I saw a early video from a "medical expert" the government was trying to "silence" we would all be dead within 6 months from the first jab containing cancer, ground up aborted baby fetuses, Aids, Cancer and Alzheimer's. I usually joke due to the Alzheimer's I've forgotten to die more than once now.
Most have moved on to Trans hate, bathroom use, child groomers and kidnapping. After reading Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World, it seems there are old themes religions have used to invoke emotional responses from the masses to maintain control. These conspiracy types have stolen the same plays for their causes to great effect as who does not think child grooming and kidnapping is terrible?
It doesn't require much thought or research to be moved with this kind of raw emotion and in the 90s these child abuse themes were hard to confirm on a grand scale but also invoked the same responses as alien abductions once did.
not only was it an idiotic thing to believe, but the sheer joy many of them said this with, like they actually would revell in delight at the thought of "vaxxers" dying everywhere. real charming people.
another reason I will never give a cooker the time of day, other than to mock them and watch them get shouty and mad
And now that all their friends, family and coworkers who got the vaccine aren’t dead they’re kind of shitty about it. Any reasonable, decent human being would be so overjoyed and relieved that they were wrong. But they’re not, they’re annoyed. And now I’m supposed to carry on and trust them like they care about people other than themselves.
I saw a minivan go by just the other day that had large homemade foam (?) syringe on top of their car with the word "genocide" painted on. They're still waiting for it to happen.
"any moment now anyone who got the vax is gonna flop over and start foaming at the mouth, I heard it on the My Pillow Guy show."
I can't decide which is more depressing, people stupid enough to believe the shit, or the absurd lack of credibility their sources provide - fucking rubes and idiotic liars deserve each other I guess.
If the government wanted to kill people, they'd kill those who refused to comply.
So the thing that would make more sense, is that the COVID vaccine was an antidote, and the government was going to release a toxic gas to kill everyone who didn't take it.
But nah, their argument is that the government is killing those who comply. Ya, because that makes sense.
This is my same argument for gun ownership as well. While I'm not against people owning guns, to think that us civilians would survive any decent length of time of the government finally came down on us is laughable.
When you point out its been a long time, and you're fine, so they say, "Give it 10 more years" lmao wtf just shut up and crawl back under your rock you science denying turnips
No, the way it is currently is any time someone in the news that is seemingly healthy but has a major heart issue (for example Bronny James) they immediately jump and say "IT WAS THE VACCINE!".
Being a republican means you never have to admit you're wrong. You just live in a whole other universe where chemtrails turn the frogs gay, and Trump is an innocent, Christ-like patriot.
What I never understood (not from America), is that one party claims to really care about freedom and less involved government.
Whenever I hear that I think cool, so the freedom to have full autonomy over your body? Legal drugs, abortion, etc. Or the freedom to marry who you want, whatever gender. The freedom to legally end your own life, for example if you are terminally ill.
But usually it's just large companies shouldn't pay tax and we want guns, but for everything else fuck freedom.
No, you understand completely. The people voting for that party are just brainwashed morons and middle class dipshits with a few stocks who think they'll become billionaires if only regulations were looser. You understand American politics better than like 80% of Americans.
Also while they claim to oppose the government, somehow the military and police don’t count. Plus how most veterans vote for the party that routinely wants to reduce benefits for veterans.
What gets me is the obvious con of it all. They preach anti establishment rhetoric... while being the establishment. They tell people not to trust the government... while in government... and expect people to trust them. And it works.
I'd love to see a full discussion from those who are downloading and uploading that comment, to try to understand the discrepancy between the people voting for and against the comment.
I wish. They still protest against the lockdowns every saturday down here in Melbs. You know, the lockdowns that are long over. But they want those freedoms that aren't being restricted in any way, shape or form, dammit!
I’ve seen the anti-vaxxers out and about. They have all these photos of people on little sticks and you think it’s going to be people who allegedly died of vaccines, but when you get up close it’s all stuff like “Marie had the Moderna vaccine. A day later she sprained her ankle climbing down off a horse.” “John had a sniffly nose a few weeks after Pfizer.”
"I know people who got the vaccine and died right after"
Ok. And I know 1,000,000x more people that didn't get the vaccine and died from COVID. Even if they died from the vaccine (they didn't), the vaccine is safer.
Now they have their "say no to the voice" rally with actual literal Nazi's. I mean conspiracy theory territory can get alt-right very quickly but to have actual Nazi's at your rally... You fucked up.
Honestly at this point you need to send some mental health professionals after them. They clearly aren't doing well and lockdowns broke something. Given the state of mental healthcare in Australia though good fuckin' luck.
Moving the goalposts suggests that they're still talking about the same thing. Instead they've moved on to a new conspiracy and don't even remember claiming the lockdowns were going to be permanent.
In other words:
"Who cares about lockdowns, that was 2 years ago. What matters is the Biden Crime Family!"
Check out INFOWARS (or much better yet check out Knowledge Fight). The ever looming prospect of more lockdowns and the globalist takeover is always coming tomorrow. When it inevitably doesn’t come, it’s because they exposed it.
Trump gave a speech recently to his army of idiots trying to convince them that the lockdowns will be back just in time to stop them from voting for him.
My boss lost his sense of smell (it's been over a year). He copes by saying he's never been much of a foodie! He tells employees not to take covid tests.
I have a cousin who still insists that her mom died of pneumonia and that it wasn't COVID. Her husband is currently in prison for storming the capitol on January 6th, which tells you all you need to know. It's weird because she's the only one in my extended family who's even remotely into far right craziness.
They withheld any information about C-19 to US citizens until into 2020. Yet I found myself sick with 'influenza' for Christmas 2019.
That was the closest thing worth calling a 'hoax', the fact that it came out in 2019, but the US public wasn't even made aware of it until later into 2020.
By then people were already sick, and it was spreading out of control. Lockdown was about a joke at that point, they waited too long for lockdown to do a damn thing.
BTW, it didn't affect me any worse than any other case of a strong cold or the flu, though I totally realize it affected others differently.
I definitely heard about it on NPR in Christmas 2019. Not invalidating your experience, but I definitely heard about it on NPR. People were watching it
I assume the accepted copout is something along the lines of, "You can thank us for making enough noise that they backed down. Sheepdogs, sheep, blah blah something something..."
Still ‘had to.’ It’s pretty disgusting to sit in a poorly ventilated classroom with 10 people coughing their lungs out and wiping their snot on the chairs. University by the way.
They’ll just claim that it was because of their efforts that they prevented the Islamic takeover of the US through mask mandates, when really it was all because Trump didn’t want his makeup rubbing off on his mask. One man’s vanity and the whole nation suffers.
No, they just moved on to repeating verbatim every other talking point they're spoonfed. Hunter's laptop, "it'll be gone after the election", Hillary's emails, election hoax
And the email BS that transpired after "Hilary's emails" was much worse than what they were crying about in that election. It was a great way to take the eye off the ball.
I’ve got some of this lot on my LinkedIn, of all places, all hoping to one day stop being openforwork by non-stop posting conspiracy theories where potential employers can see it. Their latest thing is that they saw The Hunger Games and decided that 15 minute cities means walled-off districts rather than simply not having to drive everywhere to get what you need.
This is how it works now. Anything suggested to make the system a little bit better will piled on by arguments that make no sense, and don't even seem to be attacking the actual idea.
That and the fact that everything about our society shits on working people and tells them that it's their own fault that they aren't rich like the college-educated elites who look down on them.
It doesn't actually make any sense, but I am telling you that this is a huge part of the resentment that Trump was able to tap.
I'm very happy I have very little real-life experience with any of the anti-vax idiocy, and that it wasn't really a big thing in my country. Seeing all of the conservative 'muricans loose their minds over it has been both hilarious and frightening.
We still see occasional clubhouse rallies on the side of the street here in my city. They don't even know what they're protesting anymore, and are now waving both US and Russian flags. We're Canadian. My wife and I like to appear visibly laughing whenever we pass by. Sometimes I fantasize about having a device on the side of my car that launches a hornet's nest in their general direction, but I don't think they make those.
It’s amazing to imagine an oppressive government wanting everyone to wear masks forever without a religious demand for modesty. Like you have surveillance that relies on facial recognition.
They still won't admit they were wrong. They don't possess the willingness to self reflect whatsoever. Imagine living such an empty husk of an existence.
It wouldn't really be self reflection, because these people don't really believe the nonsense they say.
When they say the government is going to stay locked down forever, they don't mean it literally. To them "lock down" is a vibe and "government" is a vague Them that controls the world. As long as the vibes are fucked and They are in charge, it feels correct.
You know what's also been disappearing? The clip where Rachel Maddow claims "the virus stops with every vaccinated person" on MSNBC. Has anyone admitted that the efficacy of the new vaccines has been massively overstated?
I mean, people not vaccinating didn't help as it gives more people for it to run through, mutate, spread, mutate again, spread again, etc... Which means needing new vaccines depending on the mutations.
There are likely many more factors, I'm not a doctor
Really shouldn't listen to Rachel Maddow tho, she went hard into russiagate too and afaik still defends her coverage.
Reality is this is an English thread, I don't speak or read whatever language that is.
And don't tell me to use Google Translate, this phone is degoogled and I ain't about to change that to read a foreign article when I live in and experienced the USA side of things.
2 weeks to flatten the curve, 6' social distancing, 1 way grocery isles for some reason, remote schooling is just as good, masks made of old t-shirts work great, just get the jab and everything will be back to normal, of course you need a booster, did I say 1 booster? i meant 4.
What rise of myocarditis? that's a MAGA Qanon conspiracy!
Why attribute the inaccuracies of Covid treatment and advice to government malice rather than it was a novel disease we didn’t really have a clear playbook for?
Do you think scientists and doctors are infallible?
I get you're just a troll with no freinds, loved ones or hobbies to spend your time on, but I'll bite.
Lock downs would have been far more effective if window lickers like you had gone along with them. And the idea of 2 weeks to flatten the curve was based on predictions of how it was spreading (which as someone that has done actual research projects on disease transmission is incredibly complicated, to the point we had to rent several hours on a super computer to get out model of a couple million nodes to run) and because it was a prediction, its susceptible to being wrong. And anyone with an iota of intelligence is not afraid of being wrong and changing their advice as our models update. But losers like you take it as "you were wrong about that, so you must be wrong about everything" because you only care about "winning" arguments, not about learning or even 'winning' arguments.
And do you own pets? Do you get them their yearly boosters? Or do you think Hepatitis and Rabies are fake diseases too? Or the flu, since you have to get a yearly booster that means it's a fake disease too?
It's crazy how if we had all managed to stay away from each other for roughly a month, we might have eradicated the flu and possibly the common cold as well.