Yeah but the she-devil Kamala supports post-birth abortions.
- a family member
I too support post birth abortions of healthcare CEOs
My Catholic-ass mom reads a Catholic-ass newspaper and recently told me with complete confidence that Hillary Clinton was the "partial-birth abortion queen". How do you even have a conversation with someone who's ingested so much propaganda?
Gift them a birthing bed with a built in guillotine?
Jokes aside, this is why we should bring back fire bombs.
Wouldn't opposing post-birth abortions mean more gun control?
Obama won his senate seat because his opponent had an affair. Everyone said he was too young, but then he went on to beat Hillary and McCain.
Bill Clinton won the democratic primary because everyone thought Heart was going to win, then HE had an affair. Everyone said he was too young, but then he went on to beat Bush.
Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden won their primary because "IT WAS THEIR TURN". Biden only won because Republican rigged it to suppress mail in voting, but that suppressed the wrong group in the wake of COVID. I think we all have our theories on Harris. My point: I think it is time for someone that isn't "THEIR TURN" to become our next nominee.
Biden won the highest turnout election in more than a century, and Al Gore's win was stolen by the Bush clique. This is gross reframing or even reimagining of events to suit your narrative.
Al Gore is not like the others. Yes you might say he became the nominee because it was his turn. But, he also had extremely good policy ideas that were very different from “not being Trump “.
And he won both the popular and electoral votes
All of this is just a distraction anyway. It's rich vs poor always has been. We have a huge group of people that should really be allies but are brainwashed against their own interests. It's easy to say they're on the wrong side but we should really be looking to mend the divide in ways that we can rather than further it by stating how morally superior we are.
This rich vs. poor thing would be a hell of a lot more believable if there weren't so many poor people who were gigantic fucking bigots.
How do you mend a divide between people who exist and people who hate their existence?
Agreed. It's uncanny how no news source wants to call out the class divide and instead focuses on the partisan divide
It's not that strange when you consider they are a major tool in the class war. We do still have elections, and so whoever the ownership class can't buy they need to have their outlets convince us not to vote for.
There is no "unbiased" media when it's corporate media.
When they stop trying to hurt my friends, I'll be the first to present an olive branch. Yes, we should create class solidarity, but you can educate the willfully ignorant.
Sadly, a lot of them voted for Trump because they think he's going to "fix it". The sad thing is they just trust him to figure it out once in office.
This is maybe oversimplifying things, however - I will never fully understand how somebody hears a candidate talk only about who they will hurt first, while their opposition talks about how to help the most people...and the guy who wants to increase the human suffering wins.
I mean, logically, yeah I guess I can understand. But at the same time, I will never get it. :P
I come from an immigrant family. We came legally, sure. But the fight is the same: provide a better life and better opportunities for the next generation.
It blows my mind how someone can change this to paint the immigrant as bad. All while there are American citizen business men hiring the immigrants. Go after the business men?
I don’t get it. Wouldn’t people want to look past the place of birth and look into someone’s character? Surely a person fighting for a better life for their family is more honorable than a businessman looking to cut corners.
I’ve met conservatives with such deep hatred for “illegals” that I sincerely cannot understand where they’re coming from.
It's all about fear. If the propagandists can play on your fears, you will learn to hate whoever they tell you to; but there's also greed, which essentially is the fear of not having enough/more/whatever.
You see, money was not invented to be used as currency. Nor does it represent the "value of labor" or any of that crap. Money is fear made manifest. It only exists so that you will be afraid of not having enough. Even those sociopathic billionaires we all wanna eat only get that twisted and fucked up inside, just cause they're still afraid of money, or at least that someone else might have more (I think? You have to be a completely useless shitheel to amass that much wealth).
And finally, lack of a sense of personal responsibility. So much easier if it's someone else's fault you didn't make it big.
Oh, and the hatred of a conservative will never make sense. They have imported the thoughts and ideals of another whole cloth, all because they're afraid of being on the losing team. There is no logic to such things; it's a very insidious form of brainwashing.
They have been sold a lie that all the changes in their life have been the fault of immigrants, poor people, technology etc. The life they were promised doesn’t exist anymore and they fear change, and they are provided with a scapegoat be it immigration or so called liberals. It is easier to fear and hate something than to look at the truth. The wealthy and elite have been steadily taking more and more in their greed and lust for power.
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said:
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
This has just expanded a bit more to immigrants as well in recent decades.
The Democrats candidates talked at length about how they were tougher on immigration, more supportive of Israel's genocide, and favoured by sadistic fascists like Dick Cheney. It was literally both parties arguing that they would be the ones to increase human suffering the most
Oh for fuck sake, really?
What the fuck ever; I'll still take the side that talks less about causing harm. Or any option other than Mr Orange Weirdo. The senile shit stain answers every question with a list of people he needs to cause harm to.
No, the Democrats are not "the same".
Also, maybe read the room and just delete your stupid account?
The Democrats are never able to pass these things while they're in power, though.
Like yes there is Obamacare and some loan forgiveness, but it's drops in the bucket compared to what Republicans are cooking up with Project 2025
That’s not the full picture, the republicans house and senate votes have a clear history of obstructionism for the last 30 years
Just look at any vote after George HW Bush and then compare that to public sentiment about what they are voting on.
Yeah, they can get project 2025 done because they brainwashed half of society to support them.
I agree with you that Republicans have been big on obstructionism. And Democrats have never taken serious steps to deal with it, because corporate Democrats like the obstructionism. They want to pretend to be left wing, but if they actually had to pass left-wing policies, that would piss off their corporate funders. Obviously this is a vast simplification, but I think the best example was Obama pushing for the ACA instead of NHS. You can argue that it would have been hard to get NHS through, but it would have solved the problems that are even bigger now than they were 10 years ago. No way big pharma was going to allow that. There's too much money to be made when you sell insurance and then allow your customers to die anyway.
Nah Lemmy would be bitching about Biden not cancelling student loan debt despite Trump judges being the ones blocking it.
“Status quo” wasn’t enough to get people off their asses. Well, we’re about to see the opposite of that. Congrats.
Biden gave it a shot, got stymied, and walked away. Hey, a weak attempt is better than nothing, but we sure would have liked to see him try harder. I don't blame him for failing, but he certainly didn't give it his all.
Walked away? He tried multiple angles to get at the same end goal, most of which are/were held up in court.
Nah I think a lot of people would also be gloating, like obviously fuck trump, Kamala would have been better, they'd be gloating too
I mean not to feed into the us vs. them mentality, but... it's kind of obvious we're better than them on a spiritual level at this point....
they would be celebrating the money
money makes humans forget about humanity
a nation of killers might be the one thing worse than a nation of slavers though they tend to work together
I don’t know why you would celebrate something that was never promised and unlikely to happen.
