Saw a video about this on Mastodon. It looks like they projected a whole video presentation that outlines a bunch of the Nazi shit Musk has done, not just the image of his salute.
Yep. Musk is a racist anti-Semite. Not surprised he's so well practiced on the nazi salute
It sucks that this is where we are. America once the defeaters of Nazi's. Now appointing billionare Nazi's with influence to government positions. Fuck man.
Well, we started out with a genocide so terrible Hitler idolized it and called it “The First Great Cleansing”. Also, you ever seen this image from the 1940’s? It’s in Madison Square Garden.
Also, when did America join the fight against the axis powers? Oh, 2 years after the war began? Only after Pearl Harbor? You’d think a country so moral would join the fight against genocide quicker.
Also, it was the USSR that “defeated” the Nazis.
Hmm, but how did they play the audio? Just having a really powerful loudspeaker besides the projector? Or was it just edited into the video?
That is an out-fucking-standing protest projection.
Introducing the new Model SS.
You can get a box trailer upgrade for the model X that can transport 'livestock' on the cheap, called the model X-terminate
They can't do that - GM Holden had the SS since ever.
It runs on white power!
wtf, is that real?
It's being projected as part of a protest by https://bsky.app/profile/politicalbeauty.bsky.social and https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:37x2qvt3z5iwuyzusvnvlepi
Heres a video of it
Brave protest. Pretty sure Nazi imagery is illegal in Germany. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong
There's plenty of "fair use" cases which would allow it.
§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:
- art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
- scientific research
- education
- news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)
And probably applying in this case - in protesting said anti-constitutional organizations, for example a crossed out Swastika as a form of protest against Nazis is still very much legal.
Most important is the intent. If you plan to use those symbols with the intent of furthering the ideology of anti-constitutional organizations, it is probably forbidden. The intention has to be clearly against those organizations, otherwise it might be actionable.
Btw the communist party of Germany, the KPD is also considered an anti-constitutional organization and therefore it's symbols are forbidden in the same way.
§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:
- art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
- scientific research
- education
- news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)
Which is funny because the video game series Wolfenstein famously had to change all of their in-game imagery. The series is about killing Nazis, but it was banned in Germany until the game devs removed all of the swastikas. Because apparently showing the swastika is banned, even when it’s used explicitly to say “these are the bad guys.”
Does "anti-constitutional" mean against the German constitution specifically, or the concept of constitutions? If the former, prohibiting ideas of government other than the active one is a pretty strict restriction on speech. I totally get the desire to outlaw imagery supporting Nazism because no one wants that shit to come back, but lumping communism in there too seems a bit strange. Or maybe I'm just totally misunderstanding what you said.
It is with few exceptions. Given that it looks like the purpose is to call out a Nazi supporter I think they wouldn't get in trouble for that though.
It's not exactly uncommon for systems set up to oppose something to end up supporting them instead. See the ADL covering for Elon and condemning those opposed to genocide as antisemitic. In theory the ADL should be opposed to fascism, but because Israel has become fascist they found themselves on the same side as those who had been and would be their oppressors.
Freedom of art in that regard. The only illegal thing might be to project something to the factory
Nope it's legal. §303 StGB:
Whoever, without being authorised to do so, substantially and permanently alters the appearance of an object belonging to another [...]
Projections are far from permanent. What I'm blanking on right now is whether cleaning something is captured under that wording, I vaguely remember them discussing changing it, dunno if they have. If a wall is dirty enough you can make a great graffito with nothing but a pressure washer.
This will be great for business. If I had Tesla, I would try to get rid of it.
I’m working in Germany, and I see a lot of people complain about Musk and switching from Tesla, which was a very popular even a few years ago.
The people who can afford overpriced EVs are also the ones who can afford the “virtue signaling” to switch to another brand - especially as now there are a lot of great alternatives, many of them cheaper and better.
Haha, I saw someone already selling elon salute stickers to put on Teslas. I kind of feel bad for anyone who bought one used or a long time ago.
record number of people are buying Teslas!
Narrator: "Most were used."
Assuming you can sell the Tesla, doesn't that just mean that there are just as many people looking to buy a Tesla?
Not for Fuehrer's company. He gets nothing from that.
You may be taking quite a loss but someone would buy it. As an extreme of you offer to take one dollar for the Tesla there would be plenty of potential takers because a cars a car.
Selling used for cheap also puts pressure on new car demand.
Man baby needs to be held accountable for his actions.
Weiter so!
That is fantastic
Das ist fantastisch.
Nice
You can heil one of those robot taxis
Beautiful 😍
What's next for Leon Hitler, a Fackelzug (Fackelmarsch)?
I'm guessing, he'll stop paying his workers, surround the factories with barbed wire so they can't escape and tattoo numbers on them to easier keep track of what they are doing.
Not a stretch his companies are already filled with racism and it has been legally proven so many times.
Cute stunt, nothing will change.
They’re doing a lot more to change things than being on lemmy
A bigger, louder '0' is still equal to 0, but with more wasted effort to boot. The question is why Berliners still like Naziism enough to leave that building standing is what I wonder when they shine a projector on it for a day and call it anything. I would say they're doing a lot more to waste effort, energy, optics, and time than being on lemmy.
What does stute mean?
Tesla, skinny and in nerd heaven getting to be part of nerd ghost orgies where he would do it with 5 or 10 of the most beautiful, clever and knowledgeable nerd babes...play nerd beard games...he probably saw Elon, like all of us did back in the early 2000's, and said " hmmm what a wonderful guy, I'm so proud of what he's accomplishing in my name! But now, after countless rolls in his grave, he's just taking it one day at a time. During the last orgy...Tessy! Touch my beautiful round and curvy monopoly figures please!... Hold on, Elon just did a Nazi salute!...oh my God!... Tesla, you called? Yeah, did you see what Elon did again? Yeah another Nazi salute! I just called hell and they are sharpening the glass ping-pong balls... Oh those? No, they don't play ping pong, those go up his butt where they break. It's a first day thing..... He's due there when he turns 93. Yeah we're going with a pretzel. Its funny as heck, that's why!
This is fake though. The letters don't match and there is no other pic on the Internet to prove, it happened. But the fact it seems real, speaks volumes :D
Edit: Turns out not fake. I was just skeptical at first.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that Tesla had a sign that says "heil" in Tesla's font manufactured and installed on their factory next to their name. It's a projection by a protestor to draw attention to Musk's Nazism.
lol So your first assumption was that it was done by Tesla and not a projection done by outsiders?
Yeah. It looks like that in the first place, but no. I am just skeptical of blurry images on the internet. I distrust anything I see, until some more evidence is provided.
@[email protected] & @[email protected] I see the news article and see the logic behind it, but this can't possibly be the only pic out there. I am not denying Elon isn't Nazi. He definitely is and everything he touches is now, lightly put, tainted.
But there has to be another angle or even a video. Just a single blurry pic immediately seems suspicious to me.
Here with you, always useful to be on the watch.
The angry mob will seriously eat everything they're fed, and questioning it might make you seem like an enemy. You're not.
