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President Biden and Vice President Harris Announce Additional Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Save Lives.
  • HOWEVER.. The entire point of the amnesty, is to make it illegal for ownership of certain firearms, make them illegal to resell, etc., but you give people incentive to give up and make money from the ones they shouldn't own

    The issue is the antigun groups are targeting rifles. You know how many people are killed by rifles a year? 1.5-2.5k, this is all rifles and shotguns combined. You know how many people are killed by AR-15s a year? 50-100...yea the weapon of choice for murder here in the states is handguns. It's not about keeping people safe, it's about virtue signaling to their base.

    Over time, you end up with far less guns in circulation.

    Pandora's box is open here. There is no closing it

    That's what happened here in Australia.

    Not really, you all now have more guns in civ hands than before the ban. Ratio wise it's less but that's because you have more people.

    You might still have a huge amount of firearms, but the aim isn't to solve the problem overnight. But, it saves a huge amount of the problem immediately, and over time, it solves the issue..

    Unless you plan on banning knives, which kill around 3.5k a year (yes that's correct more than all rifles and shotguns combined) then it's not about saving lives. It's about saving certain lives.

    It works.. It worked for us. You're playing the short game.

    It worked for you, because you have safety nets. You don't have a shit ton of gangs and drugs flowing through the streets. You don't have cartels 4 foot from your boarder. You also don't have the population size we do.

    You're trying to argue that unless the solution is 100%, it isn't worth pursuing.

    No, I'm arguing that it's a solution that will not work for even 5%. As I have explained above, rifles which are the targets, make up basically nothing when it comes to firearm deaths. Yet they're the constant focus. If we're to fix our violence issue here in the USA, we need to help get people to stop being violent first.

    No, but we have some of the most effective protection against shootings in the world. So it would be silly to ignore a working solution. We don't have a lot of the things on that list

    You have some major ones on that list. You for one don't lock up everyone who is a non violent drug offender to the point that you create broken homes which fuels gang membership. You don't have qualified immunity either, which here in the USA, 1 in 40 of our gun deaths is by the police. (Yes you read that correctly, the police here kill on average 1k Americans a year via firearms). You have single payer healthcare, you give a shit about your citizens and have safety nets. We lack so much that it drives our citizens into poverty and creates prime circumstances for violence.

  • President Biden and Vice President Harris Announce Additional Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Save Lives.
  • You in Australia did not have anywhere near the firearms we have in civ hands. Even then, the forced confiscation you did only 60% turned in their firearms. You know what %60 leaves here in the states? Over 100 million firearms in civ hands.

    The drug wars target mainly minorities which cause parents to go to jail, and kids to turn to gangs. It absolutely has an effect on our gun violence. Which the mass majority of our violence comes from is gang related, not random shootings like you hear in the news.

  • President Biden and Vice President Harris Announce Additional Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Save Lives.
  • Correct. The majority of our prison is non violent drug offenders, who lose their children, which end up in bad situations...which cause some of them to turn to gangs for that family role. It's a cycle that feeds violence, and the most fucked up part, is it drastically effects minorities more than anyone else.

  • President Biden and Vice President Harris Announce Additional Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Save Lives.
  • Here I'll fix our problem

    Pay teachers more

    Build more schools to reduce class sizes

    Make sure all kids have access to school food 3 meals a day

    Single payer healthcare

    Increased mental healthcare facilities and workers so kids don't turn to suicide

    Improve safety nets

    End the war on drugs

    End for profit prison system

    End qualified immunity

    Hey look gun violence has dropped like a hot rock...

    But no please keep doing the same shit and spend political capital on shit a very large portion of the usa doesn't want.