to overshadow what Ukraine is going through.
Is this to argue that there shouldn't be any revolts?
No, it's just a joke about Russians making our politics so toxic they must be upset Americans aren't tearing it down for them already.
What is going on guys I live in California I’m a republican , I’m not starving I have an average job, my wife stays home with the kids what the fuck are you guys smoking so I avoid that strain? Hey my new 70 inch TV is here from Amazon and how I’m goin to mount it is the only problem I have. GG.
"These problems haven't affected me yet, so I'm not seeing any effects."
I’m being honest from what I have been consuming it shows Trump exposing corruption with our tax dollars. I do see he back slid on no armed conflicts he seems to be using that threat as more than a bargaining chip and it isn’t all bluffing. But all in all with hey way immigration is being handled for he most part I’m sure there is fuckery going on on a small scale as far as abuse goes but that’s just based on what I can see news wise. Mainstream media will still roast Trump on any little thing he does and they are coming up with some very weak attacks.
So…. because you’re safe in your little anecdotal bubble, everyone else is fine?
This is the most perfectly illustrated example of “I got mine!!” that I’ve ever seen.
Wait, I remember this kid. What video was he from again?
