About two-thirds of Canadians surveyed this month said American democracy cannot survive another four years of Donald Trump in the White House, and about half said the United States is on the way to becoming an authoritarian state, a poll released on Monday said. The November U.S. election is likel...
OTTAWA (Reuters) - About two-thirds of Canadians surveyed this month said American democracy cannot survive another four years of Donald Trump in the White House, and about half said the United States is on the way to becoming an authoritarian state, a poll released on Monday said.
The November U.S. election is likely to pit President Joe Biden against Trump, who is the clear frontrunner to win the Republican nomination as voting in the presidential primary race kicks off in Iowa on Monday.
Sixty-four percent of respondents in the Angus Reid Institute poll of 1,510 Canadians said they agreed with the statement: "U.S. democracy cannot survive another four years of Donald Trump." Twenty-eight percent disagreed.
The Jan. 6, 2021 attack on Capitol Hill by Trump supporters seeking to block certification of Biden's 2020 election win shocked many Canadians, and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau publicly blamed Trump for inciting the mob.
Trump has vowed if elected again to punish his political enemies, and he has drawn criticism for using increasingly authoritarian language.
Three times as many Canadians say a Biden victory would be better for Canada's economy (53%) than a Trump win (18%), according to the poll which was seen exclusively by Reuters. The poll, taken between Jan. 9-11, had a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points
Well, yeah. You'd have to be an absolute fucking idiot to say otherwise. The dude tried an insurrection. He routinely violated American democracy. It's almost like if you elect a wanna be dictator he's gonna, you know, become a dictator
Dealing with Republicans is like talking to the dumb computer scientist in a Star Trek plot, "I know the last fifteen of these we tried betrayed us and killed millions, but we should totally give control of all our ships and weapons to my new AI program... Hm? Oh, yes, it is a new uniform, thank you for noticing. Yeah, my tailor said it matched the color of my blood."
I always saw the Vulcans as Republicans, in all honesty.
They are aggressively xenophobic and use 'logic' as an excuse to berate, bash, ignore, and forget anything that they don't like. They claim to be bowing to ideals set by their predecessors but their predecessor would likely be rolling in their grave at what they've been doing. They don't make any real advancement or go further, they're happy to stay exactly where they're at with the status quo. They abhor anything that's different and see giving any sort of space to that difference as a gracious gift to be given and one that the different thing better be grateful for. They lord themselves high and mighty above everyone else but routinely miss the big picture and end up putting themselves into positions of failure due to it. They put far too much into what are mostly superstitious and religious beliefs and those beliefs often impact everyone. When they have a child with someone who isn't part of their group, they try to raise the child in such a way that the child is permanently torn and confused. When teenagers are confused, frightened and upset instead of allowing them to embrace these feelings and figure out how to control them, they instead root out all compassion and hints of emotion to further what they think is the best.
About 40M A-oks. Only about 12% of Americans. Unfortunately, about half of the voting public. If your county has mandatory voting, thank your lucky stars.
Every arrest is politically orchestrated. That is the nature of a public sector police force.
What shields Trump isn't politics but power. He's got armies of angry old white guys - many of whom occupy the very offices that would be charged with his arrest, prosecution, and imprisonment - and Biden's gang is terrified that if they were to actually demand his siezer they would be the ones in handcuffs by the end.
I came to say exactly that. They are perfectly aware that they are going to overthrow democracy and it's not clear to me that they don't do it regardless of whether they win or lose.
They also are unfortunately on a path towards putting Conservatives in government here in Canada.
Not quite. The conservatives aren't enough to put the CPC in government. They need folks who'd otherwise vote for one of the other parties in order to win. So in a way, it's some of the rest of us who would put the conservatives in office.
I'm starting to see a lot of poor coworkers think PP would do a better job than Trudeau, and as usual dont realise they can vote NDP or Green if the Liberals are pissing them off...
Wait I know I saw this article like two months ago. Is that what you Canadians have been up to the past 8 weeks? Just sitting there in a constant state of worry?
Yep. Can confirm as well. And a weaker US democracy would create a power vaccuum in NATO that would very likely be exploited with the power dynamics in play on the global scale in recent years.
Me too Canada. Me too. I don't suppose we could convince you to move down here with Trudeau and we kick trump and his supporters up there with your conservatives?
We're about to elect our own mini Trump, so like usual, we act like we're better than the states, but just wait a decade to follow in their footsteps. At least we have Gun Control and Universal Healthcare tho...
Poilievre is hardly a mini-Trump. One of the things that made Trump pretty unique is that he was elected President without ever having held any other political office. Poilievre, OTOH, has never had a non-political job.
If there's any Canadian politician who's Trumpish, it would probably be Rob Ford. Son of a wealthy family, scandal after scandal in office, etc.
We took the same bullshit apologetic approach after the Civil War with “reconstruction” and look where we are now: rotten to the core with racists, sexists and xenophobes.
For the most part, historians view Andrew Johnson as the worst possible person to have served as President at the end of the American Civil War. Because of his gross incompetence in federal office and his incredible miscalculation of the extent of public support for his policies, Johnson is judged as a great failure in making a satisfying and just peace. He is viewed to have been a rigid, dictatorial racist who was unable to compromise or to accept a political reality at odds with his own ideas. Instead of forging a compromise between Radical Republicans and moderates, his actions united the opposition against him. His bullheaded opposition to the Freedmen's Bureau Bill, the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and the Fourteenth Amendment eliminated all hope of using presidential authority to effect further compromises favorable to his position. In the end, Johnson did more to extend the period of national strife than he did to heal the wounds of war.
On top of my joy at another opportunity to mention what a shitbird Johnson was, a shittyness we are still feeling, IMO, the bolded bit sounds a lot like another President I can think of.
Remember, one of our national past times is watching as everything around us collapses while we shake each other's hands for at least not being AS bad as the states
I am not a fan of this idea, but Canada needs nukes ASAP. If Trump wins , we need a nuclear deterrent. I'm afraid we'll suffer the same fate of Ukraine.
I'd rather be wrong with nukes then right without them.
That's a bit overkill. America will plunge into a civil war long before Canada will need nukes. Many people won't suffer more of Trump's degeneration of the constitution.
Well we can't stand another 4 years of genocide joe. A man that has no problems in funding a genocidal dirt army that kill innocent men, woman, and children before our very eyes (media)
It's ok, the continent's gonna split up the middle pretty soon from all the fracking, there ain't gonna be a country there in the first place pretty soon.
Canada is not that much better off than the US politically (though to be sure they are better off). They too have a Trumpy conservative candidate who is projected to win in an election. Their left/center-left parties are fractured facing off a unified right. They also suffer from a non-representative electoral system (still mad at Trudeau for failing to keep his promise there). And one big factor in how this is possible is that they can look down at the US and say "at least we're not THAT bad" when things get worse for them.
So yeah, I do think they would benefit from spending some more time looking at their own problems.
With how the Conservative Party has been importing the GOP's brand of reactionary politics over the last few years, I'd say the current radicalisation of our southern neighbour (who is also by far our largest trading partner and with whom we share the world's longest land border) is one of Canada's many problems. Quite a big one at that.
After seeing all the Canadian flags flying on the back up pick up trucks during covid, I could not possibly agree more. The conservative osmosis bleeding up into Canada, especially Alberta, is quite concerning.
If that sociopathological narcissist gets in, it's going to be everyone's problem - US, Canada, Mexico, Europe, the Middle East. He is utterly unhinged. In fact, the only people who'll be really pleased are Putin and Kim.