Conservatives want to bring back the smoking rooms in Tim Hortons ultimately, and fuck the planet.
Conservatives want to bring back the smoking rooms in Tim Hortons ultimately, and fuck the planet.
There are a lot of reasons to not bother going to Tim Horton's, and the lids on their cups is not one of them.
I do miss their old old cups with the wrinkly pull up things. They worked better if you punched them down on car trips.
From the blogto article linked by op:
He says that "After a couple of sips, it became soggy and started to stain. Thereafter, I could taste a few small lid pieces in the drink, which was like 'yuck.'"
Yep sounds like terrible design and Tim's cheapen out in the material. I've had non plastic caps that were much better than that.
You know what would bring us back to the good old days? A real ceramic mug you can use to sit down, drink it slowly and enjoy. But I haven't been to a Tim's in a while where the server would ask if I wanted a mug or to go. Maybe the lady would call that woke too?
Every Tim Horton's around here will give you a ceramic mug if you ask for it to stay, but the default is to go.
They have the paper lids in my city and they're really not bad. I hate Tim Horton's but I was actually impressed by the lids. They definitely hold together well
they should be called regressives
What do conservatives even want? Like just to set everything back centuries is all I can see. I've never seen one of them create or improve anything.
Conservative politicians want to be elected. And the way they want to do this is by stoking meaningless (and mean) culture war issues to keep their base a)angry and b) not focused on economic inequality caused by their donors.
To the Conservative mindset everything is a zero sum game.
Give rights to minorities, that’s taking rights away from white men.
Give restaurant patrons the right to dine in a smoke free environment, that’s taking away the rights of smokers
Increase the minimum wage, that’s devaluing the wages of everyone else
Probably the most telling in a US context is Medicare for all. Free health care devalues their paid healthcare. I mean healthcare is healthcare (sure some doctors are better than others) the only reason someone would be upset that other people could be entitled to the same healthcare as them, whilst costing themselves less, is because these people think they are more deserving of healthcare than other people.
Not centuries. It's more like they want to live inside a sitcom from the mid-20th century, where everyone is white and middle-class and living in a "traditional" male-led nuclear family that occupies a house in the suburbs, and pollution and its ilk aren't even worthy of mention.
Everything to be like when they were a kid. Uncomplicated, no real problems like nowadays with the wokes and the taxes
Conservatism varies tremendously by time and location, but I don't know if changing or improving is ever the point. Some combination of doing it the way it used to be done, hurting the right people, and supporting the existing social hierarchy go into the mix. There's also movements like libertarianism that tend to glom on to Conservatism, but done straight are a very different animal.
To be fair, progressive ideas can be bad sometimes too. Eugenics is a great example that all the cool forward-thinkers were into for a while. At least we try though...
They should be called narcissists, because their "conservative" beliefs shift to occupy precisely the space where they happen to live. If they personally benefit from the status quo, then they must defend the tradition. If they benefit from change, then it is a moral imperative that the world conform to their point of view. A rational person might call that hypocrisy, but it's not really anything more than selfishness.
The Regressive Cutservices Party.
As a filthy American, it’s sad to see standard-issue republiQan Southern Red State rhetoric in Canada. You guys deserve better.
Well we did have the trucker convoy here. A great many people who live in small towns or the northern parts of the country hate Trudeau. I am not a fan either but that's because I think he should be much more left and do a lot more for us,rather than being a craven centrist. But all Liberals (that's capital L Liberal) are. But conservatives here HATE him on a personal level and drive around with Fuck Trudeau flags on their obnoxious trucks.
We like our socialized medicine and services here, even conservatives, but that doesn't make them any less obnoxious.
Well that’s the danger - the conservatives here went full mask-off racist poor-haters which wasn’t as much of a surprise as their unbelievable lack of belief in anything.
No ideology, values, or any other mechanism holds them - not even science, which they pretend to believe in, when it suits them. The so-called ‘adults’ in the party have succumbed utterly to the cult. There are no rational leaders, only figureheads and capos.
It’s shameful and beyond pathetic, and I’d like to think Canada would never fall to such insanity, but the mechanism by which it was carried out (facebook, twitter, Qanon, convoys, right-wing news) are all the same. More power to you progressive Canadians. Hopefully you can weather it.
I've been saying for a long time that as a Canadian, you can predict the future. Just look across the border, and what you see down there will be arriving here in 10-15 years.
Pretty much, right?
When I think of Tim Hortons, I think of how I've seen the disappearance of reusable flatware and cutlery from such a large proportion of eating establishments, and the normalization of eating-in with exclusively single-use disposable stuff (usually plastic), in about two decades. Future generations will thank us /s. But it's those effing 'woke lids' that are the real problem /s. Also, who cares about Tim Hortons if you don't like it; it's not even Canadian. Do conservative voters just need a daily dose of misplaced resentment and rage to keep them going?
Why are they even putting the lids in their mouth to dissolve?
Paper straws do suck though.
Paper straws do suck though.
I'm in Toronto, and I believe the city has banned plastic straws. I think plastic straw bans tend to be harmfully distracting from the larger issues. (To be clear, I think we have a massive plastic pollution problem.)
I was in a Hawaiian cocktail bar in Toronto recently, where the drinks are made to be drunk with straws and half of the people at the table asked for a second straw halfway through their drinks as the paper straws had stopped working well
We should be selling and marketing bring-your-own reusable plastic straws, with a small washable traveling case and a cleaning brush, maybe 4-packs
I think that is a really American thing though. I have never been to a place that had plastic cutlery and single use flatware. Sure some oprn air kitchens and festivals and such. But there is not really a better option for that
I think that is a really American thing though. I have never been to a place that had plastic cutlery and single use flatware.
Interesting! Care to provide your province and urban/rural? I live in downtown Toronto and unless there's waiter-to-table service, there's nothing reusable except glassware in bars and potentially plastic cups for free water. Other Torontonians, please chime in if you've seen anything different. Most places don't ask "to stay or to go?" any more, or if they do the only difference is a bag
Do conservative voters just need a daily dose of misplaced resentment and rage to keep them going?
Yes. Conservative politics is (and always has been) the strategy of giving your followers someone to either fear, hate, look down on, or increasingly all three and then telling them repeatedly that they are the only party who can "fix" it. It's not about governing, it's about stoking anger and fear so that donors keep giving them money.
Pre-civil rights it was African Americans in the US and Indigenous people in Canada. Then it became homosexuals, then Mexicans, then migrants in general, then so-called "illegals" and refugees. Then 9-11 happened and it became Muslims. Then brown people in general. And now it's circled back around to LGBTQ+ and trans folk.
Pick your marginalized society of choice and insert it into the very same playbook that's always been used.
Little Pierre Poppinfresh isn't doing or saying anything that hasn't been Conservative policy from the very beginning. It's just that thanks to the Trump effect, he no longer has to be subtle about it like his predecessors did.
Great insight, thanks for sharing! You said things better than I could have
That’s a joke, making fun of the person saying it was better before
Also Tim’s is a burger place so I am not sure why people are shocked that they bring in food
I thought that person was just the run of the mill social media idiot until I saw her name on an anti abortion list.
Crazy politics has gotten so bad in Canada people will vote to pay this person 210k a year.
Did I miss the introduction of paper lids somehow? I know I don't go to timmies that often, but what?
Apparently so: https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2024/04/ontario-plastic-free-coffee-lids-tim-hortons/. I never go there so I don't know when.
No, this giant corporation was never "for the little guy", and bad pizza is not some elitist thing.
I have it on good authority that pizza is ‘woke’ mostly because it’s ‘ethnic’ food.
Ah, the good old days of WASP supremacy, before all those romance-language-speaking Catholics arrived in Canada.
Wait...
smoking rooms are still common in Korea. they're quite nice. they are walled off so you don't have to smell it
I've seen them done well in airports. They have additional extraction and filtering. They are also kept at a negative pressure, so the smoke doesn't roll out whenever someone opens the door.
I've no issues with what people want to put into their bodies. I only take offence when others are forced to be exposed to it.
Yeah, it seems fine honestly when I'm in places where they're common. I appreciate how we have less substance use than they do on other continents, though, and making it inconvenient might have something to do with it.
What's up with people misspelling "return" with a v?
If I were to take a guess, it’ll have to do with the conservative obsession with Ancient Rome.
Man thinking about the Roman empire clock now reset to 0 (again).
Yup. See also the rampant use of ancient busts as profile pics. For some reason they are obsessed with the penis-graffiti-drawing, buttsex-enjoying, poetry-writing ancient Romans (and Greeks), when I'm pretty sure a typical aristocrat of the time would find them boorish and incredibly uneducated simpletons, barely fit to till a field.
Including the three genders?
Old people without glasses, maybe?
Both these posts sound like satire
The MP saying this nonsense is serious, idiot that she is.
Is she tongue fucking that paper lid that it dissolved?
Probably all the action she ever gets.
That's certified Idiots on Facebook quality! Like plastic lids and smoking sections are going to save Tim Hortons' enshittification.
Indeed. What about returning to Tims being a Canadian company and serving actual freshly made donuts? And as others have said, why not bring back mugs? And maybe sell travel mugs from the counter and allow discounted refills, and do away with travel lids altogether? It’s not like those plastic single use lids were a part of the original Tim’s experience.
While we’re at it, we can close down the drive through; that’s not original Tim’s either.
Wars, genocide, people displaces, weaponized disinformation, cost of living, the housing crisis, climate change. All small potatoes to a conservative, who is taking a stand on,checks notes, so called "woke" coffee lids.
Conservatives ruin literally everything. I defy a conservative to tell me what they have contributed to the betterment of society.
Travel mugs are a thing, and they don't come with paper lids.
You even save a little money with them.