Man, they wanted something better than the shit show that their life had become. They had many ideas about how they could reform their country. A new socialist constitution, a emancipated reunion with the West etc. All they knew was that it couldn’t go on with the current SED clique

They didn't get something better though. They got capitalism, worse living conditions, and a bourgeois democracy that didn't represent them either

How did the SED respond? Fucking off with the last money. They left their population with no help when they negotiated with Kohl. But hey, to you that’s just capitalist propaganda probably.

The SED literally lost influence and that let reunification happen. You're blaming an organization that was trying to prevent something disastrous from happening for the thing happening disastrously.

Now it’s the people’s fault that they got screwed by the capitalists pfffff

Pretty sure it was the fault of the power dynamics at play, as reunifiers had taken control of the government and led to a massive looting of the GDR. And as for the SED "fucking off with the money" you get that the big impoverishment of east germany was that all the nationalized industries were given to private individuals, mostly people in West Germany who used to own(or whos parents owned) the industries prior to nationalization, right?

Also, I ask again: how did the Stasi respond to the lgbt movement in the 80s? Because that shit runs entirely contrary to the propaganda you're trying to spew.

Sure you do, as long as you vote for the candidate that the state prefers.

That isn't how soviet style democracies work. For example, the municipal assemblies of Cuba have multiple candidates for each seat, which are not chosen by the party. Those councils then choose a national representative for their municipality, which is confirmed by a popular vote.

Again, look up “Wir gehen falten”.

Link to what you're referring to please, I didn't find anything interesting in the search.

A US sponsored executive coup is not equivalent to collapsing due to its own problems.

You get to vote in socialist democracies like China, Cuba, USSR, etc. You've been told you can't. Who told you this?

If you don't believe me, look up the process for how the Cuban 2019 constitution and 2022 family code were drafted. Socialist democracy is more advanced and democratic than liberal democracies.

You're claiming that capitalism is better on having elected women officials? First off, no. GDR and west Germany had similar rates of women in leadership, and women had political organization through the democratic women's front.

Second off the framing is bad: I care less about smashing the glass ceiling than I care about not being hatecrimed in a rampantly misogynistic culture. I care about having the economic independence to leave abusive relationships, and to date for love and pleasure and not financial security.

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I didn't call it communism, and neither did the ruling communist parties. Transitional socialism is the proper word.

Calling something state capitalist when capitalism heavily relies on the state by default shows you need to hit the books on how capitalism actually functions.

Calling something state capitalist when capitalism heavily relies on the state by default shows you need to hit the books on how capitalism actually functions.

when in reality people who showed a smidge of dissent were persecuted.

Look up how the stasi dealt with lgbt dissidents after being told to solve the issue and then come back here and say that with a straight face.

Dissidents for "hey we need to fix the problems of socialism" or dissidents for "we have to dissolve socialist democracy and let the capitalists pillage us" were treated very differently.

And the ones arguing for dissolving socialism got what they wanted, and the result is justification enough for their oppression tbh. Better to suppress right wing dissidents than let them oppress vast swathes of the population.

“communism” at least as practiced in the USSR, Cuba, North Korea and China.

What are you talking about? Research how many rights women and lgbt people lost when the GDR fell for an example of how wrong-headed this line of thinking is.

For those who want light reading, I highly recommend "Why women had better sex under socialism, and other arguments for economic independence"

Bad faith actors are out here trying to channel energy into a psuedo-democracy instead of participating in bottom up politics.

If you care about stopping fascism, join a socialist org. Donald Trump isn't some anomaly, he is a result of systemic economic forces that bring imperialist violence back to our shores as global resistance makes our imperial influence overseas wane. Democrats (the people who control the democratic party, not like, voters) do not want to bring an end to the system that creates this phenomenon, they directly profit from it.

You can't base your opposition to fascism by voting for a party that supports the conditions that are creating fascism. I dont care who you vote for, go hog wild, but join a socialist org if you care about stopping fascism in the long term.

The major differences between a liberal and a social democrat or progressive comes down largely to deciding when a market has failed and when to use government intervention,

Okay sounds like you're just describing different labels for liberalism.

Compare these people to a communist who thinks we should literally nationalize and worker-self-manage the relevant sectors of economy and you'll see what people are trying to tell you about how liberals and conservatives are basically the same.

Or you'll get more communist when you have people to protect, like children or friends who start getting sick now that they're not young anymore

1. they are the majority of the forces in the United front which includes everything from communists to conservatives

2. that didn't answer my question at all. I will rephrase for your benefit:

Please explain how supporting Hamas(and other Palestinian resistance) negatively effects nonzionist Jewish folks.

Hey, please don't use mediabiasfactcheck, the guy is just a center right tool without any qualifications to be making statements about the accuracy of reporting.

Also, please remember that fact checkers aren't really useful for determining the accuracy of a piece and you should practice "critical reading" skills instead of relying on random people who make websites to tell you how truthful something is.

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and said “pro-Palestinian groups have voiced support for Hamas” (both issues that affect the non-Zionist Jewish community, and that I have personally witnessed).

Please explain how supporting Palestinian resistance negatively effects nonzionist Jewish folks.

Germany is one of the few countries that actually very critically review their own history and spend a lot of effort on teaching younger generations the horrors of war (and of national socialism obviously).

Wow, wild how Germany supports the genocide in Israel then. You'd have thought they were actually taught about that sort of stuff in school.

I'm guessing Germans also learned about how denazification didn't really happen in the western occupation zone after like 47? And how many former nazis had high ranking positions in NATO?

Like, the elected politicians and bureaucracy can’t be trusted enough to regulate industry under capitalism so we’ll centralize things and then trust them to regulate industry under Communism?

Literally read State and Revolution by Lenin which talks about how people assume the state has a neutral character, but actually it has a class character reflecting who it is designed to serve.

"One of the USSRs biggest mistakes was giving Ayn Rand an education"