Or, and hear me out, I can rent a truck for the one time a year I need one. 20 bucks for a few hours from uhaul vs.... 20,000 more for a big truck over a commuter car.
That's what I keep thinking about. Like sometimes I would love an older, smaller styled truck. It could be really useful, but it sucks they aren't really an option anymore.
But then I think about it, and how often would I use it? I just bought a TV and had to have it delivered because it wouldn't fit in our car. We recently moved, and it would have been great.
But other than that, I honestly can't think of any time recently I've needed it.
20k just for the cost of the vehicle, probably MORE, plus extra insurance, gas tax cost all to save 50$ once in a while on a truck rental.
Not to mention that a pickup is basically half a completely useless car. You can't sit in the back, you can't really use it for hauling delicate stuff... It's just such a bizzare concept for non farmers.
For real I had a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon a while back. Went to a tool consignment store. Saw a full sized tablesaw with stand. Owner told me he’d give me $25 off if I could fit the whole thing in my Tiburon…and I did. And it wasn’t even hard.
I fold the seats down in my 12 year old BMW and have moved twice with that car! I even fit my mountain bike in the back many times (until I got a hitch rack because it was annoying lol).
Fr; I have a tiny CRZ coupe, but when I fold the back buckets down I can fit a tremendous amount of stuff in my car, even awkward and unwieldy-shaped things
Does the remaining 1% get resold by shady people in back alleys? "Hey you, you want a deal on 1% of some produce from a farmer's market? Fell off the back of a Prius."
My coworker lives in a downtown apartment with a cramped parking garage and bought a full size pickup to drive 1.5 miles to the parking garage at our workplace to write code. I'm embarrassed for them and keep telling them to buy a bicycle
Jesus. And I felt guilty for my commute only taking about 10 minutes down a highway. However, I didn't have a choice because the only access to the industrial park where I worked was from that highway. I still felt bad about it.
Driving 1.5miles twice a day everyday is a sure way to drain the car battery and multiply the wear and tear on the engine. Short trips are fine occasionally, but sooner rather than later the check engine light will pop up.
I have lately been pretty convinced that 70% of pickup drivers don't actually need a truck but instead use it to compensate their insecurity about their small dicks and their fragile masculinity.
I can't wait til we as a society get over shaming small dicks. I don't have a dick but it's cringy to me when people use "small dick" as an insult like this.
For me it's not so much trying to insult them for having a small dick, but insulting them for caring so much about having a small dick they feel the need to compensate.
Doesn't matter that their dick is small, just that they're so insecure about it they need to try and tell the world it's not true.
"You don't fit into the sociocultural group I'm a part of, AKA THE BEST GROUP, because you are not sending the right social signals! Therefore YOU ARE NOT A VERILE MATE FOR THE HOMINID FEMALES!"
"NO! CLEARLY IT IS YOU WHO WILL NOT SEED THE NEXT GENERATION OF OFFSPRING! Based on all the information I've gotten about appropriate social signals for my gender, age, ethnicity, cult, location and socioeconomic status, I am displaying the appropriate signals! So I shall point at you and say WEIRD!"
Well, I kind of agree with you, but also what I intended to say is that I think most pick up drivers don't feel masculine enough, whether it's due to a small dick or something else making them feel like they aren't "real men", so they compensate their insecurity by driving unnecessarily large cars.
Yeah, I maybe should have left the dick part out. A man can have a small penis and still not be insecure, and a man with a huge one can still be insecure about their masculinity and try to fix that insecurity with a stupid truck.
Absolutely. All you have to ask is why they need to own a truck and they instantly get overly defensive. I'm not saying there aren't cases where you need to own truck but the vast majority of cases people bring up don't even require a truck much less owning one.
Let's just get inspired by oats jenkins and his idea for redoing the traffic system and add a truck license, and you'll have to renew it every six months, just so they don't keep it forever
The license would be given to people that have genuine need for a vehicle like this, and don't have access to one (so if your job gives you a truck you can have it, it would have the job license on it, but then you cannot have your own license)
Otherwise they would just tell you to go fuck yourself because you don't need a truck like this
Someone I work with has never not owned a truck, mostly because "they don't need the hassle of renting one when they need to do yardwork and buy a fridge from the store" or something.
So spending an extra $20,000-$30,000 every 10 years is totally worth those occasional trips and avoiding renting a tailer/pickup from home Depot maybe twice a year.
The $1,400 it cost me to buy a 5x10 utility trailer was money well spent. It has easily paid for itself over the years.
I sold my last pickup years ago. If I need to use the trailer, it takes 5 minutes to hook it up. Having space to store it and a legit need for it are key factors here as well.
I have a truck to haul things. Trash, lumber, kayaks, bikes, and I've moved friends and family members at least 6 times. It's a 1995 and it spends most of its time parked though, it's not a daily driver. And I really dislike all the tall and massive trucks now. I want a bed that's actually low enough to be accessible.
I have one because I'm 6' 7" and I don't fit comfortably in much. One of my managers is super small, but drives a lifted Ram. I have yet to see him get into it but it must be funny to see.
I have a pickup. My wife says she likes my penis size. I question your hypothesis. Today, I used it to haul fire wood and tow a broken down ATV. Yesterday, I brought kayaks up to my family cabin. It gets used. Pre-COVID, it was part of the first leg of my commute. I’m not going to have a separate vehicle just to drive to the train station. That’s absurd.
Lol not only do you have poor reading comprehension, you have also failed to get anyone to believe what you just said. If i may provide some advice, if someone say something on the Internet that doesn't apply to you you do not have to get offened by it. Have a nice day friend.
People can down vote you, but they can't argue with this.
You must be the only pickup driver in existence that's figured out that all your pathetic justifications can be debated, but your opinion on what you want cannot be.
No problem with that. I think the meme is referring to people who spent 100k on outlandishly large and glitzy trucks to spend 100% of their lives on paved suburban streets.
My sister in-law? Broke as fuck, came across a windfall from an accident that never came up before, spent more than a third of it on... a fucking F-150 platinum. Still deep in debt, living in low income housing, doesn't have a job.
It's a gamble to get a used car you know nothing about when you have a truck you know is at least a bit reliable. My family grew up playing used car roulette and it's pretty damn hard to come out ahead in this scenario. Best to run the thing until it dies while saving up for a new or like new vehicle.
Switching costs money. From what he said money might be tight. I buy and sell my own vehicles. It is a job. Most prefer to give up a few grand to not have to do it (you never get paid full market value on a trade in). Even if someone decided to do it themselves they run the risk of losing big time if they're inexperienced. Even though I've been doing it for years even I lose on some of these. When I lose, it's usually close to the cost of the vehicle. I can afford that and in the end I average out really well.But the majority of people can't do that. I get all the hate new big trucks get and I agree. As someone who works in construction I wish station wagons would make a come back. But it's really easy to say "just do x y or z" it's not so easy to do.
There's someone at my work that owns a huge truck and they park at a turning corner inside the garage every single day. The garage is already cramped as it is, and then you've got a huge truck blocking off visibility when you turn the corner.
This shit happens in the parking garage I use too and it amazes me. I drive a small sedan and I refuse to park in those spots bc I'm terrified some idiot will sideswipe me (I have actually seen this happen to other vehicles). I can only imagine it's some sort of flex bc people have to avoid their oversized tiny-penismobile.
I feel like a pretty good vehicle for a lot of people like that who need a truck sometimes and don't want a second vehicle could be one of the new small diesel trucks, like the ram ecodiesel. 30mpg is more than even most compact SUVs get, it's still a truck for people that like that, and it can haul/tow more than a compact suv as well.
A big problem with 2 vehicles instead of 1 is often that insurance costs so much more, even if you're driving the same number of miles as when you had 1 vehicle. Registration fees too.
There's an EV ute-sized truck I saw going for sale soon in the EU and I want it so badly here in the US
Don't need a big pickup truck by any means, but I DO need something that can haul a couple hay bales 10 miles every few weeks or so and tow something in a pinch
Currently I just manage with my Leaf cuz fuck paying for gas, but the market is def there as I'm not the only one in my area that would love it
How's the legroom in the second row? I love the aesthetic of the Santa Cruz and that it's not an obnoxiously large truck while still capable of hauling and towing stuff. I did notice that the space inside looks pretty tight.
It's rated at 22 city 26 hwy, do you really get that much?
The super short bed looks a little less than useful but I do like the idea of an actually small truck because every truck these days is monstrosly large.
If you need a truck sometimes just get a MPV. Citroen Berlingo in XL version has 850 liters of cargos pace. The biggest Ford Raner has 1050 liters. If someone thinks they will actually carry things in their pick up I can't fit in my Berlingo they live in a fantasy land.
The dumbest thing I see is people using SUVs as family cars. MPV will be cheaper and 100x more practical for this. But people don't buy tracks and SUVs for practicality. They buy them for looks and to brag.
I keep my paid off subie around, but I do like driving the camp converted van around because I can just sit and relax without having to go all the way home.
I'm getting old and am a whitewater kayaker. You have to go where the water is which means a lot of long road trips and long weekends. Setting up and tearing down camp constantly wears you down. Now I pull in. Sleep. Can drive part way and sleep at a truck stop. Much nicer. Mine has the bed over the garage so bikes and snowboards can just live there all the time too. Most creek and freestyle boats fit inside too until I get around to putting the racks on. Then I'll also have an awning and solar.
You can rent a pickup for something like $20/day as needed. Or, just keep an old junker pickup around. But, renting as needed would be the cheapest option for most people.
Nope.. we were chatting and I was saying it's nuts that 80$ to fill my suv.. He then responded its 80$ for him to go to work and back.. So he may be exaggerating but I'm just passing the message...
I miss my S-10. You could crawl in the engine bay. 8 foot bed. Manual transmission. I know those size trucks aren't coming back anytime soon or probably ever.
Lemmy/Fediverse comment sections are pretty bad about making up personality traits/stereotyping people who do things they disagree with. This thread is wild.
That doesn't make it a sane choice for day-to-day transportation. If you can afford to have a regular car and a truck on the side for utility, great. Otherwise, why drive this giant polluting POS, which are usually rather expensive to purchase as well as to operate? Trucks aren't that comfortable to drive imo... hard to see in front of you, stop poorly, turn poorly, difficult to park. When you need to move furniture or whatever you can rent one for a day for $40.
I promise you the amount I save on my payment + gas is far more than the amount it costs me to rent a truck the very, very rare occasions I need one. The same goes for the vast majority of American suburbanites.