“I’m not sure the public would stand for it,” he said. “I think it would be tough for the public to take. You know, at a certain point, there’s a breaking point.”
It won't work though. Remember how he asked for mass gatherings at his trial and it didn't happen?
January 6th required a huge number of Trump rallygoers from all over the country to mass in one place, for them to get fired up to commit violence by multiple speakers, for Trump himself to say that he personally was going to go with them to the Capitol, and for Trump to do virtually nothing about the insurrection for hours.
There might be lone wolf attacks here and there, but there won't be some great MAGA uprising.
There might be lone wolf attacks here and there, but there won't be some great MAGA uprising.
Even that could turn scary though. One lone wolf attack could inspire more and those inspire even more, eventually leading us to an American Years of Lead
The Trump base has shown us how insane they are before, I don't want to underestimate what they'll do next.
Stand for it?! He’s delusional. Most of “the public” wouldn’t only stand for it, they’d wait in line to buy tickets to see him escorted to prison. They’d but t-shirts.
Merchan will remain moderate. Prison is possible, but not probable for nonviolent class E felonies. The last thing he wants is to feed Trump’s attorneys argument for bias at appeal.
Part of sentencing is determined by the defendant’s character, and Merchan has already spoken against his interest in jailing a former President for violating the gag order. However, Trump has over a month to demonstrate his character prior to sentencing, and he’s not doing himself any favors in that department.
My guess is that they will give him a suspended sentence, but he will have to piss in a cup for the rest of the campaign, at least. It will be very interesting to see if Trump can get out of bed without his amphetamines.
Yeah, we know Trump has powerful connections and will be treated with far more leniency than the average person because instead of holding people with power to a higher standard we do the opposite.
That doesn't contradict the fact that it doesn't matter what Trump is good with when it comes to sentencing.
As a technically "first offender" they can argue that it shows obvious bias and get a favourable appeal result.
It plays to Putin and other autocrat propaganda. "See how the US actually is, we have the same democracy here" sort of thing.
Most importantly, it plays to his cult and to his ego, he gets to stoke dangerous things which very nearly almost worked last time (only thanks to Pence and the few cops who stood up to the mob.) and he gets a ton of attention from his cult for it.
Because it would help his martyrdom and his image as a victim, further “justifying” calls for violence and helping divide and disrupt our society to an even greater extent.
Honestly, I'm perfectly ok for him to go to jail for even a week. Then we would have already setup the foundation on how we would jail him in the future, indefinitely.
Rikers is a jail which means it houses three groups. Those are pretrial detainee, people convicted of misdemeanors (crimes punishable by up to a year), or people convicted of felonies (crimes punishable by more than a year) but who were sentenced to less than a year.
If he is sentenced to incarceration for over a year, Trump would go to one of New York's prisons. If under a year, he could go to a jail like Rikers.
I'm old enough to remember thinking how crazy it was that GW was somehow worse than Reagan...
Then trump showed up.
It seems like a forgone conclusion whoever is next will be worse. And I don't know why everyone else keeps acting like the issue with modern republicans is trump. trump is the symptom, it might be the symptom that kills us, but it's still a symptom.
So if you think trumps's VP will be one the shittiest people, just wait to see whoever runs as a Republican next.
It's been decades, we need to recognize this is a long term problem, and our solution needs to reflect that.
Constantly moving right, just drives the republicans further right to differentiate.
If Dems embraced progress, Republicans would run someone more moderate in an attempt to steal moderate voters. I don't think we'd lose as much as we do now, but even if we did the worst would be someone closer to Biden than trump. And with wins meaning something again, participation goes up. Which is why Dems would win more.
Essentially, never think republicans have reached rock bottom, you'll be constantly surprised. They can always go lower...
I 100% agree and have observed that myself. Whenever it’s like “oh thank god Hastert is gone” or “phew, finally rid of Boehner” they manage to find someone even worse.
Also, good point that Trump gets too much credit. He didn’t create this bizarre Republican psyche - he’s simply a perfect embodiment of their behavior.
We need to give McCain credit for refusing to be that guy. You can tell that, with Palin as a running mate, he gave in to some of the crazy demands, but in the end he was a decent person and would correct people saying Obama was a Muslim, which likely cost him in the campaign.
It would just be awful if he picks someone like that, which is a possibility. Bongino or some other complete asshole from conservative media. For instance he said Laura Loomer would make a great WH Press Secretary.
Guarentee you he gets a ghost twitter writer who just says what trump WOULD say. Doesn't even need communication with him. Just send general hate speech out into the base, and rile them up. Then when he gets out, act like he had people on the inside with him, helping him out, because they believed in his cause.
The news will pick up that it's not him when the jail itself investigates how he's tweeting, and watch him in real time as new tweets show up.
Doesn't matter.
He just will say those are lies, and it really was him. His base will eat it up.
The thing is that no matter who they pick as a ghost writer... it's going to be noticeably too coherent or thought out to really be him. His base won't buy it as easily.
Ok, sure. He lists his properties as private residences so give him the choice to travel between any of his properties but while under house arrest visitors must me excluded and go by the same rules as any other person visitor of granted access.
He'll get house arrest but he'll lose all his businesses.
The fun part is he doesn’t need to be okay with the punishments the court deems necessary. In fact, it’s better if he doesn’t like the outcome as it will dissuade him, possibly, from doing the same thing again. He got away with being a shitty commercial property developer because he never faced and repercussions. So he just kept doing it until he ruined his reputation with every contractor in the city.
For a moment I thought this was some clever word play so he could later say he was okay with jail and not Prison, but he is absolutely not that clever or precise in his vocabulary.