Gen Z commit to ‘canceling out’ their MAGA parents votes in new TikTok trend

Bitch that's called voting.

God all these TikTok trends are so fucking dumb. I guess if it sways votes to Harris that's good, but what a sorry state of affairs we have that there are people out there that need to be drip-fed content in order to do their civic responsibility and stop fucking fascism.

I can’t really see how this is different from anything except that it is an online movement. There have always been slogans, campaigns, and movements to get people motivated to vote. This particular movement is helpful to motivate people who might feel that their vote isn’t significant, as it helps them to think of it in concrete terms as a chess move against their MAGA loved one. I don’t see why that is so stupid. It seems like hating it is more of a knee-jerk reaction against people who use TikTok. While I dislike TikTok myself, this seems like one of the weakest examples of why it’s bad.
- I think people are taking issue with calling this act of normal voting "a TikTok trend" as if TikTok deserves the credit for inspiring the youngsters. It would be better if the news media used platform-agnostic terms with social media to avoid promoting their brands. "Young Americans use social media to organize voters" etc
If TikTok gets more people voting blue, I 100% welcome the trend. It doesn't matter to me if people vote blue for clout, just as long as they're voting
- I agree, but it should also be something people do because they care about doing the right thing and value democracy, irrespective of what social media tells them to do.
I agree that it's both sad and good. But really whatever gets him out. They may try and use it later and it will look sad and tired. But at least it puts it in the Zeitgeist.
I don't care if people are have to be led there with a lollipop and a soda if it gets people voting. Civic duty is important, but people need encouragement.

If people are participating in the election, great. American voter turn out is historically dogshit.

Imagine knowing what Gen Z knows about who Trump really is and watching your parents blindly vote for that.

We are absolutely failing our children to the point where they are inheriting the climate disaster, WW3, and might not even be afforded a democracy to allow them to correct our mistakes. This is their time and i hope they see it.

working at a community college, i noticed most young people are disinterested in politics because it's always just been a bunch of crusty old out of touch white men. which, tbh is mostly true. so kids never even bothered

biden dropping out and kamala taking his place was 1000000% the best thing that could have happened, because now these kids are suddenly paying attention and seeing what a fucking wrong choice trump is
- I've noticed the same. When Biden was still in, support for him was of the "grim determination" variety. But as soon as he bowed out, it shifted to practically jubilant support for Harris.
  
  So glad to see that shift.
Gen X'er here and an older one at that.

My two idiot older brothers, one of whom is an Oathbreaker... Keeper...what the fuck ever, are voting for that fucking asshole.

A lot of my fellow classmates of my highschool graduating class are also voting for him. I went to the same school, came from the same town had a lot of the same experiences. How the living ever fuck are they so bamboozled?

It's absolute insanity and it is not going to end here.
- Gen 'Xer here too. Most, if not all of my social circle are voting for Trump too. I am mirroring you in saying that I also shared the same life experience as them. What I'm noticing with all social media which is a major part of all our lives is that its a giant echo camber for both sides. Here on lemmy and reddit (yes I know, but I still check in there) we are all leaning left and denouncing him. Meanwhile on the Meta and Twitter I see everyone clamoring about him bring their savior and how evil and wretched Harris and the libs are. Both sides are surprised how close this race is. I see the media profiting on all this chaos and nonsense. We need to fight to get the media out of the control of all these oligarchs, be-it US or foreign interference centers. I think and hope that more and more people are realizing this and this is going to be the start of class warfare. Sad thing is they got all us have-nots battling each other instead of them. So hard to talk with the cultists and veer them away from the Kool aid going around. It's sad and it's going to get dark one way or another.
  
  Anyway preach on and don't give up.
- Engagement optimized social media.
- I’m curious: does it break down at all by socioeconomic status? Are you doing okay and your brothers doing shit?

My favorite was one where a girl was like "On my way to cancel out my Republican sister's vote" and then after it went viral posted another video saying "Jk, we both voted for Kamala. We would never support someone who's trying to take away our rights"

Just waiting (carefully, on another continent) for the TikTok videos of Trump supporters, with weapon in hand, who are on their way to 'cancel' the 'stolen' election...

I mean... how fucked up is the political climate in the US?

how fucked up is the political climate in the US?

Well the right has been brainwashed over the course of decades to believe "tHe LiBruLs aRe GoNnA tAKe aWaY mUh FrEeDuMs," and coupled with the Trump/MAGA cult behavior has only exacerbated their idiocy to the point any and every one of them feels they have nothing to lose (which they don't, many have nothing) by standing in the way of democracy.

American politics has long been just viewed as if rooting for a favorite sports team, "My team is the best and everybody else is my rival!" where people don't even care that their team sucks, they'll continue to stand behind them because that's their team. Many vote against their own interests because of that, and the MAGA cult is the worst case it's been in a very long time.

Send MAGA back to the Stone Age where it belongs.

i'd venture a guess that stone age cavemen didn't give a rat's ass where anyone took a shit like MAGAs do

but they did abuse the women. so there's that
- but they did abuse the women
  
  More matriarchal societies existed in primitive cultures than you'll likely learn about in grade school.
  
  The misogynist violence is not a consequence of human nature but a legacy of our engineered social system.
MAGA needs to be pulverized under heel and relegated to elsewhere in the carbon cycle.

I'm so happy to see this that I'm willing to ignore the misused "POV".

It's more the new usage at this point.

POV we're getting old 😭
- No, the children are wrong. Even if they do it ironically.

"YoUnG pEoPlE dOn'T vOtE" - people who want to continue to ignore the concerns of young people.

The Boomers got the voting age lowered to 18 because they were marching every day.

People notice action and ignore inaction. Not doing anything has never been a winning strategy.
- Yeah, if you want to be taken seriously vote. Even if it’s just in the primaries. Even if you show up to hsnd in a blank ballot. But they are only looking at the demographics and voting patterns of voters. They may try to get non voters involved but many efforts fail there and they don’t know what the mass of non voters actually want.
  
  As a millennial who’s never missed a congressional election I want young people with me demanding that primaries all occur on Super Tuesday and that universal healthcare be on the table. I want to give the Dems the opportunity to actually show their true colors.
As long as they don’t vote you can continue to not cater to them
- And as long as you ignore that THEY'RE VOTING, you can continue to ignore their concerns like you want.

We'll see how it goes.

One of my initial fears regarding the initial hype phase of Kamala taking the candidacy was that the media hype would wear off and that we'd have a lot of no shows at the polls who only posted about it on their socials because it was trending. I don't really trust my generation or the zoomers to get out there and vote, but I hope I'm proven wrong.

If it helps, this Gen Xer (i.e. "me") is offsetting their remaining parent's vote. We were told growing up how decent we should be, yet when we actually took that to heart and did that our parents went off the reservation and lost their minds. There are a LOT of fractured families thanks to Trump & Faux Snuz, and I hope we can make the future worth all the trouble they've caused.
- We were told growing up how decent we should be
  
  This rings so true with me. I was raised in the church and I truly believed in what was taught about loving your neighbor, and caring for the less fortunate as my family and church taught.
  
  Then my senior year of high school my dad (a Deacon in the church) told me that he notices that I tend to make friends with broken people instead of friends that can help me out. And that's when the first cracks in religions hold on me started to appear.
  
  Today I'm the only one in the family I grew up in not voting for trump. I'm also the only one who gave up on church. My sister went even deeper by seeking out a fringe Baptist congregation that believes some really fucked up shit, and my brother followed in my dad's footsteps and became a Deacon. Last week my mom explained to me how it's the culture of the inner-cities that makes violence and crime so common. It isn't race, it's culture. She thinks she's being open-minded. And they all think they are good people. 'They'd do anything for you'... as long as you're part of the church - even then, don't ask too often.
  
  I'm ranting now, but damn, how is it so hard for people to just genuinely be good and helpful?
- I haven't seen my brother in four years since he came into my house dropping hard Rs everywhere.
  
  I outwardly pretend it doesn't bother me to have cut him out like that, but it really bothers me quite alot. I have young impressionable kids and refuse to encourage that kind of behavior around them.
  
  this is why I think of conservatives like Nazis. I hate them because of the betrayal from family. because of that, i will never trust a conservative again.
- Oh yeah I don't disagree about that. I'm the black sheep of my family in that regard. Even my Gen X siblings are Trumpers sadly.
  
  I was just more so pointing out that I wasn't entirely sure if the younger two generations were actually serious. I know how social media is. Someone posting about something is not the same as someone taking action so I get anxious about whether or not people will actually make good on their statements.
- yeah i would keel over in a dead faint if my little sis changed her mind last minute from orange to blue.
If it helps, this gen x’er is voting blue, but my boomer mom in a swing state is too!

My brother and I are two Harris votes against like 12 Trump votes. Feelsbadman

Now this is a TikTok trend I can totally get behind.

dont really like kids all that much but those younguns are real heroes

Do we have any evidence that they are actually voting and not just filming videos they hope will become popular without really going to vote?

It doesnt matter if they do. It influences other young people to vote Harris.
- My 21yo niece asked if I was voting Trump so she could cancel it.
  
  I said DO IT. No idea why she thought I would vote for a asshole but whatever gets her going.
Voting participation is public record. I don't know when it's published.
- Participation, yes. Who, hopefully never.

Beautiful.

Shit like this makes me hopeful and honestly that worries me. The universe is cruel.

This feels like a trauma response, haha. I'm right there with you.
The cruel thing is that this is the best humanity can manage and we burned all of our get out of jail free cards to get here.

Can't believe I didn't think about this becoming a trend sooner

What else can you expect from a tiktoker.

I see plenty of gen z being influenced by toxic nonsense on outlets like Youtube, as well as doing some of the influencing. I also know people from Gen Y, Gen X, and boomer age range that hate donnie with a burning passion and would vote for a potato over voting for donnie...

So the idea of framing this as just some generational thing seems kinda moot, at least in my experience. But for some reason, the notion that a set of people merely born between two sets of dates are a monolith is all too common...even as we reject similar framing for almost any other demographic measure...

I think it's important to note that although there is definitely a trend of young men being radicalized through the "manosphere," young women are so overwhelmingly progressive/liberal that gen z is still significantly more progressive/liberal overall than previous generations.
- I sure hope so, but I have a feeling that some cons are already working the long game on that, too. Like getting Youtube to push more extremist content to women. Or TikTok "influencers" slipping in the magabrained talking points in between the other content...
- I think it's also important to realize that outreach from Democrats to young people has been shit.

MSN hijack link

Oh? I've been seeing it more. Is there a way to know and get the right source? I kinda hate MSN.
- What @[email protected] said
  
  It does state the source of the article though (this one says The Independent UK), and you can click the 'jump to' icon to go the proper site-- but it won't be at the proper article, just the main page.
  
  But just in general-- If my query returns a lot of MSN hijack links, I just go back and put -MSN in the search.
  
  Edit: screen of page
- Highlight the entire headline, and perform a search on it. Even if you can't discern the true source, there ought to be plenty of better sites to link to.
- Apparently the browser I use just doesnt work with MSN at all, so thats been the best way to know what's the wrong site at least.

cancel culture people cancel culture

All those people getting canceled who go on podcasts with 50m views and on top, they get a Netflix show etc. They are being canceled too hard.

Also treason I think being caught doing that also counts as canceled nowadays.

Gen Z cant vote for someone they want, so they're left voting against someone else instead.

I don't know why you're all celebrating this, it is horrible for democracy and will only lead to further disenfranchising if a generation of new voters arent being represented.

so will they be represented before Trump wins the election or after the concentration camps?

you're not going to change my mind on this, I already voted for Harris. I just want to see that dim little light in your head get really bright before it pops when you fully realize that your "3rd party votes can change the world" lies don't work anymore.

in a perfect democracy, your vote for a 3rd party candidate might make a difference. we are not in a perfect democracy. we are in a broken democracy, where the only option we have is to not become a compete fascist nation.
- so will they be represented before Trump wins the election or after the concentration camps?
  
  Does this ever stop? THE GEN Z VOTERS HERE ARE VOTING FOR HARRIS! But nothing, not the truth, not a goddamned thing on this planet will get between a centrist and an opportunity to deliver a sanctimonious lecture about how the slightest disappointment in the system is somehow ushering in Trump again.
  
  And before your lecture reflex kicks in a second time, I already voted for Harris. Not like that will stop you.
The US voting system is horrible for democracy. A two party system is inevitable the way it works. And with only two parties, it's inevitable that many aren't represented.
It doesn't matter who the candidates are, the system is fucked and needed substantial reform decades ago.

The only thing you can do as a voter is not elect the literal fascist maniac and hope for the best.
- Last time you didn’t have representation, you fought the British for it.
Gen Z cant vote for someone they want, so they’re left voting against someone else instead.

Gen-X here. I got some news for you...
It's horrible to democracy that someone ks trying to engage with any pieces of it that might be left?

"Just leave it guys, it's not worth it."

Fuck off
- Literally no one said that, didn’t even say don’t vote for Harris.
  
  Oh well can’t wait for all you right wingers to shut up in a few days time.
Then push for reform like ranked choice. That's how you're going to be able to vote for someone you want without also supporting the one that might end elections altogether. It's a shitty time. And there's 2 paths forward. Only one has the hope of moving towards the future you want.

I actually did the science and I can say with complete certainty that flouride is good for you and has no bad side effects.

Jk, I believe what I'm told.

You must have been dropped as an infant.
That is not only not right; it is not even wrong
- I'd argue that it's all true but I just brushed my teeth and am feeling very calm for some reason and can't be bothered

Implying the reality that your vote counts.

It'll never count if you don't even give it a chance. There have been a good number of examples where winners were determined by just a few hundred votes out of millions. There's no harm in trying to support the future you want, so even if you don't think it'll matter go vote anyway - you never know...
my vote counts more than yours.

assuming you failed to vote.

then again, if you did vote you'd be a hypocrite and a liar.