I saw it. I enjoyed it a lot. Pandora's seas look even more stunning than the forest did in the first movie. Loved meeting the Omatikaya clan and Jake's new family (Spider and Kiri too, of course). Also, Quaritch being reborn as a Na'vi made him a much scarier and more interesting antagonist than he was. Can't wait to see what Cameron has in store for us in the sequels.
I saw it, it was shit, specially because I remember the first. The plot of the 2 is horrible, even comparing with first that was generic.
The story moves around the fact that humans want to get rid of blue ppl from a place to explore mineral resources, the leadr of the blues go away, instead of massacre the blue ppl they go for the leader in another place (???)
And half of the movie is just kids doing shit to help the plot show the water, this movie was a long and slow torture.
Holy shit do these movies need to edited down. Watched the latest one a few weeks ago and man was it 90 minutes of plot stretched into a 3 hour film. Felt like I was just watching James Cameron fellate himself on screen. Oh yeah Jimmy, such a beautiful and imaginative world. Shame it's wasted on the blandest characters and most simplistic themes imaginable.
If I remember correctly, Sarge (no idea wtf his name is) had a vendetta and the folks not in his direct circle of troops were hesitant to allow his pursuit of Jake.
Don't mistake this as some defense of perfect writing, it wasn't my favorite or anything, but I do think that was talked about.
I heard many people mention it. I think mostly high schoolers (I work in education)? Probably the same people who watch anything that's trending news. People I know who are actually old enough to see the original in theatres mostly seemed uninterested.
I mean the Na'vi are an infantilized hodgepodge of several shallow stereotypes of indigenous people precision designed to be sexy so the lowest common denominator sympathizes with them. The commenter may be referring to that.
At a certain point, his success and money is just self-sustaining. He could release a video of him shitting and it would make half a billion domestic. Like, there are at least 3 more Avatar movies coming. Terminator was an actual cultural phenomenon that people can remember the names of all of the characters and the plot, and yet it only did a fraction of the numbers Avatar does. Explain that.
The sequel is literally "the exact same movie as the first one, but this time with water (and bonus animal cruelty)"
I actually enjoyed the first one, but the second movie added nothing of value and cheapened everything that happened in the first one (in that literally no one gives a shit about unobtanium anymore)
Edit: Curious as to what the downvoters are taking issue with about my comment. Nothing wrong with liking the movie, but you have to admit the plot was basically identical to the first one, just with new characters and a different setting
Me being charitable: if you enjoyed the first you are most likely going to enjoy the second. If you are over the age of 12 and have seen more than 8 movies in your life you are probably not going to enjoy it.
This is precisely it. Avatar had originally the exact same problem that the Way of the Water has now. They're tech demos. Interesting, pretty, they move people to see what's what on the theater. But, offer close to nothing emotionally or culturally resonant. It's like a generic roller-coaster, you show up, enjoy the ride, then go get some fries having nothing deeper to say about the experience because the experience doesn't offer anything deep. It doesn't mean the movies are bad or that they weren't enjoyable, that's why they made so much money. But there's no conversation to have around them except to remark on how much they cost to make, or how did the CGI looked like or whether other studios will use the tech invented for this movie on other movies. Plot, characters and symbolism are shallow pools. Specially to an audience that is sick and tired of mega blockbuster sequels.
My wife and I started watching the second avatar and we turned it off about 90 minutes in, just couldn't be bothered to care or watch it any more. And we never finished it. What a piece of crap
Watched it in IMAX 3d with my kid. It ruled, so much fun to watch. Will never watch it again though, and certainly never at home. That defeats the entire purpose.
So it may have taken 13 years to come back with a sequel that no one asked for and no one expected. But at least he gave us something. Unlike a certain South African director that shall remain nameless...3 years my ass...
And no character arcs for anyone. Well except for Quarich, he was literally the only reason to see the movie and even his character was boring as shit.
it's up to five films total, now. the remaining three with tentative release dates stretching from 2025 to 2031. cameron has a plan for a further two more but disney hasn't committed past the fifth one---yet
I feel like there was a good movie in Avatar 2 but a lot of the scenes looked like they didn't render them fully. The FPS changes felt random. If they'd done ALL action in 48 and ALL dialogue in 24 it wouldn't have been as bad.
The scenes of the kids rescuing the parents were so gorgeous. Stunning. But compare that to the scene of the boat jumping and crashing? Insane how shitty it looked.
I've always called bullshit on the second movie making that much damn money. There's no way. Not nearly that many people cared about it at all, I seriously think somebody faked that attendance.
Im apparently the only person on the face of mother earth who genuinely liked the first movie.. I did, no really. But the second one literally had nothing of interest in it. It looked the same, sounded the same, had the same characters and all that, but the movie when nowhere for 3 hours. I dont think I can ever sit through it again.
Um... I wasn't aware that it was humanly possible to have a 12 pack. I didn't know that humans even have that many muscles on the front of their abdomen.
Not only that but they can be emotionally sensitive and also enjoy musical theatre, cooking, fashion, shopping for haberdashery and possess a refined sense style!