These 112 House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid
These 112 House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid
A majority of House Republicans voted against sending more than $60 billion to Ukraine. But it passed anyway, and it now heads to the Senate.
- The House passed a more than $60 billion bill that provides more military aid to Ukraine.
- It's part of a larger foreign aid package that's likely to pass the Senate and be signed into law.
- 112 Republicans voted it against — the most ever, and a majority of the GOP conference.
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Saturday's vote marked the first time the House had approved billions of dollars in Ukraine aid since December 2022, when Democrats still controlled the chamber.
In the two years since Russia's invasion, opposition to aiding Ukraine has grown from a fringe position to a majority view among House GOP lawmakers. Many argue the money should be spent domestically or that policy changes at the US-Mexico border should take precedence.
Here are the 112 House Republicans who voted against the bill.
Since rest of the thread is undirected anger without naming names, let's name names!
Find your representative here and make note if they’re on this list. They’re up for reelection two years after being elected.
So THIS is where Voronezh healthcare money went. Fuck em, please.
This should be the boarding list for the next container ship to Sochi.
For those who don't know, The New York Post was the first American media outlet that Rupert Murdoch brought back in the day. It tries to play off being 'center Right' as opposed to Fox News. Following the spin on the spin can break your neck.
I still like Moscow Marge more... But hey.
Marjory Traitor Green.Perjury Traitor Scheme
https://nypost.com/2024/04/20/us-news/house-approves-95b-in-military-aid-for-israel-ukraine/
The actual story if anyone wants to read that rag.
I've heard that Marjorie Taylor Greene is just Dog the Bounty Hunter in drag. I mean, has anyone seen the two of them in the same place at the same time?
Also, I've heard that she (he?) has a cleft butthole.
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Blatantly copying my previous comment.
Hey, Republicans, do y'all remember Red Dawn? Those two movies you made about The USSR and Russia being the ultimate evil enemy that was going to invade and must be stopped? You do? Good.
My real question is, why in the name of all that is Murican, ARE YOU ACTIVELY HELPING RUSSIA WITH THEIR ILLEGAL AND UNPROVOKED INVASION‽‽‽
Because the Soviet Union was a communist dictatorship, which the GOP hated (the communist part of it, anyway), and modern Russia is kleptocratic oligarchy, which the GOP loves. Easy enough to tease out, really.
The GOP decision-makers see the Russian oligarchy and how freely they leech their wealth from the public and say "I want that."
The MAGA followers see modern Russian society as a bastion of "western" (white) moral traditionalism holding out against progressive globalist degeneracy where none of this "woke" shit flies.
They have more in common with modern Russia than they do with modern America. They want the US to be more like Russia and many will be willing to spill American blood to get there.
Republicans are the kind of people who think Footloose is a warning against the dangers of freedom.
Yes, they are clearly bought and paid for.
Because money.
The fact that the only Nays were Republicans speaks volumes. The Republican party has been compromised by Russia, it's the only explanation that makes sense.
And, to clarify for future readers, this vote was only for the Ukraine Aid portion of the package. Each part got a separate vote. So even though the package includes Israeli funding, it wasn't part of this particular vote which was exclusively about aid to Ukraine.
well you got the names, now how about doing a little background check if there is some russki money lying somewhere in those traitors bank accounts...
I'm doing background research and found a picture of biden laughing with medvedev and berlusconi. I guess it's not just these 112 idiots who have ties with the mafia and russia but all of them are corrupted pigs in for the money and wealth
Biden already said he’d veto an aid bill that included Israel without Ukraine. The republicans tried anyway, by drafting legislation last week.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/05/us/politics/biden-veto-israel-ukraine-immigration.html
okay.
So now you have a list of politicians that can either be bought by Russian money, or are dumb enough to fall for Russian propaganda.
Neither of which should be elected to lead a country.
Agreed. We’ve also obtained a Russian foreign policy document that explicitly states the support of the right-ring party in leveraging the direction of the US in favor of Russian support.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/08/russia-propaganda-us-ukraine/
The communication if you wish to translate for yourself:
I mean, they do represent a portion of their constituents.
off topic but I think you missed a real opportunity by not making your username "Honytalk"
The (R) is for Russian Asset.
Must have been a dilemma though, voting for Ukraine to fall or voting for dead Muslims.
Republicans then: Yay McCarthyism!
Republicans now: Daddy Putin, please step on my face uwu!
It was never about the Russians, it was always about protecting the rich
nyaaaaaaah putin >w< i wanna be one of your chiwd sowlders twerks in mass war crime
- leaked imessage between matt gaetz and putin, probably
Its the same picture. McCarthyism was far more about whipping domestic residents into subservience than opposing some foreign menace. The Republican alignment with Daddy Vlady is now just a litmus test for party line faithfulness. A kind of partisan hazing ritual, where you have to go on cable news and say the thing that will get liberals to boo at you, so you can prove you're not one of them.
Then you can start hitting the harder stuff. You get into the QAnon kool-aid that convinces you there's a vast pedophile conspiracy to enslave white children, and only the most orthodox right-wing evangelicals can protect you from it.
Modern day Birchers have far more beef with China than Russia anyway. For, uh... reasons.
Send them to the front line to fight for their motherland.
If you care as much about Ukraine as you claim to why don't you go to the front lines and fight for them... Better yet, why aren't you advocating the United States to go directly to war with Russia? Wouldn't it be cheaper to get rid of Putin once and for all and to make Russia pay for the war?
Idiotic.
- why don’t I go fight? Because I’m not a fucking soldier. It would be a net negative for me to go fight. I have no military experience whatsoever. Ignoring the myriad other reasons.
- No, it’s far less expensive to send equipment and give intel to Ukraine. Why the fuck do you think proxy war is a thing?
Of course, you’re just shit-talking.
Getting rid of Putin, and for that matter Xi, will likely not do a thing to stop the war on the Russian side, and the clear plans for invasion in the Chinese side.
Hard evidence that neither country has functioning nukes would, but getting rid of either one just creates a power vaccume that will quickly be filled by someone that is likely to look much like their predecessor.
This thread is great because pro-Russian morons are exposing themselves so it makes it real easy to block them.
makes it real easy to block them.
FYI, when you block someone on Lemmy, they can still see your posts, and can respond to them.
The only thing that truly happens is that you can't see what they're saying/replying.
There's a difference between pro Russian and not supporting giving tax dollars away to another country. Not everybody is pro Russian who wants to keep our tax dollars at home.
Not in this context. Blocked
Send them to russia I'm sure they'll put them on the front line... traitors
So you're fighting on the front lines in Ukraine? Why not advocate that the US go to war with Russia directly? You just want to prolong things out for a few months, and then a few more months... Aid package after aid package tied to Israel genocide and all kinds of concessions for Republicans, while pretending that it was always about trying to "help" Ukraine
I'm honestly surprised that 101 Republicans voted yes.
They're not all dumb enough to get rich Russian style. Some of them remember that Russian oligarchs often fall out of windows.
Probably need a firmware flash, the blyats will get to it.
112 Government of Putin representatives and fully funded by the fucking Muscovites. Every single one of those asswipes, along with the MAGATs, should join their comrades on the front to receive a special greeting from NATO and Ukrainian shrapnel. Fuck them and in this case, the French should have never helped the Americans during their fight against the Red Coats.
TRAITORS
I know this isn't why they voted against it, but the mass surveillance / censorship bill tacked onto this that's vainly disguised as a TikTok ban is pretty scary.
Fuck the GOP.
Each measure in the package got it's own vote. They voted against Ukraine Aid for no other reason than that it gave aid to Ukraine.
Did they? Huh.
And now people are singing Speaker Johnson's praises?
Amazing stuff.
It's fine to praise people for doing the right thing and also criticise them for doing the wrong thing.
He did the thing that liberals wanted him to do, so he's a hero.
When he does a thing liberals don't like, he'll be the enemy again.
If you don't like how a politician is perceived in western media, just wait a minute. Everyone from Ralph Nader to Strom Thurmond can be villainized or redeemed over a long enough timeline.
I wouldn't be surprised if this list also list of yacht owners.
I see Lauren Bobo and Gaetz on there, it could be a list of pedophiles and public masturbators.
Who hasn't jerked off there date to Beetlejucie?
That movie gets me laying snail trails wherever I go.
Or anti Israeli as they also got a few billion in this deal
As people mention here Israel and Ukraine were voted separately.
Good for Speaker Johnson. It was a mistake for the far right to support him. He's an evangelical, but he's also a true believer, rather than a grifter. When fully briefed on the intelligence, he ultimately chose to do the right thing.
Those putinites should be kicked off the squad
These 112 House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid
So very Jesus of them. /s
Reagan has got to be doing cartwheels in his coffin right now.
Ominous budget bills should be illegal. Why should the have to vote to help Ukraine and also send billions to a known terrorist organisation known by the name of Isreal
They also snuck the TikTok ban in there. I know a lot of old and out of touch folks on here think it's a good thing to ban the "dancing app" but is it? They couldn't get enough support to do it as a single issue the last two times they tried so the shoved it into this one to get their way. Ludicrous that our government doesn't even pretend to work for us anymore. It wasn't banned to protect us. It was banned to boost and protect their income.
From what I've read they are just requiring that it not be owned by the CCP by a certain date, i.e. it's not actually being banned, it's just going to have a change of ownership. I might be old and out of touch because I've never used TikTok but it seems reasonable that an app which is providing the kind of content it provides at the scale it is providing it should be independent of the Chinese government if it wants to operate in the US.
The article "forgets" to mention the "foreign aid package" also contains billions to support "totally not a Genocide" commiting regime of Israel.I am not sure I would vote for it myself and I definitely support Ukraine.read the fucking article, each portion got a separate vote.
Which, paradoxically, means they're all going to pass.
The only piece of legislation the House really had beef with was the Ukraine bill. And they solved that by stapling the TikTok ban to it. Now the Dems in the Senate will greenlight all the money for Israel and Taiwan on reflex and choke down Ukraine as a sensible compromise.
Voting against Genocide money for Israel is very Based.The aid packages were separate votes, most did not vote against aid for Israel
Thank you for clarifying this I thought it was still bundles because all of the news was from the same day. I retract my previous comment.
Good.
I love it when you guys out yourselves like this so I know who to block. Bye bye 👋🏻
Fascist
So you like your Russia overlord, or are you just afraid of falling out of a window?
Good. Amazing how people are suffering here but we always have the money for foreign countries. Next time they say how can we fund Healthcare, homelessness or some program designed to help us people remember this.
It's a pretty selfish take. The US is (iirc) the largest economy on the planet. We take an absurd amount for granted and our standard of living compared to the vast majority of the world is insane. And yes - we've built it on the backs of damn near every culture on the planet. We deserve to give up aid to other nations. It is the least we can do. And frankly, this is a drop in the federal budget. Almost a rounding error. And even more, the majority of the money is gonna come right back into our economy because guess what - those weapons and ammo are going to be bought from U. S. defense contractors.
Perhaps you may live a privileged life but many of us don't. And that money will end up in the pockets of corporations and those who own them, not us peasants. If standards were better and we had what some would say are basic rights such as Healthcare then it would be less of a problem
If a small number of Repubs would vote for that it would probably pass also.
Yeah, let's pretend that these people aren't the same ones that vote against healthcare, homeless shelters and giving women a choice...How stupid are you?
So why are we expected to be the world police
Is this supposed to be some kind of public shaming? It's not as if there weren't any reasons not to issue a blank check to Ukraine.
A comprehensible way to view this war is: One corrupt shit-hole country, formerly part of the Soviet Unions has attacked another corrupt shit-hole country, formerly part of the Soviet Union.
I am German and I am happy with giving the Ukraine plenty of funds and other means in order for enabling them to stop Russia expending in my general direction. I don't really see that much benefit for the US so. But thanks, every US dollar spent is about 1€ less we have to spend. Go for it.
Every dollar spent by the US on Ukraine helps undermine Russia's global influence and protects NATO, which was the US's goal for like 70 years now.
Absolutely. YOU give them YOUR money. The
spicepetro dollars must flow.Absolutely. YOU give them YOUR money. The
spicepetro dollars must flow.
Making it very clear to the world you can’t just march into a neighboring sovereign country and take it over is very important for global security. That matters to all of us. We as a society should not accept that.
Absolutely. YOU give them YOUR money. The
spicepetro dollars must flow.
It's a very cheap and low effort way to reduce Russia's ability to invade across Europe and stomp a bunch of NATO countries.
Sounds very much like your opnion is formed based on general ignorance on the subject, sprinkled with a good dosage of egotism
At the very least, they should help because they promised to. In 1994 Ukraine gave up its nukes (it had the 3rd largest arsenal). It did this with assurances that the US, UK and Russia would all respect its existing borders.
By not helping Ukraine resist Russia, the US is reneging on that promise (by letting Russia change the borders).
The US has the same benefits as Germany. It is bad for an aggressive adversarial state to invade their way through Europe.
The US gives them funding by selling them equipment the US was done with. The country gets to collect shitloads of data on using the weapons in a proxy war they don't have to commit to.
It’s also a huge benefit to our economy and (eventually) military readiness. We’re giving mostly older but still useful weapons, and most of the money goes to US defense companies to replenish our supplies with the latest and greatest.
Yeah, we’ve been running way too much debt and need to get a handle on it but this is a good use of debt and the problem is much bigger than this one “minor” part
The money isn't going to turn the tide against Russia. Ukraine has no chance of winning. It is just math. Joe Biden has no interest for the well-being of Ukraine. US prefers that Ukraine bleed Russia. This means every last Ukrainian. Biden regime knows Ukraine can't win, but that won't stop him from lying about victory, and inflating the threat from Russia. Ukraine conflict is directly a product of US foreign policy and that alone. Even European states other than the UK don't really support the war. At least, secretly. Publically, they have to.
Honestly, what the fuck even is this bullshit?
Ukraine is fighting an invading force that is kidnapping children and targeting infrastructure. They have no choice but to keep fighting. Without financial and military support, Ukraine will cease to be.
You're not wrong that America benefits from the proxy war that has weakened Putin militarily and politically. Putin, like Trump, is a punkass bitch who is willing to kill to keep projecting power.
If America stops supporting Ukraine, that's not in anyone's best interest except Putin.
What is that post you're replying to? It's obvious tankie propaganda.
If you asked me in 2019 if I thought who would win between Russia and Ukraine I would have said no doubt Russia would win. After they took Crimea in 2014 it seemed it was only a matter of time. But after Ukraine successfully fought back Russia from taking Kyiv at the start of the war now I'm sure if Ukraine had the the proper funding they could defeat Russia.
Watching Russia actually mobilize and use some of the ancient tanks that modern weapons easily penatrate and destroy...and to see that they were even desperate enough to dig in and go through the red forest at Chernobyl to try to take Kyiv and still failed....it showed how desperate, under-funded, weak, and terribly lead the Russians are. It seems the only way Russia can beat this tiny nation is by literally throwing millions of men at bullets and hope that the Ukrainian defenders run out of ammo.
If Ukraine can be properly funded it will win. If you know you have the ammo and supply chains needed to keep the Ukrainian front line defenders properly supplied, just throwing away Russian lives endlessly wont work. Tankies desperately need the western populations to turn against funding the war in Ukraine because Russia has already been completely embarrassed in this war. The first major protests against putin inside Russia by armed mercenaries have happened directly as a result of this war. Putin could very well end up dead and Russia could have a whole new system of government if Ukraine is able to stabilize and push back in the coming years. People in Russia are tired of the war, Putin NEEDS a total victory to stay in power.
Don't let tankies convince you otherwise. The fact this war is still going on and that Russia has won so little territory from Ukraine shows that Russia is extremely weak. A properly funded Ukraine can win. Putin could easily end up dead, he is extremely paranoid. The fact that the Wagner group staged an armed protest in Russia is huge. All it will take is the right spark in Russia and there could be a massive revolt against the Russian government.
The only other way I see Russia winning is by using nukes. But if that happens I don't think Nato or the rest of the world would just let it slide....most likely it would lead to WW3.
With or without financial aid, Ukraine will lose. It is math. Russians invaded Ukraine because the US was trying to isolate Russia from Ukraine. This means no tolerance for pro-Russian Ukrainian presidents; the coup of 2014 that overturned the democratic vote, and the subsequent declarations of independent republics in the Donbas because of the color revolution that undermined democracy. NATO afterward starting arming and training Ukrainians will promote NATO and EU membership. NATO is a US organization, and NATO foreign policy is US foreign policy. Europeans are subservient to the US for security. Most European states don't support the war in Ukraine privately, but for the sake of NATO unity, they publically support it, because the US pays for NATO defense.
What do you think "math" is?
+5 rubles for every tankie propaganda post/comment.
I agree with these 112 morons. We shouldn't send aid to Ukraine.
The aid is in the form of outdated, surplus military equipment that was scheduled to be replaced anyways. The alternative is paying a company to dispose of them. So why don't you want to send this aid to Ukraine where it can be used? The only people that should have any problem with this are those who are busy sucking Putin's knob.
Or people who don't know anything about what you said because the media just acts like the bill steals money from us to give to them instead
You answered your own question!
A lot of that equipment would've just gone back for rework and upgrades. Just because they're old doesn't mean they don't work. That narrative was intended to force the US to by new more expensive hardware instead of repairing what we already have. Now that the old stuff is shipped out there's a demand for new builds.
We will only give Ukraine just enough to prolong the war as long as possible. This war means trillions of dollars in sales if it goes on long enough. I bet the US can stretch it up to ten years if they play the same right. And all the while, Ukraine will be bombed to shit, waiting for the US mega corporations to make more money on the reconstruction efforts. They just need to make sure Putin stays in power or the whole scheme falls apart.
The only people that should have any problem with this are those who are busy sucking Putin’s knob.
I would like to point out that russia is fine with this war otherwise they wouldn't have started it. Politicians and government use wars as a tool to get more power and enrich themself which is pretty much what is happening right now too
Y tho
maybe OP is a moron, too. condolences to his family.
The US has no intention of ending the war. They want Ukraine to be the next forever war to drive the military industrial complex
Exactly what a Russian bot would say.
But you also like to push Chinese interests, don't you?
Whoa, you caught me. I'm a Russian bot.
and why do you agree and join those morons?
They're right for all the wrong reasons. They just support Russia. I just don't support Ukraine becoming the next forever war.
Your post history shows you are intelligent and articulate. I feel that, geopolitically, that is a self-destructive act for our country over time. Why do you feel it’s a bad idea?
Because the US has no intention of saving Ukraine. The intent is for the war to go on as long as possible so we can continue making a shitload of money on selling weapons. As soon as it's no longer profitable we'll let Russia roll over Ukraine.