Designed by men, for men: Why sex with robots does not have appeal among women
Designed by men, for men: Why sex with robots does not have appeal among women
The growing market for sex technology is overlooking certain factors that could condemn robosexuality to objectification
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Isn't that because women have had vibrators for decades?
does that make it gay
No, it just makes it boring straight
I want to know what the state of the art AI sex robot is right now. Because they have those realistic-ish sex dolls, and some pretty advanced LLMs that can chat conversationally, and longer term memory is starting to get into the LLM repertoire so your bot can remember things about you and reference them later.
I feel like we're 3-5 years away from a high end AI prostitute startup becoming huge.
It pains me to think that there soon may be a whole new employment field built around the demand for workers trained to muck out robo-vajayjay.
"natural" movement and the Uncanny Valley might be the next biggest hurdle actually.
They just have to lie back and squirm
My favorite part, is that ALL of the current AI companion products use subscriptions to LLM services instead of having built in models.
Which means
ifwhen the company stops paying their bill, or if the AI company goes under, your waifus goes kaput. Or more likely just restructuring because of a buyout. It's already happened with a few companies -> big tech buys out the company then stops supporting the product line, that then customers get mad. IIRC, coincidentally HP is being sue for doing just that with some recent buyout right now lmao.The ante seems to get upped each time, and there exists at least one unstable lonely maniac that will not consider legal consequences to their actions when they are suddenly rugpulled out of their unhealthy addictive relationship, so there's still room for the bubble to burst in an even more epic crash.
200k and they still want to milk you for a subscription 😂
Thats easy to solve though. It'll appeal to women if the sexbot can do household chores. Who wouldn't want a robot maid?
Maybe some men like the idea, but I bet most of them would soon find the experience less fulfilling than they had hoped.
I'm with the ladies on this one.
Most men are not much into the idea, either.
Intimacy is something very human, something most people are not ready to trust a machine to do, even if it's capable of visibly empathetic reactions.
There is a desire to connect with another human being, not programmed to like you, but actually choosing you freely. It's what people call "feeling it real".
Most folks I have seen pushing for robotic partners are incels craving at least some form of closeness - having something like this might be better than nothing.
Also, dudes, let's be real: would you put your dick into a machine much stronger than you? Something goes wrong and you don't have your precious parts anymore.
Also, dudes, let's be real: would you put your dick into a machine much stronger than you?
Hell yes
Something goes wrong and you don't have your precious parts anymore.
Oh, IDK why I interpreted it as like a buff robot lol. 👀
I'd prefer a real hooker.
Former sex worker - what’s the appeal?
It’s basically impossible to do full service work without being severely traumatized. I guess I don’t have to pay for sex since I like men - no matter what age sex gender race what the fuck ever there’s a guy within 10 miles that’ll stick their dick in you - but I guess I don’t see the appeal of sex that my partner isn’t enjoying.
"what’s the appeal?"
Of a sex worker or a robot?
basically it boils down to skin-on-skin human contact versus a toy in this case. Did you never ask a client/partner/audience member? I assume reasons may vary. -I personally think the nature of the (business) relationship to be low-pressure and relatively straight-forward. -That is if we are to contrast it with the dating experience for the average man. Not everybody is relationship material, regardless.
All sex is transactional, all women are whores and all men are johns, it's just we have this weird cultural thing where it's a crime to say "Look can I just Venmo you?" so we have to do things like pay for sex with flowers and chocolates and restaurant meals and jewelry and alimony.
"I faked all my orgasms" is up there with "your dick is small" on the list of "things women always say to men they're angry at" so at some point his ability to care if its true or not burns out.
It's funny to think that far enough into the future this may be viewed as robophobic.
Roboburbilbear!
Shardik!
Bear Metal
Metal Bear Solid
I guess a vibrator isn't a type of sex robot?
Just saying that these sort of toys were way more normalized for women long before they were for men.
A man with a fleshlight was a gross weirdo, a woman with a vibrator is a strong independent woman taking control of her sexuality and not settling for the weakness of flesh in men.
Colloquially, the word "robot" always implies a certain amount of anthropomorphism. So no, I don't think a vibrator would count, as basically no vibrators on the market try to look human-like.
But that definitely is a weird difference between male and female sexuality - the sex toys women buy most are the very effective and utilitarian ones: Vibrator wands, Rabbits, Air pulse Vibrators etc.
While the most popular tools for men tend to focus on "realism"(?): Fleshlights, Sex Dolls, things like VR and POV porn. And I guess sex robots would fall into that category too in the future.
I can absolutely see the weirdness-factor of someone who is desperately trying to emulate a partner rather than just accept masturbation as a solo activity and optimize it from there 😬
I think you are confusing the word robot with the word android
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=robot+vacuum&t=fpas&iax=images&ia=images
Ah yes, the extremely humanlike robots. 😂
I think one difference is that men often have no support structures at all, and certainly not with levels of physical or emotional connection. They aren't just craving sex, they are craving human intimacy and connection where it is very normalized in the west among women to have emotional and physical platonic intimacy among friend support groups.
Slap a pair of googly eyes on it and it as good as has a soul.
Overpriced pornstar-branded fleshlights aren't the only masturbators in town and it's not like there's no life-like dildos either. The long and short of it is that the mechanics of a lubed hole are superior to that of a hand and you're not looking at the entry point all the time so noone actually cares what they look like.
Yes, the branded stuff does exist, humans, male female, doesn't matter, enter parasocial relationships news at 11. Can you imagine how well Justin Bieber dildos would sell.
This was my thought. Its the same way all our technology has grown. Honestly I think brain interfaces could eclipse robots like this before they are that great. As scary as that is.
Dildos and vibrators were first a medical devices for hysteria.
Dildos have been around a lot longer than that. https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-the-dildo
My understanding is that "hysteria" legitimized the use of the vibrator (not unlike how "weight loss" was used in the 1980s to prescribe fentanyl), but they were around before that, and probably would have found another way of entering the mainstream.
I will get a sex robot when it can scoop catboxes and fold laundry.
You're into some weird shit but I respect it
I'm willing to settle for fully self cleaning but I wouldn't say no a full Maid Fuck Bot
I will get a sex robot when it can order me to scoop cat boxes and fold laundry.
Shit, you don't need a robot for that! I can do that for free
Genius! It will sell even without the sex
Ding ding ding.
I dunno, everyone was cool with the love story of Wanda & The Vision from the MCU. I guess fucking robots is not ok, but becoming emotionally attached to one is?
Except Vision isn't a robot, he's an android. Or maybe more than that; a synthetic life form. He is his own person, with his own wants and needs. He can feel and develop opinions on things. He's not merely a computer with a personality algorithm.
He’s not something that was gestated or birthed, thus is not a person. You can say an android is different, but regardless he’s not human or living. He’s a fancy thinking robot. Wanda basically fell in love with an LLM with an attached vibrator.
I've never seen the Wanda and Vision show, but I always imagine it being Sonny from the I Robot movie with Will Smith, and Wanda Sykes.
The love story in the movie "Her" is even more impressive. It's impressive because it's not even a robot, it's just an AI voice and yet the love story is still compelling. And it also asks bigger questions, sure there's the question of could a person fall in love with a machine, and is that ok? But it goes further to ask, if the machine is actually intelligent, what does the machine see in the humans? Do the machines actually still need the humans at all?
I don't think that's a linear logic. We all know Vision is a robot. But we also know it's a story about a robot that is played by a man. We are watching for the spectacle, not because we believed the story to be real.
Realistically how is a man going to design a good sex robot for a woman? Let a woman do that, they'll get what they want.
Women already have the perfect sex bot. It's called a Sybian.
Speak for yourself. Gimme that drama free dick.
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Idk what's the big deal, honestly. Remember the memes about yt premium, "I either give you my money, or my data, but not both"? Well, it's kinda like that. The caveat is, their payment provider likely still collects data, and some info is saved on the backend anyways, but that's another can of worms.
Asshole design is asshole design. They're essentially saying here that they'll sell your data whatever you choose, opting out is not an option.
Obviously there's easy ways to bypass this but it's not an excuse for them
Edit: also, their "cookie (and data sharing ) policy":
Clicking on "accept cookies" you're agreeing WAY more than implied
Sex with a hella sexy robot? Nice.
Using a hella sexy robot to fill the emptiness of no intimacy or authentic mutual connection? Not nice.
For some reason sex with a robot doesn't feel gross to me — until they start using it to fill a hole (hehe)
What about for people who struggle to have emotional intimacy and sexual intimacy throughout their lives because of medical issues or mental health issues?
My ex has a brother who is now pushing 40 and has never even held a woman's hand. He has severe mental disabilities and will never live life on his own without some kind of caretaker. We know he looked at porn, partially because he refused to ever let people fix up his computer, usually out of fear of people seeing his porn.
Does he not deserve emotional and sexual intimacy? There is a high likelihood he will never have it otherwise.
until they start using it to fill a hole
What about, like in the situation I just described, when that hole will otherwise go a lifetime of being unfulfilled? Is that fair to them for being born a way they didn't choose?
Different filler for different holes.
A sex bot is fine if you keep expectations in check. For the rest, friendship can go a long way. Help them find a hobby they can share with others (regardless of gender) and keep that platonic. That gives them social connection, and the sex bot gives physical release.
It's not as good as a complete relationship, but at least there's less risk of the sex bot creating more problems by trying to have it do human things.
You're telling me women don't like vibrators.
archive coz this site has aids
Electro-gonorrhea, the noisy killer
They don't
thathave that much appeal to me as well, and I'm a dude.I'm no expert on attraction, but what if the sex robot looked like a skeleton?
I want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride.
I want to get off on Mr. Bones Wilde Ride.
All it took was one search to find plenty of contradictions to that post title.
Make robots look like bears or dolphins?
[off topic]
From the movie Cherry 2000. In the movie the hero has just lost his sex robot and is trying to date human women for the first time in a while.
It's a favorite campy classic of mine. I love bad movies.
I also think it's one of those films with a great idea but terrible execution that could be remade.
I want to see a remake where Cherry 2000 actually has agency and consciousness and at the end of the film the two women run away together leaving the creepy guy behind.
I always thought a remake could have Chris Elliott as the creepy guy and he would kill it in such a role.
Have you seen "Ex Machina?"
In this current age of western dating Sex Bots at least cut out all of the bullshit for many men and give you basic companionship with the perks of sex, which is a lot easier for some than dating.
Well i guess im a woman then lol
every time I see crap like this it make me think about that 30rock porn for women skit with Tina Fey
In these sexual relationships, availability and consent will always be taken for granted, something that’s never taken for granted in a sexual relationship with another human being.
People could get used to interacting in a way in which the other person isn’t taken into account as much, meaning that sexual partners could be instrumentalized for the purpose of having sex. That is to say the ‘human-humanoid’ interaction could be transferred to the relationship between two human beings.
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Unfortunately, however, these advances aren’t being accompanied by deep reflections about the consequences that sex with robots can have.
never taken for granted
In healthy relationships anyway
Isn’t the answer quite obvious?
I thought onlyfans was the cheap and easy desire "fast-food"-like product for women. Or instagram or whatever social media gives people the impression of being center stage. Not robots.
Humans are all different. It's difficult to accurately generalize them. Some people like only fans, but for other people it does literally nothing for them.
To each their own.
