About the only way we're going to actually have a democracy is if they consistently lose elections. That's going to mean volunteering, donating, and actually turning out to vote
The comment directly below this one reads like propaganda straight from Moscow. I'm very glad to see it down-voted. Blaming blatant authoritarianism and extremely dangerous rhetoric on "old people" seems like a pretty obvious diversion from the actual culprits: the entire Republican party who is sleepwalking into a legit second coup attempt. They're losing political power and have abandoned the idea of democracy. The fact that they're unable or unwilling to drown this Nazi rhetoric in the bathtub speaks volumes. They are openly supporting authoritarianism. Not "old people". Republicans.
Posobiec, who helped popularize the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, appeared at CPAC’s opening day on Wednesday. He spoke during a panel moderated by former White House adviser and white supremacist Steve Bannon.
They’re not sending their brightest, folks. Many such examples.
Seriously though, I didn’t have a pizzagate guy openly advocating fascism at CPAC on my doomsday bingo card, yet here we are.
"We didn’t get all the way there on January 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this, right here,” he said, gesturing to the crowd and holding up his fist.
Isn't it the way to get some alphabet agency on your ass? Dude doesn't only speak Jan 6 was a coup, he encourage people to do it again.
It's unbelievable that someone says this AND it is found to far exceed the speech and debate clause AND is held to account.
But then, most authoritarian leaders are initially I stalled under cheers of their own population. And mostly people know what they are voting for. The MAGA crowd seems to just be more open about it.
Just recently Indonesia voted for a guy who literally murdered his fellow countrymen as head of a special forces unit. But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance. I hope they will be alright.
The speech and debate clause only covers members of Congress and Senators, and only for their debates in those respective houses. It dates back to when traveling to Washington might take several days, through several states, and they didn't want members to be subject to arrest if some random Mayor or Sheriff didn't like what they said.
This guy is not a member of Congress and can't use that as a shield.
FBI would be the ones with jurisdiction, and they are mostly right wing. There's never been a director of the FBI that wasn't registered Republican. That should tell you just how likely they are to take this threat seriously.
Well, if he was, say, a Black progressive saying such things, it would be something to get an alphabet agency looking into it, maybe even a visit from an agency, and actually cancelled nearly everywhere.
Republicans are criminals, cheaters, liars and traitors.
And I have proof, just watch and listen to everything they do.
They HATE America and want to rule it with a sick 2000 year old genocidal religion.
Always vote for the candidate to does things to help Americans, and chooses human rights over fascist control laws.
I mean, Christianity is still less genocidal than Islam. Not that this is a huge achievement.
And they don't seem very knowledgeable about it.
EDIT: Somebody disagrees that Christianity is less genocidal than Islam? Something-something demonstratively not racist, so uncritically supportive of the biggest group of "brown people" you've heard of? Though I'd add that historically it has been similarly genocidal, what I said is fact only in our time.
It's absolutely not. This is your post 9/11 bias showing. Islam, historically has been less genocidal than Christianity.
Much of the colonization of Africa, the Americas, and other regions was done in the name of Christianity, through that there were many genocides of indigenous peoples. Many wars were fought over the flavor of Christianity after the reformation.
Religion, in general, causes people to do vile things. But Christianity has more blood on its hands than Islam.
There are many different flavors of Christianity just like there are many different flavors of Islam. Each flavor has its own set of doctrines that they apply to themselves. None of those different flavors can claim to be the true flavor. Defining a religion by just one of its flavors is misguided and wrong.
Just to jump back in and be more unpopular... ALL Abrahamic religions are evolved from each other. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the holy trinity.
Parts of the Torah are in the Old Testament and the Koran.
People will be shocked that the stories are slightly edited versions of the same line of mythology.
None of them are "better". They all promote control and hatred.
None of these religions are helping people or society. They are only helping themselves to money, power, control and a larger cult following.
No one needs religion. Humanity only needs water, food, shelter.
I remember someone studying Koran vs. "the" bible and showing that even the text is more genocidal than the Koran. This was on NPR some number of years ago; pretty easy to find. Of course, apologists for xtianity and/or "Judeo-Xtian values" (lol), will not want to hear this.
Of course, all three Abrahamic religions are tied to "the" bible, so I'm not sure it's all that relevant, but....definitely a lot of xtians need to know.
The second amendment tells you what it's for - militias. But what are militias for? The constitution tells us that too.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: [The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
So, no, the second amendment is about a system to suppress insurrections, not commit them. You've been lied to.
We have revolutions every 2-4 years. Insurrections are not about the will of the people, they are about subverting the will of the people.
I used to get scared to talk about weed on the phone. You don't disparage a public figure with a hint of violence for fear...
How TF is this not enough to lock these motherfuckers up? This is the God damn United States of America and these treasonists are threatening our government. Fuck "soft Democrats" - this isn't about policy. These criminals are promising a coup against our democracy. Why aren't they in jail? I'm seriously asking. Where the fuck is law enforcement????
There are a bunch of Supreme Court rulings which basically said the KKK can advocate for violence in general so long as they don't lay out specifics. That's what these folks hide behind
They want to take power and do whatever they want with no consequences or input from the other half of the country, and they don't care if it will only last a year or two before they realize that now that they gave all that power to corrupt overlords they have no ability to revoke it as soon as leadership starts doing things they don't like.
I still can't understand how the political left could accept that their opponents dub themselves "right". Do they not understand that "right" also means "correct"? It's a marketing failure from the get go, regardless of etymology. We should start calling the political right something different, like "wrong". Or "party of assholes". Change my view.
I'll take him at his word. I don't doubt he'd follow through with what he's saying.
But also the headline sucks. He has a heavy sarcasm to his voice like he's mocking liberal's and the media's portrayal of him and "rabid cheers" isn't how I would describe the sound of the reaction in the video.
Yeah this is the same kind of thing they did at another one of these events in the past with the whole "Ladies and gentlemen, we are all domestic terrorists." thing. It was meant as a joke to make fun of what the liberals were saying but at the same time it wasn't entirely inaccurate.
edit: never mind, that is his CPAC speech where he promises to destroy to democracy
edit: People only seem to be reporting on the clip linked in the article that was of the panel in that conference room. There doesn't seem to be a recording of the entire panel online currently.
Basically MAGA Republicans showing their true faces. They know that they don't have much of a future without cheating or dropping democracy altogether.
If American Republicans can't win using democracy, then they'll just show their true colours and go full on fascist. Nothing new here. We saw it with the 2020 Capital Hill riot and we'll definitely see it if Trump is elected again, except it could become temporarily permanent.
The Republican Party and the con movement is nothing more than a fifth column in this country, if not just outright terrorists. And every serious journalist should state that fact as often as possible.
Doesn't democracy allow any useless corrupt politician to come to power as long as they are popular? Like, it's the power of the people, by the people, for the people, but the people are retared? /S
"Rabid applause" lol what fucking BS. Anyone who watches that video can see what an absolute blatant lie that is.
FFS, it was a bad joke that mostly fell flat. Republicans pose real threats to our democracy and way of life, no reason to trump up some BS like this. All that does is open the door to for something Republicans can latch on to in order to dismiss actual valid concerns.
Keep in mind that this guy constantly downplays Jan 6th, and claims it was actually the feds. He believes it is a false flag, which is why this is obviously a joke.
I think I've figured out why Republicans are so dogshit at comedy. They think a "joke" is what you retroactively call something you meant in earnest as soon as you get pushback.
This guy has spent a ton of time claiming that Jan 6th was a false flag and it was all a set up by the feds. He's a fucking total douche and I hate defending him, but this was obviously meant as a joke, poking fun at the people claiming they are trying to destroy democracy, rather than "saying the quiet part out loud."
And this is the thing about comedy: it's likely a test to see if you share the same values. You don't share the same values as Republicans, which is why you don't find their humor funny. . .and vice versa.
It's maddening to see it to be honest... This is the exact same thing as "we're all domestic terrorists." They're "poking fun" at what everyone says about them. They are literally trolling us, these kinds of people sit back and rub their nipples in intense pleasure as they read the left freaking out about what they said. They live for that kind of shit. For those that play video games: these are griefers, they live to make your day worse and there's no easier way than to use cheap words to rustle your jimmies.
No matter how shitty our SCOUTS is right now, it's shitty on behalf of major corporations, they aren't going to just dismiss the constitution completely just because some morons say they want a theocracy so they can impose their will on others as if it's what God wanted... They're going to impose their will, but they can't just snap their fingers and make the constitution disappear.
You can root for the rebels all you want. But Palpatine lived a long life and controlled most of the galaxy with his empire. I am rooting for the empire.
According to Disney, the point is that fighting fascism is pointless because even if you succeed, whatever you build in its place is doomed to collapse within a few decades. Might as well just let the Empire win.
Such an idea is impossible anyways, because to ensure a benevolent society you need to incorporate the wide range of viewpoints and experiences of the people within it, something a dictatorship, by definition, precludes.
His own second in command threw his evil bitch ass down an access shaft to his death while a united opposition got together and blew up his doomsday moon sized space collosus.