White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes
White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes
“There should be legislation, obviously, to deal with this issue.”
cross-posted from: https://mbin.grits.dev/m/mews/t/22301
White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes
Guys? I'm gonna go ahead and say this: You get one warning: Do not post porn here, especially links to non-consensual AI-generated porn of real people. That's gross, it's inappropriate for the community, it's almost certainly against Lemmy.world's TOS, and anyone who posts it after this warning gets a perma-ban.
Seriously. Ew.
Yes, the human body is gross, sex is unnatural and we should all be ashamed.Especially if it's all fake pixels. The only "ew" here is you.
Dude, non-consensual porn posted in an inappropriate community is the problem here, not sex or the human body.
Nobody cares until someone rich is impacted. Revenge porn has been circulating on platforms uninhibited for many years, but the second it happens to a major celebrity suddenly there's a rush to do something about it.
What?
This isn't revenge porn, it's fakes of celebrities.
Something that was done for decades, and one of the biggest parts of early reddit. So it's not "the second" either.
The only thing that's changed is people are generating it with AI.
The ones made without AI (that have been made for decades) are a lot more realistic and a lot more explicit. It just takes skill and time, which is why people were only doing it for celebrities.
The danger of AI is any random person could take some pictures off social media and make explicit images. The technology isn't there yet, but it won't take much longer
I think it's more about the abject danger that unregulated AI replication of noteworthy figures represents to basically everything
Also, revenge porn is illegal in I think every state but South Carolina and even then it might have been banned since I saw that stat
While I agree with the sentiment that rich people's issues have more influence.
How Many States Have Revenge Porn Laws?
All states, excluding Massachusetts and South Carolina, have separate statutes specifically related to revenge porn. It's important to note, however, that a person may still be prosecuted for revenge porn under other statutes in those two states.
https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/revenge-porn-laws-by-state.html
You think it wasn't celebrities first? The issue here is specifically Taylor Swift.
the second it happens to a major celebrity suddenly there's a rush to do something about it.
Bruh this been happening to celebrities for decades.
What a braindead take. Both the US and many other intl countries have enacted AI safety and regulation rules, this is an extension of that effort. The idea is to set a precedent for this kind of behavior. They are also looking into how AI is being used for election interference like having AI Biden tell people not to vote.
Everybody cares, just because it’s not all in place day 0 doesn’t mean nobody does
This wasn't a problem until the rich white girl got it. Now we must do... something. Let's try panic!
-The Whitehouse, probably.
Honestly, I kind of don't even care. If that's what it takes to get people to realize that it's a serious problem, cool. I mean, it's aggravating, but at least now something might actually happen that helps protect people who aren't megastars.
The only thing that could possibly happen to protect people from this is to make AI illegal. That would be (a) impossible to enforce without draconian decrease in individual freedom, like keeping people stuffed in crates of packing foam instead of free to move around, and (b) absolutely horrible if it were successfully enforced.
AI is cheaper and easier to proliferate than any drug. We have not succeeded in controlling drugs, despite their physical requirements of mass and volume making them visible in reality, a feature AI does not share.
The attempt to control AI can and will destroy all our freedoms if we let it. Again, the only way to control something so ephemeral as computation is to massively restrict all freedom.
White House used Panic!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
It absolutely was a problem before and it’s not because Taylor is white. Revenge porn laws aren’t new and AI legislation has been in the works before this popped off.
You also gonna say nobody cared about election interference until an AI recording of Biden told people not to vote?
Just because you weren’t aware doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening
Do you want more AI gens of nude Taylor Swift? Because that's how you get more AI gens of nude Taylor Swift.
This will be interesting.
How to write legislation to stop AI nudes but not photo shopping or art? I am not at all sure it can be done. And even if it can, will it withstand a courtroom free speech test?
I think it's not feasible to stop or control it, for several reasons -
- People are motivated to consume ai porn
- There is no barrier to creating it
- There is no cost to create it
- There are multiple generations of people who have shared the source material needed to create it.
We joke about rule 34 right, if you can think of it there is porn of it. It's now pretty straightforward to fulfil the second part of that, irrespective as to the thing you thought of. Those pics of your granddsd in his 20s in a navy uniform? Your high school yearbook picture? Six shots of your younger sister shared by an aunt on Facebook? Those are just as consumable by ai as tay tay is.
You write legislation that bans all three because there is no difference between generating, photoshopping or drawing lewds of someone without their consent.
Banning this on an individual level would be impossible, so you let the platforms that host it get sued.
We have the technology to detect if an image is NSFW and if it includes a celebrity. Twitter is letting this happen on purpose.
The images spread across X in particular on Wednesday night, with one hitting 45 million views before being taken down. The platform was slow to respond, with the post staying up for around 17 hours.
It's hard to pretend it wasn't reported by Taylors fans many time during this time and the moderators didn't know about this image half an hour after it was posted.
If the image is even slightly convincing, it's essentially just defamation with digital impersonation thrown in. Yeah, that might catch photoshop in its net, but you'd need to be a DAMN good artist to get caught in it as well.
So what level is slightly convincing?
What about people that happen to look like someone famous?
What level of accuracy is necessary?
If I label some random blonde ai generated porn “Taylor Slow”, does that count?
They are both blonde after all.
Surely this should be a priority.
Well, it's not really just about Swift. There are probably many other people that are going through this. Not every person who generates nudes of someone else is going to make it to the news, after all.
I could see this being a problem in highschools as really mean pranks. That is not good. There are a million other ways I could see fake nudes being used against someone.
If someone spread pictures of me naked: 1. I would be flattered and 2. Really ask why someone wants to see me naked in the first place.
If anything, just an extension of any slander(?) laws would work. It's going to be extremely hard to enforce any law though, so there is that.
However, how long have revenge porn laws been a thing? Were they ever really a thing?
i remember a headline from a few weeks back, this is already happening in schools. its really not about swift
Ya, it fucking should be
This is what the white house is concerned about........ Fuck them. Like there is so much worse going on in America but oh no one person has ai fake porn images heaven forbid!
The White House is capable of having a position on more than one issue at a time. There also doesn't seem to be a particular bill they are touting, so this seems to be more of a "This is messed up. Congress should do something about it" situation than "We're dropping everything to deal with this" one.
The White House is capable of having a position on more than one issue at a time.
Doubt.
Nice job reading the article, any one of these articles, to actually get context and not just react to headlines.
People are asking about Swift. The government isn't buddying up to her specifically. Swift is only the most famous face of this issue with very focused growth on this.
Wait.. They want to stop only Taylor Swift AI fakes? Not every AI fake representing a real person???
Y'all need to read the article and stop rage baiting. It's literally a click away.
"Legislation needs to be passed to protect people from fake sexual images generated by AI, the White House said this afternoon."
Quick! Stock up on Katy Perry fakes before those get banned aswell
U.S. government be like:
Thousands of deep fakes of poor people: I sleep.
Some deep fakes of some privileged Hollywood elite: R E A L S H I T.
But actually not
AI legislation has been in the works both in the US and intl long before this Taylor shit, this is just an extension of those efforts.
It’s not about rich white people, it’s about serious potential to harm.
Potential harm like election interference: https://www.wired.com/story/biden-robocall-deepfake-danger/
I'd much rather that we do nothing, let it proliferate to the point where nobody trusts nudes at all any more.
I really hope your gf makes you watch ai porn of her with your best friend.
You really need healthier relationships in your life I think; my wife would have no reason to do such a thing.
but then it's legal to create pornography of anybody, who consents or not. which well, isn't exactly good. so it honestly should be made law.
That's perfect. It should be legal. Making pornography of someone illegal is just a different scale of grey from say...making drawing muhammad illegal, etc.
I can already hire an artist to make me some porn of ...I dunno...Obama or something. Why should that be illegal just because someone does it with AI instead?
Taylor is just trying to distract us from her jet emissions again, just like her new PR relationship with that Kelce guy was almost certainly to distract us from her dating that Matty Healy dude that openly said he enjoys porn that brutalizes black women (and also from her jet emissions).
She's not stupid. She's a billionaire very aware of how news cycles work.
Oh look, we've got this generations moral panic figured.
Is the law going to explicitly protect her and no one else?
Click on the link, read the article, answer your own question
NEVAR!
It’s called setting a precedent bud.
Notice how there wasn't any of this kind of effort to stop AI when pedos were making CP with it? Or when indie artists were being plagiarized by it?
It's a victimless crime. I mean, making it illegal doesn't stop people from doing it.
I think once it gets to a point that nobody trusts AI porn, like how we don't trust photoshopped porn, then nobody would care anymore.
I hope you are joking. The target here is very much a victim. I don't want people fucking up my reputation just cus.
People here are forgetting there is an entire industry full of models and actors (and producers and studios etc) whose sole purpose is to create nude images for money.
The porn industry. You know, the one that basically decides how we all consume media. This type of problem that Swift is having well be an enormous issue for porn.
It has to be stopped. It's not just about one popular celebrity.
The sad reality for commercial porn lovers like yourself is the industry is doomed anyway, when we start fixing the poverty problem and transitioning from a greed based society it'll be very hard to coerce women into forms of work like this. If we had a good UBI and housing program where people have access to resources to improve themselves and their material situation there aren't going to be many women that choose to get fucked in the ass for several unsexy hours so the crew can film from all the right angles.
You should probably join with the campaign to stop ai completely if you want to maintain a society where enough women find themselves desperate enough to do porn that it can sustain the industry - imagine if automation efficiency gains enabled localized manufacturing from locally sourced materials thus significantly lowering the cost of living for all! Even women in third world countries wouldn't be poor enough to need to join the commercial porn industry.
Yes sir if there's one industry we need to protect it's the one that uses poor and substance addicted women as sex objects to be exploited for capitalistic gain.
Dear world, please stop making fakes kthx.
We need to change society so people don't want to make celebrity deep fakes.
What do you propose? Keep in mind, we can't even change society so people don't constantly try to kill each other over nothing.
Yes that’s the ticket. If our laws are unenforceable, simply mold humanity until they aren’t.
Naw
People need to understand that AI have to be strongly regulated. Every new piece of tech need a regulation or fit in a existing regulation.
What we see for decades in form of reacting afterwards isn't working at all. It's medication which doesn't really work. We should prevent these.
If reacting afterwards isn’t working, reacting beforehand definitely isn’t going to work.
Man, I hope this doesn't distract Biden from his important work pretending to dislike the genocide in Palestine that he is materially supporting!
White House? More like a crack house
devastating