GOP threatened to sue over November ballot if Biden dropped out. Experts call that 'ridiculous'
GOP threatened to sue over November ballot if Biden dropped out. Experts call that 'ridiculous'
Even before President Joe Biden’s withdrawal from the 2024 presidential race, allies of former President Donald Trump floated the possibility of suing to block Democrats from having anyone other than Biden on the ballot in November.
Even before President Joe Biden’s long-speculated withdrawal from the 2024 presidential race, allies of former President Donald Trump floated the possibility of suing to block Democrats from having anyone other than Biden on the ballot in November.
But election administration and legal experts said the timing of Biden’s exit on Sunday makes it unlikely that any Republican ballot access challenges will succeed, with some calling the idea “ridiculous” and “frivolous.” Democrats are on safe legal ground as they identify a new standard-bearer, they say, because the party hasn’t officially chosen its nominee. That typically occurs with a vote of delegates at the party’s convention.
“It’s ridiculous for people to talk about ‘replacing Biden.’ He hasn’t been nominated yet,” said Richard Winger, a leading expert on state ballot access laws and the longtime editor of the “Ballot Access News” newsletter.
They absolutely have no legal basis, my only worry is that they have activists in SCOTUS which showed us multiple times that they don't care what the Constitution says.
Exactly.
It used to be the case that sane people with a modicum of understanding of our government/legal system, or even the ability to do a bit of research, they could just laugh this off.
But uh, nope, now we live in corrupt/activist Supreme Court era, which throws out decades of precedent and functionally invents new laws as it pleases.
What I love about Clarence Thomas is he is giving us the road map to oppressive systems we have to take down. He has observed the unspoken rules and has codified them into law with his rulings. When Clarence gets exorbitant gifts for his influence it's not because he's greedy, we'll it is, but it's also him saying, "these are the rules, I get rewarded because I have the seat of power."
Clarence is not a secret freedom fighter but he might as well be because he is shining a light and exposing the ugliness that is our judicial system.
Historically speaking, we Americans usually ignore what the SCOTUS says. Virginia was practically segregated into the early 1970s, for example, well over a decade after Brown v Board of Education.
That's the hilarious part of the SCOTUS. They kind of don't matter.
The response to an unjust SCOTUS is to ignore them. Like what are they actually gonna do about it?
There may be an issue with Ohio. The deadline for getting on the ballot the is like 2 days before the DNC, and we won't officially know who the nominee will be until after the convention.
GOP: but it was our only strategy!
Threatening to sue over spurious, trumped up claims has been a Trump strategy for half a century now.
They're sliding into Sovcit territory.
They already made it public that they will do everything to invalidate democrat votes and that they won't accept any outcome that isn't a Trump win.
It's going to be Jan 2021 but worse again.
Friendly reminder to check your voter registration. Many states are un-registering voters for dumb reasons.
Thankfully I'm in the clear where I live. Got some mail in ballets for a different election for everyone in my apartment. Just hoping that nobody tries to do like what was done last time and have republican mail people dump the mail in votes somewhere random. Luckily it wasn't anywhere near my neck of the woods, but I'm always worried it'll happen.
It's stupid enough that Ohio demands that the nominee be on the ballot before the convention and even they give a deadline after August.
You know as they say: if it looks ridiculous and sounds ridiculous, it's most likely the GOP.
If it walks like a moron, talks like a moron...
…yep, it’s the GOP.
The Supreme Court call that "compelling"
Right? I used to think it would be ridiculous for a former president to foment a violent insurrection of their own government and not be held accountable for their words and actions.
That’s a “Major Question” if nothing else.
Just like all of Trump’s election fraud cases (over 60 of them), this will be immediately thrown out as superfluous and/or for inability to provide any evidence.
Dems haven’t even held the convention to nominate yet, so GOP can keep cryin’ until November.
Given the bizzaro timeline we're in it would not surprise me to get a crazy outcome:
- GOP lawsuit wins, forcing the ballot to be Biden
- Biden wins the general election, immediately resigns and...
- Harris is the President.
What would be really hilarious is, I think that would allow her to serve two more 4 year terms after her 2025-2029 term ends because she would not have run as President the first time.
What would be really hilarious is, I think that would allow her to serve two more 4 year terms after her 2025-2029 term ends because she would not have run as President the first time.
That's incorrect. The 22nd amendment states: "no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once". So unless Biden would wait for at least two years before stepping down, Harris could only be elected for one more term.
Thanks for this. I was going to correct them, but didn't really wanna type out and reference why they were wrong. You are a champion.
That would also let the GOP pick the VP unless they lose control of the House. Not an ideal situation.
it's hilarious that they're proving in real time just how pants-shittingly scared of harris they are.
"keep the old man in!!! we don't want to go up against a younger woman whom we can't publicly criticize for not being white!"
... whom we can't stop ourselves from publicly criticizing for not being white!
FTFY
"DEI" is the new codeword for the "n-word" so they say it all day every day...
Imagine thinking you're being "smart" by not being openly racist, by being openly racist in your accusation that "this person couldn't possibly get here by their merits, they're here because of their skin color."
...yep still racist there little buddy...
Just play dumb and say "DEI? What does that mean", and they're guaranteed to say something racist just explaining it in their own words.
They’re already publicly criticizing her for not being white…
let's see how the bLaCkPpLbAd strategy pays off...
Supreme Court will show those experts who’s daddy
Given the current SCOTUS, it won't be the Republicans, unfortunately.
Ridiculous pretty much sums up the GOP
SCOTUS - Something, something, this is illegal however only when Democrats do it.
Maybe we can get a class action together for their lies and misinformation?
implying any court will do enough to send a major political party to it's right place at the dumpster of history
They should have been running on a platform instead of grievance politics. Then it wouldn't matter who they were running against.
Maybe don't have a platform where the only thing you do is shit on the other person and call them kindergarten level nicknames? What a bunch of snowflakes.
More idiocy from the idiot party.
You're welcome to try but I don't see how they have any standing to sue.
SCOTUS said standing isn't important anymore though.
The Supreme Kangaroo Court
Let them waste even more money.
Shows how terrible they are at their jobs.
Sadly, the Supreme Court has been ruling a lot of ridiculous things lately.
They don’t have to succeed. They simply have to stall.
This may well work for the repubs, though.
They want dictatorship, not representative-republic ( falsely-called "democracy" by us foolish peons ).
Legalism, which the christ they pretend to be aligned-with, repeatedly railed against, calling its devotees "Hypocrites!"..
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=hypocrite&version=AMP
I believe that in the gaslighting-about-being-aligned-with-christ republican territories .. they're going to get that result to happen..
Which only could have been prevented had the dems put Harris in the race months ago..
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Given where we are now, it seems obvious that you would let the delegates pick the candidate, but it's sort of strange that The People don't actually get any say in who the candidate is. Kamala will get the nomination from the ruling class alone. It's an option that could be used to circumvent the democratic process. Something to keep an eye on.
I think her hundred million pretty new dollars (so far) are a pretty clear indication that the people are behind her.
Yeah it's more the idea, the potential for abuse or use of this as a strategy.
Absolutely no doubt the Republicans will use this to their advantage at some point.
In 13 states the deadline for petitions for specific independent candidates has already passed. But, in at least 20 states the rules clearly allow Democrats and Republicans to do whatever, whenever.
If RCV magically appeared then the Green Party would be winning this one with AOC. Most aren't as stupid as we think. They only lack practical alternatives. I believe harm reduction would be a second choice for so, so many.
But, RCV isn't going to magically appear; Even if a politician wanted to, none can save us from the system; And, harm reduction simply isn't good enough anymore. The only way we progress is by doing much, much more than voting.
AOC and the squad have shown that Progressives can win on the Democratic ticket. Voters just need to turn out in the primaries to get their candidates nominated.