Anon wants American companies to make a good RPG

Anon baits people into recommending good RPGs

Fallout, Wasteland, The Elder Scrolls.
Also smaller games come to my mind, like Child of Light or South Park: The Stick Of Truth which are made by Ubisoft Montreal.

Yeah, "western RPGs" from a couple decades ago were mostly made in the US. Then Bethesda bought interplay and it all went to shit.

And thanks for reminding me of Child of Light, I've had it in my library for ages, installing it to my steam deck right now :)
You're never gonna believe this friend, but Montreal is actually in Canada.
- Still not Europe or Asia, innit?
- Fun fact Canada is in North America
Stick of truth was developed by Obsidian
- You're right it was only published by Ubi. The Fractured but Whole was developed by Ubisoft*
well... fallout, wasteland.

pillars of eternity? I don't know if americans made it, but it was pretty intensely american.
Fallout and TES are "alright" at most, and extremely boring theme parks at worst

Fallout? And I mean the Black Isle fallouts.

Speaking of Black Isle, they also did Planescape and Icewind Dale.

Also: Bioware made Baldur's Gate 1 and 2; they're Canadian not European. Unless they just mean 3.

And of course, the OG RPG: D&D. Pretty sure Gygax was American.

After 20 years you need to do something new. You can't live forverer on your legacy.
- Swiss person here:
  
  What's that supposed to mean?
  
  Are you trying to say we aren't recognized as the supreme military power in Europe anymore?
  
  Surely you're joking, right?!
Is Neverwinter nights American? That's a good one.
- NWN1 was from Bioware, NWN2 from Obsidian. Both are from the USA, but NWN2 is nearly 20 years old by now.
dont limit just to black isle fallouts lol

3 new vegas and 4 are great and even 76 is good
- 4 is not even remotely great it is genuinely awful 3 is fine I won't insult 3 I enjoyed it not as much as nv I loved nv but I enjoyed it it was good even but 4 is an insult
- Not even in the same league. Barely even RPGs. New Vegas is the best of them and it still pales in comparison.

Intentionally lists RPGs not made in US

"Why doesn't my list have RPGs made in the US?!?"

ಠ_ಠ

Elder scrolls, Fallout, Red Dead Redemption, and Mass Effect would all like a word

RDR isn't an RPG, it's an action-adventure game.

I concur on the rest.
- I don't think those genres are mutually exclusive. I haven't played RDR1 but RDR2 is definitely an Action-Adventure RPG. You level up Arthur's stats throughout the game and can choose different moral paths that affect the ending. That's playing a role.
- Isn't RDR exactly as much of an RPG as Mass Effect. Neither gives you any real control over the main story, though I guess Mass Effect makes you think you do better. The sidequests are about as open, and neither do you get to choose your character.
  
  I don't know if I do actually think RDR is an RPG, but that opinion is shared for Mass Effect, The Witcher, and so many others. They've taken the ability point systems from RPGs, but they're still action adventure games with RPG mechanics.

I'm gonna defend the Americans on this one.

Fallout and Elder Scrolls are two of the most obvious examples that could have been listed, but they weren't.

Last mainline TES game is a decade old and Fallout 4 is also nearing that decade. Meanwhile almost all games in OPs list have released in the last decade.

There's Obsidian but besides them I really can't come up with another good RPG studio from the US that has released a game in the last decade.
- So what you're saying is that Bethesda are RPG hipsters.
Anything ever made by black isle studios. This includes fallout 1 + 2.
also GTA
- GTA and RDR have zero decision making or conversation options or skill trees. They are open world action games that took some design notes from open world RPGs. But Rockstar is a British studio anyway.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mass Effect yet. Or Dragon Age, even with a picture of a cosplay of Morrigan in the OP.

BioWare is Canadian
- If Elden Ring is Canadian, and Witcher is European, then we can just call Bioware games North American
I thought that was the joke.

Pathfinder - Asia

Uhh, no? Paizo is an American company. Based in Redmond, Washington, according to Wikipedia.

I think they meant Owlcat Games, creators of Pahtfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous video games. They are based in Cyprus but their developers are all over the place from what I know (so it's more Europe-Asia kind of thing but I may be wrong)
- Honestly, everyone's developers are all over the place. Almost every studio hires contractors from wherever to do things as basic as spell checking to pathfinding to artwork. Hell, sometimes they outsource story writing too.
The post is clearly talking about video games. It is reasonable to conclude they are talking about the Pathfinder video games, which were not made by Paizo, but by Owlcat Games. Whether or not Cyprus is part of Asia is kind of debatable, but they are certainly not American.

It gets even worse when you know Europe and Asia are the same continent.

Errh, sort of.

It really depends on your definition of Continent. Most people would argue that Asia is a different continent.
- Our accepted definition of what a continent is sucks. Why is Europe considered a continent but India is not? Every argument for Europe being a separate continent applies even better to India.
  
  Europe just wanted to be special and controlled science at the time, change my mind.
- I feel like most people actually don't care that much about Continental Boundries to give an Argument either way.

Not including FF, Dragon Quest or Persona in Asian RPGs?? Blasphemy!

Yeah that's like saying "great Nintendo games like Splatoon". I mean i don't disagree, it's an imaginative game, but hello? Mario? Zelda?

Well, the Diablo series was quite good

was
- I blissfully remember getting my hands on the Hellfire expansion for the first one; I didn't even know it existed until my uncle gave it to me.
wasn't blizzard north canadian, though?
- When Canada makes good shit we just claim it as American. People rarely call us on it.
- I thought Canada's pride and glory was Eidos Montreal and now you're telling me Blizzard North was here too? Oh goodie!
- California IIRC.
WoW was pretty good, too. Maybe too good. It had my hyper focus for like 4 years. I wish I could get a tenth as into games now as I was into WoW about 20 years ago.

Wants good RPGs

lists Solasta, one of the mid-dest games I've have the neutrality of playing

Dungeons and Dragons

The OG RPG.
- yes but they said good.
- Exactly. All RPGs can trace their lineage back to Gygax.

Wasn’t Gary Gygax American?

Yeah, Americans created the RPG genre...

Is Rockstar US? I considered the red dead series a quite hellacious RPG. Is GTA an RPG?

Rockstar is a US company, but the developers of GTA are Rockstar North in the UK. They used to be their own company developing GTA, when they were bought by Rockstar.

Red Dead is definetly an american game though.
- Rockstar is a British company that has a studio in the US but they're not an American company. Rockstar North is their original studio.
I have not played Red Dead but GTA is definitely not an RPG. It's an action adventure and at least from what I've seen from the former I'd expect it to be the same.
- Red Dead is just GTA with horses and a way better story. Calling it an RPG is a massive stretch.

I was going to say Horizon Zero Dawn, but Guerilla Games is Dutch.

hzd isn't an rpg
- I'd say it's just barely an Action RPG. But there's no real decision making in the story, or even an attempt at it like Mass Effect, The Witcher, Cyberpunk.
- Other than the fact that it is. It's even got a skill tree and experience points...

I seriously can't tell if that's cosplay or video game screenshot

It'scosplay from dragon age origin
Cosplay, from a North American RPG that's a classic.
What game is it supposed to be?
- It's Morrigan from Dragon Age.
- no idea I don't play RPGs

Give me like 15 years.

There was once a game called Warcraft 3. I refuse to play the remake.

That's an RTS anyway.

Wit da SKALD reference

Grand theft auto.

But Rockstar are British. I know it is set in America, but Grand Theft Auto is by a British company.
- Hey maybe they're just trying to prove anons point more lmao
- Der, I'm dumb. Whoops.
and GTA is RPG since when?

America invented the entire RPG genre - thank you Steve and Dave (d&d). Anon isn't just wrong; he's a complete idiot.

Ameritards can't even handle being a country, let alone creating decent content.

The job market is such that we're too busy fighting over scrap metal and food like it's the aftermath of an apocalypse. We don't time for fucking game development
- Yeah game devs get paid so little here, they're the ones fighting the hardest over the scrap metal and food