I get banned from Reddit for "suggesting violence" by stating Elon Musk's assets should be liquidated, meanwhile:
I get banned from Reddit for "suggesting violence" by stating Elon Musk's assets should be liquidated, meanwhile:
Because it's seen as violence to do anything that negatively impacts the wealthy despite their daily economic violence against everyone else in society. This is why they call the Tesla boycott "illegal".
Their violence is a lot more than economic... Making poor people lived the way they do is a lot more than just economics.
Very true
LMAO that's some jordan peterson shit.
ANOTHER prick with connections to Russia, btw.
funny they have interview each other before, plus shapiro?
My 10 year old account without previous infractions was banned for saying the rich don't have the resources to protect themselves in the event of a revolution lol
The quote is not wrong, however, Elon is neither harmless nor peaceful. He's dangerous and a violent fascist
Ofc it's wrong. You can be peaceful and harmless.
Musk is a moron.
Edit: The more I think about it, the wrong-er/stupider it gets.
Lol a friend of mine got banned for posting a picture of a guillotine and referencing billionaires. The broligarchy has gone full gloves off wrt threats to their hegemony
After 12 years, and nearly a million karma, i was permabanned right after HitlerPig was inaugurated, for repeating an opinion that i have stated many times. Nobody ever said a word until HitlerPig was in office, then suddenly I was permabanned. I came over to Lemmy, only to find i wasn't alone.
I suspect the reason is because Ohanion wamts to buy TikTok, and he knows that HitlerPig will be making the decision personally, based on who smooches his ass, follows his orders, and pays the biggest bribe. So as a show of good faith, he abandons Reddit's doctrine of Free Speech.
Love seeing all the new accounts in here!
Reddit is complicit with the facist takeover of wetsern democracy. I got banned from there for saying "the only good nazi is a dead nazi"
spez is in love with nazi musk.
Its funny because I remember when the republicans and trumpers would all join together and attack any form on censorship and used that as a launching pad for attacking the left. And these attacks built this momentum that eventually resulted in my grandmother talking about how the left is pro censorship and must be stopped. Like how is grandma hearing about this shit. Like there was no room to give an inch.
But I feel like there isn't that same energy on the left. Like instead we all just look at this and go "huh, that's a bummer. They're stupid"
also any attempts to respond or report will get you astroturfed or banned, bya pro-right wing mod, and now reddit.
Exactly, they fucking had so much momentum and energy they actively worked to harass subs to add more mods and who happened to be ready, fucking right wing trolls
I was permabanned for "Making threats of violence" when I suggested a hypothetical scenario when people were talking about US/Russia/Ukraine affairs, that if a US President suddenly not only betrayed a friendly victim of an invasion and switched to giving direct aid to the aggressor when public opinon of that aggressor is in the toilet, that the US may end up with a dead president. (and this was pre-election)
I dont care that it happened anymore, because judging from the way things have gone, if that didnt get me banned, something else would have.
Reddit is captured, and even if it wasnt, the only thing its good for is the comedy/hobby sections.
everything else is just dumpster fires like the news and politics communities, or the freakshows you see in relationship advice, AmItheAsshole, AmIOverreacting, etc. and all the bad advice that gets given to them as well..
alot of those am i the a-hole are fake stories, if not all of them. anything you see on the front page is considered compromised subreddit.
People should be leaving Reddit. They are poor stewards of our content for innumerable reasons. Go back to forums. Go to Lemmy. The key thing is that we should not have centralized arbiters of our discussions online.
We can't let billionaires own the town hall if we plan on having honest conversations. I am glad I finally found this place, and wish I would have left reddit earlier.
Deleted reddit today, just starting to figure out Lemmy. Could not stand the hive mind anymore
I have had a much better time on Lemmy, but I'm kind of the target audience in a few ways, so I'm biased. But I do think less harmful, more productive discussion is more likely to happen on this platform, I feel more comfortable discussing and less likely to be called slurs or called out (rather than called in which is undeniably more effective, and coincidentally feels much more common on Lemmy), and I feel like I've actually found folks I could see myself working with in some capacity, such as a project to help others patch up their data vulnerabilities, for a simplified example of an idea I'm considering.
Welcome btw :)
Aye welcome to Lemmy! :) Happy to see you here
I just joined recently and was lurking until I saw your comment. Figured I'd join in :)
Lemmy still have mods. My comment regarding muskrat mental healt issues ("next step is suicide, please") was deleted. So don't fool yourself, when lemmy gets as much popularity as reddit, it will turn into the same kind of pos
The point is that you can move elsewhere without losing access. There is no central control
Indeed. I deleted my reddit account recently. I like it better here anyways. The pace is slower and the people seem more reasonable here too. My stress levels have decreased significantly since I left Meta and Reddit and that is at once wonderful and scary. Social media is a cancer.
I think there will be a mass exodus from reddit in the coming years. The site is compromised and the censorship is out of control.
not all at once, but a gradual decline in non-botted, troll accounts. since reddits mostly bots anyways,. as long as politics, and news subs getting much traffic people will be addicted to the site.
People should be leaving Reddit. They are poor stewards of our content for innumerable reasons.
Their rando-bans and content and word restrictions are fundamental flaws with the platform.
thier extremely sensitive banning parameters are absurd, cross-banning for posting in a sub that they dont like, reporting other people gets you banned,
Getting banned from reddit is doing yourself a favor. Leave that site and avoid looking back when possible. Trash site.
I see this as him saying there's an open invitation for Luigi to meet with him,.if there was a willing participant.
musk has his human shield X-A2E with him.
I’ve been really pushing the limit on reddit recently to see if I get banned.
Maybe it’s an llm or something, I have not gotten banned yet for saying stuff like “This is a test. Luigi is a god. Shoot all the billionaires and eat the rich. Throw Molotovs at Tesla shops” And so on.
Nothing yet.
I’m not making a point here, just contributing some data. My account is 4 years old, with about 1k karma.
It's almost like the person who wrote that text in the photo didn't actually understand what any of the words they were saying meant. Like actually. lol
I've been told that musk didn't come up with that quote himself. I didn't look further into it, but it's likely that the person who originally wrote it understood what they were talking about, and musk just thought it sounded cool. Hell, I think it sounds cool, might use it in a villainous monologue or some shit.
I totally agree. What a load of bullshit.
Agreed, unless you're capable of great violence you're weak. When you see a tyrant, a capitalist, or a cop do you sit by or do you fight for peace? Thats why every pacist should be willing to punch Muskrat and any other tyrant right in their fascist face.
I got my second ban from saying "Burning peoples cars who bought them because they wanted to help the environment is not helpful, and Elon already got paid for those anyway. Don't really give a shit if you burn the dealerships but we can do better than this" now I am here, lol
it is working though, since its being done globally, if its done locally on only 1 area, and 1 instance, yea thats ineffective.
I have no idea what I did, and they didn't tell me.
They've also been banning accounts for liking comments about Green Mario doing nothing wrong. It's about the closest thing to thought crime I've ever seen. (PS Green Mario did nothing wrong)
I don't mean this as an attack at all, but isn't calling Luigi "Green Mario" a way to comply with the wired reddit cencorship?
We are on Lemmy, you can speak freely here.
Or did something just go over my head?
Whether or not they were being ironic, we HAVE to stop capitulating to corporations deciding how we speak and what we can and can't talk about. They successfully turned our own social messaging into a justification to block out conversations about issues that are actually affecting us.
(No, to the chud about to cry about being censored for spreading misinformation about vaccines, that doesn't go against corporate incentives, that goes against reason and knowledge, there's a difference and if you can't tell, you will when you get older.)
Maybe people were actually saying "Green Mario" and not Luigi.
Agreed, you can refer to him by name here lol. Or Saint Luigi if you prefer ;)
He absolutely did something wrong, he got caught.
And I felt his manifesto was not very well written.
Elon does not deserve to reference dark souls.
Imagine being handed the black knight's halberd, with the stats to wield it, before asylum demon‽
That is fucking Elon!
elon musk got a subreddit banned, because of "percieved threats"
The world needs to forcefully liquidate the wealth of all billionaires and perpetually redistribe that excess wealth so nobody can ever be rich again.
The rich that push back need to be labled as dangerous terrorists that are a threat to our species, and will need to be put down like rabid dogs.
They sentenced a person to death for 12 billion dollar bank fraud in Vietnam. I feel like their culture has the right idea.
"The world" is a convenient way to say "somebody else with a gun".
This kind of thing is never done peacefully. So, if you're going to advocate for violence, at least be honest about the fact that you're looking for someone else to perpetrate violence on your behalf because you're too much of a coward to do it yourself.
I have a gun and I would do it if I didn't have anything to lose and cared about my fellow man that much.
But no I'm not gonna save the world for you because you are a little bitch
No, I'm all for doing it but I'm tired of liberal cowards talking about Ghandi and saying "you first, chief!"
Wow I thought I was reading one of my own posts. Greetings, comrade!
We don't need to redistribute the wealth. Destroying it would work just fine.
purge planet episode of rick and morty(end of the episode)
So Luigi is peaceful then right, so why did the police go after him?
Violence is a double edged sword. It can easily swing the other way. Elon might be misjudging how that sword is balanced.
judging by the spine of the left, i don't think he anything to fear.
“I’m peaceful because I am capable of kicking your ass” has true mall ninja energy.
“you studied humanity [and made friends] while I studied the blade”
I remember reading self-defense writings by Marc MacYoung (who is a fascist mind you, but he is very good at martial arts and understanding criminal dynamics) and the first ever time I heard the 'better a monster who can control it, than a sheep who is not capable of violence' or that effect, and he ripped that entire saying a new one. He said how once the violent beast in someone is built up, it simply won't be easy to control and will fuck you up. There is simply no way around it. Criminals, abusers, and assholes whom people want nothing to do with and people who spend countless nights in jail for petty shit are all the actual 'warriors in a garden' come to life.
Also the whole thing is shit. During ww1 and ww2 the US had a pathetic military at the start, but when the war got going they still outfought the Nazis and Imperial Japanese who were fully and completely into the whole permanent warrior mentality.
That does not disprove the quote though. It just meant that the the US made itself capable of more violence thats like picking up a weapon or learning how to fight. There is nothing wrong with the quote the issue is that its said by a idiotic man baby whose capability to violence is entirely tied to unearned privilege.
Ironically, what Musk posted is perfectly acceptable ( in and of itself, ignoring the context of the person who is saying it ) since violence or the threat of violence is sometimes necessary to prevent things getting worse. For example, "Ukraine should be helped to defend itself" is a call for violence.
Which is why it's such a bullshit excuse to ban speech for that reason alone. I got banned for suggesting France might help out the USA by shipping over any surplus guillotines. I'm sure they would have no issue at all if I were enthusiastically advocating genocide. Never mind, I needed a push to make the move to Lemmy ; )
The line is state sponsored violence, generally. Likely with a little bias on what state is on the giving and receiving ends of said violence. Thats the rule at least so far as I can tell, at least.
I think you're right, but that's even more concerning. A fully fascist take on what is acceptable speech.
My ban from reddit was 100% related to calling for the arrest and judicial execution of netenyahu. Which is not an unreasonable thing to say given that he is nothing more than a modern Hitler.
I will take it back. Netenyahu should not be tried at all in any court. But simply tied up, have the charges read against him, and promptly shot through the head at point blank range.
Eastern ex-ukraine should be helped to defend itself from fascist Banderites.
That gets you banned from Reddit, or some mild criticism of the Palestinian genocide.
The vile calls for violence and racist Russophobia on there could stay on there.
Not a peep from the hypocrites then.
Now that the other part of the US regime controls Reddit they suddenly wake up and care about free speech.
Why am I not surprised?
Got my ban yesterday for expressing my displeasure with Danielle Smith. Reddit has sold out
My 15 year old account got banned last week, too. On one hand it kinda sucks, but on the other hand it feels good to get out of that site's echo chamber. Reddit is really circling the drain.
I had my 13 year old account also busted up due to that last summer.
Here’s my new thing.
All the people with critical thinking skills are leaving in droves. Leaving a massive bot farm authoritarian echo chamber in its wake.
As far as they’re concerned we’re the problem and it solved itself.
Smith is such a fucking joke.. I grew up in Southern Alberta, I'll never ever return.
So why isn't Elon Musk banned then?
Rules for thee not for me.
Because it is a post to an entirely different social media site.
This is the same kind of thing the 19 year old high school dropout with two kids he doesn’t have custody of posts on Facebook. Like “the devil whispered in my ear you can’t handle the storm and i said i am storm”
I would like to never see this image again.
Honestly the worst thing about this is that he has the confidence to be as big of a douche as he is looking like this..
Most people need to be supermodels to be as intensely unattractive in literally every other way as he is..
But then he’s not appealing to the general population, he’s appealing to.. well not regular human people…
"No, John. You are the demons."
Exactly the kind of guy who detonates his rented Cybertruck at the Trump Vegas Hotel because he's mad at the Woke
I was banned for harassment. I followed 6 accounts that posted tons of misinformation about elons nazi salute.
They’d defend him at all cost, call everyone else sheep, “Roman salute”, he’s autistic, you’re such a n idiot for hating on him. Posted still frame images of anyone with raised hands and claimed them to be identical to nazi boy Elon.
I got a notification every time they posted something to a sub I frequented. I would comment their recent post history and how their most extreme lies in defense of Elon.
Reddit said that was considered harassment. Not what those accounts did, but my action to their posts and comments. Spez is such a fucking spineless cunt.
got in trouble for 'liquidated'. Secret word list code for violence. Filters used to be useful and just replace the offending text.
Welcome to the world of bot moderation without any human to put it into context.
facebook is over-run. have to visit for family. try not to say much. never know what will trigger it. links to fedi get rejected as spam, so i post more links
Says the pussy who backed down from Zuckerberg cuz his mom told him to
It's good to be the king.
He doesn't have to be the one actually inflicting the violence on others, but with his power and influence he is capable of great violence by making others carry it out in his name.
Fucking billionaires... :/
Fuck reddit.
Arguing for the appropriation of billionaires' assets is not violence.
But it hurts their feelings 😢
oh no! Anyway...
How would you rewrite this so that it's less deuchbag and more accurate?
Getting banned from Reddit is Reddit doing you a favor.
its a badge of honor, i also see people using more sophisticated methods to evade thier bans like of fans also in that mindset.
What a great fat wet lettuce of a human. He's only capable of paying other people to do his dirty work.
No.
Elon's mother stopped him having that cage fight with Mark Zuckerberg because of his bad back. That wasn't his fault.
musk wouldnt win against an android that knows bjj anyways. and he had TRUMP shill in an infomercial for him because of teslas falling sales.
that is so much worse 😂
He can't even play games of simulated violence without someone playing his character for him
The oligarchy owns 90% of social media so it's no surprise
You're wording it as if we shouldn't be outraged anyways.
Personally, since I've been banned from Reddit and faslcebook (a long time ago) and am no longer able to interact but still view: I've gained the ability to spot the bots and shills and see through the brain rot. This enables me to better teach my children on how to avoid it.
It's actually a blessing in disguise.
Be as outraged as you want but at the end of the day social media is a business and they've chosen to no longer do business with you.
If anything, be outraged at all the other shit the oligarchy are planning to do.
#stonerthoughts
This should show Americans how billionaires perceive "peaceful protests".
He is such a teenager. It's embarrassing.
God, what an insufferable Nazi cunt.
That makes no sense. You can totally call yourself peaceful if you are peaceful.
Who doesn't want to be harmless? Who would want to cause harm????
You're just not alpha enough to understand. Real men beat their wives
Hey, I can beat my wife, sometimes. Like I have won many games of Catan over the years.
Ban Elon Musk then??? Sick of reading abt Reddit bending over backwards to defend him & Trump
reddit sustains itself on reposting X post, and truth social posts, it probably would lose alot of users if people actually stop posting those. X is being supported by reddit indirectly.
I don't think they are defending them. Reddit has changed their behaviour to keep from becoming the focus of the US administration. The same way all those who donated to Trumps inauguration. It's about survival. That being said, it makes Reddit irrelevant.
when did Lemmy become the "I got banned from reddit" frontpage?
ffs people, STOP GOING THERE. Stop thinking about it. It's a shithole url. Get over it.
This sub, the one you are currently participating in by commenting on it, is titled “Reddit”…
yeah, and I'll block it, but you do realize, people who aren't subscribed still see trending on the front page right?
and I stick to my premise: you're here, leave that shit behind. have better standards. encourage those other communities to migrate over if you must but dwelling on spez's folly is just... bleh. no one should waste their time on it.
That’s gotta be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.
The crux of fascism is making your base paranoid. Make them believe all their murder is done out of self defense. If they would not kill all those other people, others would kill them.
The perfect example is the paranoid ethnostate in the middle east.
Sorry, but I agree with this one. Not the "great" violence part, but yeah. If you are not capable of inflicting violence, you are not making a choice. You have no choice but to be harmless.
We used to say this a good bit in r/liberalgunowners, along the lines of, "I am a peaceful man, but that does not make me harmless." You would have a hella time pushing me hard enough to draw, but I have the choice if it comes to that.
This notion is exactly why conservatives think they can run roughshod over us. They see us as harmless little twerps that couldn't fight back if our life depended on it.
Yeah i don't post anymore since reddit turned into 1984
where have you been for the last decade?
It was regime controlled garbage for a long time, now they suddenly complain.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/jessica-ashooh-reddit-national-security-state-plant/277639/
The irony here is that violence is a necessary action when the bourgeoisie (Billionaires) leaves the working class no other option. But what he's saying is that state violence is justified to maintain the status quo.
Billionaires are not bourgeoisle. Bourgeoisie means "middle class". When Lenin targeted the bourgeosie he was targeting the middle class, not the billionaires.
You seem to be confusing the meaning of "middle class" of bourgeoisie. This did not refer to what we think of today as "middle class". This was in reference to a pre-revolutionary fuedal societies like Tsarist Russia. The "Upper class" being the structures of the monarch. The middle class being the bourgeoisie (the capital owning class). And the lowest class the proletariat (working class).
Obviously when we use bourgeoisie today we do not have a Monarchy. So it is still referring to the capitalist class. Revolutions were fought against monarchs that were replaced by the bourgeoisie (capitalist class). Lenin believed that instead of having a revolution to capitalism from fuedalism, that Russia could transition from a fuedal to socialist society and skip the rule of the bourgeoisie.
Lenin was not "targeting" what we think of today as "the middle class". If someone told you that without explaining the above history they were either lying or ignorant.
Billionaires are by definition Bourgeoisie as their wealth is earned by ownership of the means of production and not from a wage as workers are. That's why people like me still use the term "Bourgeoisie" today specifically to avoid confusion with what "middle class" means today. The bourgeoisie is a well defined term by Marxist-Leninist to mean "the capitalist class".
Elon isn't capable of anything resembling violence. He's a skinny fat pussy.
There's nothing skinny about him. He's regular fat
I meant his arms are skinny and his body is fat.
I can think of at least one part of Elon that is skinny, but I really don't want to think about his dick. 🤮
He might be able to fall on a small child and crush them with that grotesque torso of his.
Economic violence by being the world’s largest parasite.
The banhammer is pounded quite randomly over there.
What do you mean by Elon Musk’s assets should be liquidated?
Also, Reddit and X have very different moderating policies.
The peace in peaceful is not of the "peace and war" kind. It's of the "peace and quiet" kind.
Important distinction.
That Mangione fellow, what a peaceful guy.
Elon's gonna get shot one day
This feeds into the right-wing fantasy that they're super tough warriors. You see a lot of literature and fictional TV aimed in this direction.
It's kind of like the white savior complex but instead of saving some victimized minority, they're saving weaker and more helpless individuals in their own society. But all the military hero returns home and confronts nasty biker gang or evil drug dealers and kicks their ass without when trying. It all reinforced their world view.
Fucker obviously doesn't have cats.
Cats are a good litmus test.
Apart from all the other bullshit rightfully called out below, this makes an illogical implication. Being the smart autistic superbrain Melon claims to be, it's surprising he doesn't see that. Or maybe not, because in reality he's just a sad ass who is too scared of just going to therapy.
If: Not being capable of violence => Not being able to call yourself peaceful
Then: Being able to call yourself peaceful => Being capable of violence
But not: Being capable of violence => Being able to call yourself peaceful
Someone should post that text to reddit, see what happens.
Also, if you didn't already think there was going to be violence, now you should.
We have to stop being surprised at this behavior and start expecting it and rejecting it, on sight.
It's a true statement.
Also Elon, " Mom, Mark is being mean to me again." It's ok lil Elon, she says. You are funnier and more handsome.
Is it just me or are other people giving fewer and fewer fucks about why somebody got banned on reddit, or anything else that happens on reddit?
I'm loathe to defend Reddit's moderation decision but my experience you can never trust the person being banned to explain why they were banned.
I agree - except for the time I got banned...
but my experience you can never trust the person being banned to explain why they were banned.
It almost doesn't matter though because we know rando-bans are a common thing on reddit. Just because some are getting legit bans does not mean that there are not many others getting rando-bans.
This isn’t /shittyphilosophy or some sort of personal mantra, this is signaling what he thinks of those who do not engage in violence against him. He’s simultaneously calling out everyone for being weak and not challenging him and more importantly to himself implying he is strong because of that lack of resistance.
I am worried that this could be bait. Elon can see that the entire world is turning on him, but if violence escalates then Trump could use it as justification to declare Martial law.
Bring it
It's more why should you respect and be patient with someone who can't do a thing against you if you aren't? Say you met someone on the street and they decided to start insulting you. The natural response is to punch them in the face to ensure they don't insult you further; except if they are stronger or have some other reason for you to respect them and put up with their bullshit (ex. Elders, martial arts sensei, some kind of community leader, etc.).
The response to a peaceful protest is similar. So long as they don't insult one's honor or get in the way they don't get a punch in the face, except if they wield enough political clout. You don't have power to be peaceful unless you can fight back.
Oh fucking hell he's a megalomaniac he's awful!!! Horrible man. How the fuck can reddit justify this shit? How has EVERYONE not left?
Receiving a permanent ban from Reddit was worth it.
This guy has so much power over the United States and so many people are okay with it and some even support it.
George Orwell entered the chat.
I like that this could mean multiple completely different things depending on what part of George Orwells writing it's referring to.
I think we need to show Musk how peaceful we've been and how far from harmless we are. Let's give him a very personal, intimate lesson.
Man, what a fucking loser lmfao.
And you're just a cunt, Elon.
What the hell even is this?
The only reason I still have a Reddit account is to leave comments telling people to leave Reddit and join Lemmy. I just find posts on or near the front page that are complaining about Reddit and leave the same comment every time.
Really? Fuck that shit. Good thing I deleted my reddit account. I technically have one that I just use for porn. But I sure as hell am not posting anything with that shit.
Well they do have a point. Having strength isn't the same thing as using it. Most have the ability to beat another human to a pulp but instead use their words and other forms of conflict resolution. So to extend that logic one isn't peaceful if one doesn't have the power not to be; that is one isn't restraining themselves from being violent and exercising benevolence and patience but rather being forced to be tolerant of others bullshit because they can't do anything about it. It's like is your chastity being tested more in a monestary or a whorehouse?
That's how they get you, with a nugget of truth that in your context is reasonable and in theirs is explicitly unreasonable. The idea that one can't choose peace if they have no choice is an old one and philosophers have been thinking about it for ages. There's nothing wrong with the idea. What's wrong is that in the context of the alt right they imagine themselves as John Rambo and use nonsense like this as wank material when they're advocating for (or doing) violence. It's a story they tell to infantilize and invalidate the left. If we're all babies who couldn't even choose violence if we wanted then they should make decisions for us, right? Including the decision to kill us.
Funny thing is that the left got most of the rights and protections that people of every stripe benefit from through outright violence. Strikes and protests and all that are the compromise, remember.
Can we stop talking about Moscow-Musk please? My lemmy feed is even more depressing from normal at the moment.
Im capable of violence and im gonna use it on any fascists face when i see one
If Musk was ever left alone without a security entourage and a private army that he pays for with tax payer dollars he’s stolen, he’d quickly learn how violently he’d be put down like a rabid dog.
He’s only tough because he can hide behind an army.
Obviously only the elites can dish out violence as it is their right as a sovereign
reddit mods are soft, i got banned too. They might need to grow a pair.
reality is becoming a meme at this rate
Mostly harmless
It's only ok when a rich Republican does it, not a Democrat.
Do you have a legit reason to "liquidate" his assets?
Fuckers like him give good edgelords like myself a bad rep. That's a good quote, sucks that it came from such a dickhead.
He didn't come up with it
that doesn't surprise me
You basically posted the same thing on the way in here. Why don't you go back to Reddit? We don't need any more unhinged violent tankies.
Thanks for taking time out of your day to comment, lol