International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Hamas officials
International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Hamas officials
The International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his former defense minister and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity over the war in Gaza and the October attacks that triggered Israel’s offensive in the Palest
Summary
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.
The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.
Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.
Hamas also criticized the decision.
The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.
It's about fucking time! This should've happened much earlier.
Anf of course Netanyahu is hiding behind the discrimination card.
God they really just play the antisemitism card for everything
It's the only card they have
I remember when the people who said 'if you call everything Nazism, then what are you going to do when the real Nazis arrive' ended up being Nazis themselves... who did not shy away from calling their opposition fascist and Nazis even when they were wearing Swastikas on them.
Zionists are the same. The exact same. They are remarkably antisemitic (look up the founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzl. The guy was a RAGING antisemite!) but at the same time throw that accusation left and right at anything that even remotely disapproves of their actions.
With Netanyahu calling them antisemetic
Why do they always call justified responses antisemetic? Like I swear, due to this, I have heard a resurgence of people believing that "Hitler was right in his actions" and "he was trying to save us", even though that's clearly a stupid take but I digress.
ICC:
"We acknowledge that Hamas' attacks against civilians are crimes too."Netanyahu and Hamas in unison:
"What do you mean, 'crimes too'?"Meanwhile, the slaughter goes on because nobody wants to risk open conflict with the US and they* have a raging hard-on for genocidal imperialism.
*Not all of them, of course, but enough are either complicit or at least complacent that it remains a tenable political position.
Its the one silver lining about trump--he'll destroy US economic, military and political power and in doing that remove the zionists shield from consequences.
It's funny how the criminal immediatelly implied that it's a Jewish characteristic to be a criminal like him, just like he and his minions (which includes the American Administration) have been continuously implying that commiting all manner of horrid crimes, from theft and rape all the way to Genocide and purposeful child mass murder, is a Jewish chacteristic.
Like the last bunch of Nazis, these people aren't merelly immoral, they're so depraved, disgusting and devoid of even the most basic humanity that they'll slander millions of those they claim to defend in order to avoid the consequences of acting like the most extreme and out of control psychopath (far beyond mere Serial Murderer and well into Hitler-level).
Exactly. Israel's actions is Palestine make Jews everywhere less safe.
Isn't it a little anti-semetic to hold the guilty responsible for crimes the whole world knows they did? /s
Just predicting the media spin that's all
It’s quite frankly just like Nazi germany (when they held the Nazis accountable for their war crimes and genocide).
Finally the only sensible response to what is happening in Israel.
Arrest the leaders on both sides!
It seems that the Hamas leader they've listed the warrant for might already be dead though. I guess if he turns up less dead than expected in a member country they can nab him with the warrant
I remember saying this should be done at the start of the conflict and I was called a genocide loving Nazi for saying Hamas was just as bad. Hamas leaders are wealthy old men who live in luxury outside of Gaza
This has happened already, it's now the 2nd time they've issued the warrent.
This is just the first time the story was allowed through the US media wall
I heard that Bibi stubbed his toe on an antisemetic table this morning.
Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan’s request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.
Antisemitism does manifest itself in both casual and systematic forms. The region-specific component is also important.
However, claims regarding antisemitism from the Israeli government are increasingly becoming a "reverse confirmation" of sorts. One could almost argue that if they call something antisemitic, chances are it's actually not and may even be the correct course of action (clear cut cases notwithstanding).
As a Jew, I'm becoming desensitized to the word "antisemitic." Even my Israeli cousins overuse the word and can't explain to me how this kind of shit is antisemitism beyond "Hamas wants to kill us."
Decrying the persecution of crimes against humanity as antisemitic is quite something. It begs the question then, what these people see inherently Semitic about perpetrating these crimes.
The blatant misuse of this term is actually very harmful to Jews around the world, since calls of those actually suffering from anti-Jewish sentiment are not taken seriously anymore.
"Chef overcooked my burger. Antisemite." -Uncle Leo -Jerry Seinfeld
It's the local variant of fake news.
https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism
That's the definition they use, so anything you say against the State they see as being against the ethnicity, which doesn't make sense.
Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.
I wasn't aware he was a stand up comedian. I mean, I always knew he was a clown.
TLDR: it’s not antisemitic, it’s just anti-Bibi.
It's like how if some random dipshit harms someone else they go "Oh, so it's okay to hate men? I'm a man so I'm the bad guy?"
When no, you're the one who assalted someone. What you are doesn't define actions.
What region-specific component are you referring to? I’m genuinely asking, not being argumentative. I completely agree that holding Netanyahu accountable for war crimes is not antisemitism, let alone the ICC charging leaders on both sides of the conflict.
I am looking at it from a more abstract, generic perspective.
When you lose the right to freely travel, work, live in your country. There is going to be a lot of animosity around this. I don't think it is fair to purely attribute this to a discriminatory attitude.
Cue "ICC is antisemitic", just like the ICJ, the UN, every human rights organisation, the Special Rapporteur, independent journalists, protestors etc etc.
Antisemitism and victimhood are the only cards left for Zio fascists to play with.
The original Nazis would always claim that they represented the Arian Race and that any criticism of them was "against the Arian Race" and the Zionists, a Neue Nazi group, do the same only using a different ethnicity.
This is far from the only way in which these Neue Nazis are the same as the original Nazis.
Zio fascists
*nazis
''How are you today?'' ''That's an antisemitic question.''
That's what the constant cry wolf has lead to. The absurd has become real.
Anyone putting netanyahu and hamas in the same category, gets it.
The US and others were fine with it when they issued a warrant for Putin, I'm sure they'll be on board for this as well, right?
This makes us look weak and hypocritical to the rest of the world. Stop the unjust war of aggression and annexation! No wait, I meant the other one. This one is a-OK.
This is part of the collapse of American soft power around the world.
One thing that many people in America have already learned the hard way, is that conservative Americans could not care less about being hypocritical. In fact, I'm convinced that some see it as a plus because while it means nothing to them, it always seems to "trigger the libs".
He's really fucking up the antisemitic thing for the rest of us. The wolf crier isn't a monolith and he's diluting an important communication tool.
They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.
It goes waaaay back
https://www.972mag.com/icc-israel-surveillance-investigation/
Those warrants aren't worth the paper they're printed on, but it's still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.
Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!
Not exactly. The ratifying countries are bound by contract to arrest them. Plus It's a serious issue not to do it, because this would delegitimize the ICC as an institution, which is not in the interest of most ratifying countries. So it essentially boils down to a choice between losing the court as a valuable weapon against war criminals or bad relations with Israel.
What happens after an arrest is another matter and I think that is where the real pressure would happen
Not really, if a group of spies got together and kidnapped him to a country that respects the ICC he would be arrested. Just like this
This is the correct call! A majority of Palestinians and Israeli do not want war. It’s a few bad apples on both sides and they should all be jailed.
As someone living in Israel, that's a nice thought but a fundamental misunderstanding of Israeli politics. The vast majority of Israelis not only support war but support a complete and total genocide of every Muslim in the middle east. Furthermore a very large amount of Israelis see the hostages as an acceptable loss if it means they can kill more Palestinian civilians. Its not "a few bad apples", Israel is a fundamentally rotten "nation" that only exists on genocide and war.
Israelis are largely in favor of it. Netanyahus approval has skyrocketed, when they launched the offensive on Lebanon and Israelis opposing the wars and occupation are increasingly targeted by the government and government affiliated "settler" terror groups. These terror groups have ramped up their pogroms in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and decent Israelis who get in their way are beaten while the IDF watches.
Genocide takes a lot more than a few bad apples making a whoopsie.
Make no mistake, this war is the culmination of multiple decades of extremist Israeli and Palestinian politics in which the worst possible human beings on both sides were propped up by a populace that has been blinded by decades of hate for the other.
This is what Netanyahu and Hamas have always wanted, and what they were always working towards.
The majority of Israelis do want war. They only want the hostages out more.
Israelis are terrorists who take part of the IDF to ensure the occupation of Palestine.
Of course, people like Haredi Jews and other minorities that don‘t take part of the IDF are innocent. But the rest are terrorists and should be treated as such. ✊
The Palestinian armed resistance is completely valid and it isn’t a „few bad apples“.
Haredis are innocent? Their vision for a the state of Israel is revanchist and purely Jewish. Their votes are squarely in a right-wing corner.
Kudos to the ICC and make sure they are cell mates. Damn shame it will not happen.
I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.
At least with America going full mask off as a force of evil, the rest of the world can stop waiting on us to do the right thing.
There is number of countries already said they would.
"The Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, and Spain all said they would meet their commitments and obligations regarding the Rome Statute and International Law."
Pretty sure if he ever sets foot in South America he'll be arrested
If Trump plans on doing everything he says he’s going to do he’s going to expend his political capital rather quickly, and likely meet more resistance than he may be able to handle, domestically and internationally.
International war crimes, mass deportations, curtailing the rights of queer people and women, deleting entire government departments, introducing tariffs. Also being in Russia’s pocket, then adding pressure from other big actors like China, Ukraine, and Iran into the mix. That’s a lot to juggle and many of America’s long-standing allies may no longer be willing to fully back the new mask off fascist regime.
Netanyahu may just become a liability.
Does anyone know how the dimwit lawn torch carrying maga bros square hatred of jews with backing of zionists? Do they just never speak of it? I have a hard time pictruring them sitting in a circle in front of a fire drinking bad domestic beer, talking about the nuances of politics or any sort of long term strategy. Maybe they just push it down and ignore it? Or maybe they hate brown and black skin more than white jewish skin?
For the maga leadership its obviously about money, but the voters?? Anyone have experience here?
Now do their enablers.
All I want for Christmas is Biden and Blinken in chains.
They couldn't arrest Bush when he invaded Iraq, they won't arrest the entire idea of "The leaders of North America and the European Union."
We can't arrest Putin, we won't get Bibi.
Oh for sure. I'm under no illusions about that. But they all deserve the stink of an ICC warrant.
Do they think nobody is going to replace them and resume the conflict?
Then why would we persecute anyone? Maybe give that take one more round of thought.
Not everyone we persecute is in a leadership position with high amounts of pressure from the population to do the things we're punishing them for.
Good news
Well the ICC won't let me be or let me be me so we'll just see. -- Benjamin Netanyahu
(again)
Finally... it was about time!
Finally
Shove em all in the same cell, add one vaguely sharp rock, leave them there indefinitely
What do rank and file military realize they have to start refusing certain orders?
When do the Americans cut off the supply of certain weapons?
When does the Israeli populace see that a radically new direction is needed to secure peaceful relations "from the river to the sea"?
America won't cut them off for at least 2 years.
America will never cut off the supply of weapons to Israel, as they are not only our most important ally in the Middle East, but also a key symbolic homeland for millions of Jewish Americans that happens to be under constant threat of attack and annihilation from multiple regional neighbors, including Iran.
People won't like to hear this, but Bernie Sanders could have been president in 2023 and he still would have sold weapons to Israel in the wake of the October 7th massacre.
The best you can realistically hope for is weapons sent under preconditions.
our most important ally in the Middle East
Israel causes no end of problems in the region and has nonstop for 80 years. They are a tremendous burden to us for very little gain. They have not helped in any of our middle east efforts. One of their key tenets is no foreign troops on their soil. We dont even resupply our ships there. It was a major event in 2016 when we resupplied a single ship there and it hasnt repeated. We have no shared airstrip and no operational capability centered out of there. We have a single joint owned radar station with a dozen men in it in the negev.
American fighters were not even allowed to land in Israel when they were defending Israel from Iranian missiles. They operated out of Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/10/us-f-16s-arrive-middle-east-israel-prepares-iran-strike
Israel is flatly not an important ally, much less the most important ally. Lebanon was an ally. Jordan is an ally, as is Turkey. Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Qatar are also key allies. The thing all our allies have in common is that they have a problem with Israel.
Better late than never, for all the good it will do...
How's that working out?
I mean it's done quite a lot to diplomatically isolate them, right? Putin couldn't go to South Africa for BRICS, he couldn't attend the G20 summit this week, and presumably lots of other trips he hasn't done that he would have otherwise intended to
In Israel's case, I expect this will be a pain for Netanyahu more than it has been for Putin, since the set of countries that are neither ICC signatories nor actively hostile to Israel is a pretty short list
The name of the game is sanctions. Russian can sustain itself under "nuclear" sanctions. Sanction Israel, and the comfortable lifestyle of illegal Lebensraum settlers will start to look rather unattractive.
He wasn't able to travel to Brazil for this reason. I'd say its working
One thing, why are the Hamas officials never named, and we never get their reaction? I'd really like I to be able to despise both side of that shit medal evenly.
They're in the article:
The court issued a warrant for Mohammed Deif, head of Hamas’ armed wing, over the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks that triggered Israel’s offensive in Gaza...Khan withdrew requests for warrants for two other senior Hamas figures, Yahya Sinwar and Ismail Haniyeh, who have both since been killed. Israel says it also killed Deif in an airstrike, but Hamas has never confirmed his death.
Hamas in a statement welcomed the warrants against Netanyahu and Gallant but made no mention of the one against Deif.
Thank you, I should have verified before commenting. It's still the feeling I get, that Hamas leadership is way less named than Netanyahu. If at least in the headlines.
One thing, why are the Hamas officials never named
they are always named.
If I ever saw this yahoo and the other yahoo putin, I would shub this yahoo up putin's arse. It's a little unlikely but that's the plan. And probably poke both thru with a cable, and I would give the cable a bunch of extra twists so they couldn't get out.
Hey look! Performative European bureaucratic theater that will amount to nothing. I think this is what people call "virtue signalling", no?
More than a year into this shit show chapter of an 80 year conflict, war criminals, authoritarians and genocidal maniacs on both sides, no mechanism to compel arrest or enforce anything, and the Hamas officials that were named are potentially already dead. I can't believe that people don't know empty political gestures tossing red meat when they see it... 🙄
Netanyahu should be a man and go face the ICC himself in response to this warrant. After all, if the facts show that he has acted within the various laws and conventions of war, then he has nothing to fear. He obviously won't however, nor will anyone bother to arrest him in the US or EU.