I've sunk probably a thousand hours into Slay the Spire, have beaten Hades, and just finished Cult of the Lamb. Looking for something else to scratch that itch- preferably on switch. Any suggestions?
Update: Y'all convinced me. I bought Binding of Isaac and am excited to start. I also tried out Dead Cells via Netflix, but feel like I'd prefer it with a controller compared to mobile. Gonna start with Isaac, and wait for a sale on Dead Cells. Thank you for all the recommendations! I'm saving this thread for future reference.
I said Noita is my favourite roguelite, but actually Heat Signature is probably tied with it. It has a completely different philosophy of soft failure.
If your character dies in space, they're dead, but they can also be captured, then another character can rescue them. And if a mission is going sideways, you can huck a wrench through a window and fling yourself into space, as long as you're confident you can pick yourself up with your space pod before you pass out.
It's very fast-paced with quick runs. Each character that comes along has different traits, and you can have 4 different people on the go at once. Each character has their individual quest - which can be rescuing another character - and when that's done you can retire them or keep them going.
It's very open to how you want to play.
Oh! Also, if you're trying to do your character's big final mission and it goes wrong, usually you can bail and try again. I lost quite a few characters before I realised that.
The Dead Cells devs have been putting in work on their multiplayer rogue lite Windblown, which is super fun.
Hades 2 is in a great spot and will keep getting better
Risk of Rain (1+2) both fantastic
But for really obscure and interesting mechanics and a true rogue like experience: Noita. It's pixel graphics but every foreground pixel is simulated and there are a craft huge number of interactions between substances and spells. There's deep lore that you have to be very dedicated to decipher. There's an actual alchemy system that changes depending on map seed.
Oh, and it's really hard.
They annoyingly have some proprietary licensing. Cozy Grove 2 was Netflix only. I only have it because my spouse's comfort show is on Netflix, otherwise it's going to be gone
I'm thrilled that Into the Breach is available on Android, massively disappointed that I cannot purchase it. But at least that means patched APKs exist...
I have generally found roguelikes to be too difficult, so if you want a turn-taking, strategic one that leans into the easier side while letting you set up many ridiculous combinations, I enjoy "Backpack Hero". You get a Resident Evil 4 styled inventory screen, and must arrange/place items for an optimal build. You generally get rewarded for stacking similar items.
The Bazaar is a similar game releasing soon. It's still primarily focused on developing synergies between items in your build, but there's more varied events between pvp fights and configuring your pack is simpler because it's on a line rather than a grid, if that makes sense. It will be releasing as free to play probably in February or March.
Dead cells and rogue legacy 1/2 were a lot of fun. Check out nethack if you want something more casual for mobile or in a terminal, it's a classic. Switch specific I'd say check out dead cells or Isaac. If you want something casual without a big story or learning a bunch of RPG systems you might want to check out donut county, goose game, or golf story.
For those who fondly remember FTL and think they got everything out of it; I highly, HIGHLY, recommend getting the Multiverse mod. It's essentially FTL 2 and adds an absolutely insane amount of content. Seriously, it's like 10x bigger than the base game. Dozens of new ships and equipment, several new races, hundreds of new events, new paths, new victory conditions. It is amazing and has really breathed new life into such an awesome game.
You owe it to yourself to try some traditional Roguelikes:
Caves of Qud (Just released 1.0 a month ago. Amazing game. Unique science fiction world full of weird and wonderful characters, complex tinkering crafting system, crazy mutants and really cool cybernetics. Huge amounts of lore and a rich detailed world. I can’t stop playing it!)
Shattered Pixel Dungeon (Really awesome game with a friendly developer who posts on Lemmy. Extremely well balanced classes: 5 main classes with a 6th in development. Cool character customization and equipment upgrade system. Super deep alchemy system. Probably the best mobile roguelike but amazing on PC too, with a great UI for every platform)
NetHack (old school, developed since 1987 and still active, very tough game, might not want to try this one first. Incredibly rewarding once you learn it! Absolutely crazy amount of interactions between items, characters, and features in the dungeon. Takes its “verb-based action system” much farther than any other game, including text adventure games)
Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup (very complex but not as brutal and spoilery as NetHack. Extreme replay value due to the huge number of species, backgrounds, skills, and gods)
Tales of Maj’Eyal (not as many races as DCSS but still a huge variety of character builds. Great music as well)
If you enjoy Slay the Spire and are interested in more rogue like deckbuilders, I'm a big fan of Griftlands.
It's pretty small in scope but it has some fun ideas and three base characters/decks with their own stories you follow. It does have some meta-progression if you care about that. I find making builds in it really fun and it's incredibly satisfying to see a deck come together and just destroy everything in your path.
Yeah I wasn't sure if the art is for everyone so I didn't mention it but I love the entire style, as well as the addition of the fake languages that the audio is done in. It really enhanced the immersion.
Beware though, it's quite different to other roguelites in that the world it creates is suprisingly expansive. You can get lost in it, mentally. There are quests that can take you dozens of hours to complete, all on the same run, and even if you become so absurdly overpowered that nothing can threaten you directly, till you can fly inside the sun, you can still get turned into a sheep and die in a single hit.
Also the wand-building is complex, it's like a programming language. People have built wands that can teleport you to parallel worlds, and the developers did not intend for that to be possible. And in a way I've never seen magic be done before, you can screw up and kill yourself with your wands, just like a discworld wizard. It's so easy to do, it's a rite of passage for any new player.
Some people don't like spoilers on this game so here you go, but honestly getting just a little spoiled made me get properly into it to understand what the hell people were talking about.
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I was maybe 8 or 9 hours into reaching the hardest boss in the game, up to NG+24 or so, just a couple of hours away from my destination. I was teleporting, had hundreds of thousands of hit points, had immunity to every kind of damage, could tear through the terrain like it wasn't there, had weapons that would evaporate any enemy in the blink of an eye even as they became exponentially more powerful with each NG+ level, and I was being careful. I had even pacified the world so nobody would attack. Then some asshole dropped in from off-screen with a wand of transmogrification, got hit by the chainsaw on my tele wand and retaliated while something exploded nearby throwing fire over us, and I, now a sheep, flopped around impotently for a few seconds on fire then just fucking died.
I... stopped playing after that one, I'll be honest. But I will return.
And rather than simply being repetitive, the way the world loops creates an ennui that's kind of haunting to me. The whole game is littered with versions of people trying to achieve immortality, and if you manage to reach a point where you actually can't die, you feel like you've soft-locked yourself, because dying is how you get to the end-screen. You can just end the run from the menu, but it feels fake somehow.
10/10 would try to kill god and confront my mortality again.
I mean, I don't know how much they anticipated. There are a lot of projectile path modifications that are clearly meant for tinkering, but the idea that they knew their players would do this is hard to tease out. It's a simulation game built very much on "Things are what they are," and they know this has deep implications.
Like when I was turned into a sheep, I wasn't "noita (sheep)", I was just "sheep". The noita I had been playing as was effectively stored in a state of nonexistence until the transmogrification wore off, then the sheep was replaced with the noita. So transforming yourself - or simply causing yourself to temporarily cease to exist - can be a way to eliminate side effects of certain things.
If there is one thing that it might be worth spoiling yourself on, if you're struggling to finish a run, is in the next spoiler.
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Learn to escape the Holy Mountain without collapsing it. Being able to return to edit wands, go back up in the world, and access health is a game-changer. Finishing the game without that trick is something I don't think I've ever done.
All the big lore stuff is discovered after finishing your first run anyway as far as I can tell.
Other than that, I would look up how to design good wands. This can be a good thing to learn by doing for a while, but there are deep interactions that you could soend a thousand runs not learning. I think the shared science is a big part of what makes this game great.
Thank you for the in-depth explanation! I've wishlisted it and will pick it up when it goes on sale. The art is absolutely beautiful, I can see how it could get haunting and lonely.
Against the Storm is a Rogue-lite City Builder, which sounds like 2 things that shouldn't go together but works surprisingly well. It has a generous demo on Steam that lets you freely play up to level 6 or something in the standard biome, so give it a try
Shape-Hero Factory is a Rogue-lite Factory Builder. Another weird combination that is surprisingly effective. It's in Early Access so there's a lot of features that are still planned, but you can do full runs and go up to I think Ascension 6. It had a demo during nextfest, not sure if the demo is still there.
I've been recently playing Kingsway which is a pretty unique roguelite RPG where the entire game takes place in a fake operating system inspired by the Windows 95 interface. Only on Steam though iirc.
Pretty fun, though I wish there were mods to increase the amount of content in the game.
Seconding this. There's so much to do and so many ways to customize how you wanna play while still unlocking new things to play with. Great, we'll designed little game that I've been playing for years.
You can set it up fairly easily the Steam version of DX and the Revision Mod, which at this point is basically all the most popular DX mods, reconfigured to play nice with each other and be as mutually compatible as possible.
Someone already mentioned Caves of Qud, that one is amazing, Noita is really good, also StarSector is functionally a roguelike but in space.
Also No Mans Sky is basically a rogue like if you turn on permadeath, kick the difficulty up.
If you've got interest in deep simulation mechanics you can check out Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead. It's FOSS and, last I checked, still has an active developer community.
Just as a bit of a counter to all the Isaac love (and, don't get me wrong, I love Isaac):
BoI is probably the best roguelite... from the early 2010s. The gameplay is ridiculously solid but the upgrade design and drop system has too much in common with the roguelikes of old where you would often lose a run because the purple potion was instant death on this run.
There are just so many upgrades and synergies that you might become completely unkillable on floor 2 of one run and then have your entire build ruined on floor 5 of a different run. I STRONGLY encourage playing with the wiki or https://tboi.com/ open on a second device/display to avoid these run ruining pickups because you happened to forget what THAT weird egg looking thing did with a different weird looking egg thing.
On PC there are mods that integrate this into the game (and I think you can use it with achievements after your first matricide?). And I think Edmund has said he wants to add that to the base game sooner than later?
But contrast that with games like Hades where basically every single upgrade is a pure upgrade and you have good item descriptions before you pick anything up (so it is mostly a case of deciding what damage types you want to spec for). Or Dead Cells where you can easily swap out a weapon if you decide you didn't like it. But in Isaac? You are basically chugging mystery potions on every floor.
avoid these run ruining pickups because you happened to forget what THAT weird egg looking thing did with a different weird looking egg thing.
The stupid behavior of X item sucks is part of the fun of the game and why it's so great, though. You pretty much forget all those broken runs you got, but I'll never forget the times I found Plan C or used the Bible on Satan. I also think you're missing that repentance modernized all this and there's even fewer bad items than before. At this point there are only a handful of truly bad items.
Hades is great and holds your hand, but the fact that every upgrade is more-or-less the same type of skill addition to your build is also boring.
Emphasis, perhaps, on the "lite" part of Roguelite. But it does have that Roguelike run structure where the levels and the items you find therein are randomized. But with side scrolling platforming gameplay with a very distinct set of fast double-jump-dodge-roll-parry-combo mechanics that I think can best be summed up as ninja gameplay. And you will get killed... a lot. There is a permanent progression system of a sort in the form of unlocking more weapons and items (and later, to re lock items you don't like), but your core stats remain the same. This is one of those games where the real progression is on your own personal quest to git gud.
I think it's pretty unique in that it has no dud weapons or items whatsoever. Everything -- literally everything -- has the potential to be viable and can be absolutely deadly when wielded in the right hands. Even the joke items.
It also has not one, but two weapons which involve beating the shit out of your enemies with frying pans. What's not to love?
In the style of Slay The Spire : Griftlands, Monster Train, Wildfrost, Accross The Obelisk, Dicey Dungeons (kinda)
More action oriented : Risk of Rain Returns, Risk of Rain 2 (both games are awesome and quite different), Rogue Legacy 1 & 2, Gunfire Reborn, Spelunky 1 & 2
Unique : Balatro, Noita, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Cultist Simulator, Ballionaire, Luck Be A Landlord
Feel free to search about any of these games or ask some questions about them.
Would not recommend Crypt of the Necrodancer, considering barely anybody ever beats the game even by default, and then completing the full story is far too hard to not be frustrating
Can't say it's not difficult, but it's not a reason to not talk about it. OP may be one of the 10% who could finish it.
For people who found it to difficult, Cadence of Hyrule is the same concept ported in the Zelda universe. It's easier, more forgiving and if you die, you don't have to start all over again. And its musics are awesome, Zelda music remixed by Danny Baranowski.
If you enjoyed Hades, you might like the new Ninja Turtles game, Splintered Fate. It's definitely a bit more than "inspired by" Hades. Doesn't quite hit the same, but it's still a good time.
Binding of Isaac is some OG classic stuff if you haven’t played that one, and Neon Abyss is a fun side-scrolling game on a similar vibe. Rogue Legacy 1 (very OG) and 2 and Dead Cells are also side scrolling , with a dash of Metroidvania.
If you like Slay the Spire, Astrea is the same thing but with dice, and Monster Train also scratches the same itch.
Like most others said. Dead Cells and Binding of Isaac are the top dogs. No matter what else I play I always circle back to one of those two eventually and get sucked in again. But some other lesser known ones that are good are:
Cursed to Golf - 2d golfing roguelike, no combat or anything. There’s a bunch of different cards to make the ball do different stuff. From a rocket ball you control after hitting to an ice ball that’ll freeze water hazards to a drill so you can tunnel through walls.
Oblivion Override - 2d with fast combat and a lot of perks and weapons that change things up. Perks from different “trees” have synergies that are a lot of fun.
Rogue Prince of Persia - 2d parkour style combat made by the folks that did most of Dead Cells post launch updates, still in early access but still fun.
Soundfall - not a true roguelike, top down rhythm shooter with random loot.
BlazBlue Entropy Effect - 2d with a boatload of different classes, different elemental perks that synergize and each class has different perks to add new melee combos
Curse of the Dead Gods - isometric with slower parry based combat, has some mechanics with light and dark that some folks don’t like. If there isn’t a light source nearby you can’t see traps and take extra damage but you can pull a torch out to light braziers or enemies on fire to illuminate the area.
Ravenswatch - same people that made Curse of the Dead Gods. Isometric with different classes and online co-op.
Voidigo - top down shooter with unique art and sound design. Lot of weapons and four or five different characters with unique abilities.
Have a Nice Death - 2d melee with nice movement, mechanics don’t seem as deep as others but still fun.
Dandy Ace - isometric with ranged combat. Magician that throws cards around, good selection of abilities.
Patch Quest - top down, hard to explain this one, might wanna watch a video to see how it plays.
Devil Slayer Raksasi - top down with a lot of elemental effects. Haven’t spent much time with it though.
Well this got a bit longer than I meant but they’re all solid, not sure if they’re all on Switch though.
One more, not a roguelike at all but Switch exclusive and a surprisingly awesome game. Golf Story, check it out.
Shows how much time I spent with that one. I just remembered enjoying it but started running into enemies that had all kinds of status effects and not liking getting blinded and slowed constantly. Need to get back to it eventually.
Highly recommended Roguelikes from personal experience or friend recommendations:
Binding of Isaac, FTL, Risk of Rain 2, Enter the Gungeon, Darkest Dungeon (my favorite)[not the second one], Monster Train, Crypt of the Necrodancer (another favorite).
It's worth noting that Risk of Rain 1 and 2 are very different games (3rd person 3D vs. 2D side scroller), and both are good - so if 2 didn't grab you, maybe check out 1 and see if that's more your thing. (The remastered version has a lot of nice QOL stuff and some new game modes and items.)
As much as I want to love rogue light games, I just can't get into most because I do not enjoy repeating the same thing over and over. It's especially exhausting when you start doing 30-40 minutes runs and I am just like, nah, there's no way I'm doing another run once I die. With that said, my favorite by far is also Slay the Spire because a run doesn't take very long and is lighthearted, so it works perfectly. The other games I enjoyed were Dead Cells, and Children of Morta. Hades was great as well, but you mentioned that.
For folks browsing the thread, not OP who already is done with Hades, I came to this thread to plug Hades because I hate roguelikes but enjoyed Hades. Story suckered me in, and it turns out the gameplay was fun too.
Hades 2 is in early access, but it's already very polished. They're releasing more areas with each patch, but it honestly already feels like a complete game.
If you can still download the legacy version of Dwarf Fortress from Bay12Games website, Adventure Mode is the best rouge like I've ever played. It's not yet in the Steam version, though.
For a more action-oriented rogue like, I find Returnal to be fun as hell. Roguelike bullet hell 3rd person shooter, with a pretty intriguing story line if you manage to actually get all of it (finding story bits is as random as everything else).
Edit: Er... They're on PC, though. DF could run on pretty much anything; returnal might need a decent gaming rig (or a PlayStation).
I sunk 25 hours into Balatro the first weekend I had it on PC. Also bought the mobile version when it came out, and have put an embarrassing amount of time into it.
Lmfao, someone hasn't beaten Red Stake. In all seriousness, do you really think LocalThunk would stoop that low? To using Lemmy bot ads to promote his game? Get real.
Dead Cells is fun. It has an end tho, but it's difficult getting there on the higher difficulties. I also liked children of morta, has a story mode and roguelite mode
Have you tried the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Splintered Fate game? I have not played it much at this point, but what little I piddled with it seemed enjoyable. For what it's worth, I've played Hades and Cult of the Lamb and really enjoyed them both. I have not played Slay the Spire, though.
While I also strongly recommend Dead Cells like others, I think it's best if you first play Rogue Legacy. Let's put it this way, if Rogue Legacy is like a good cup of coffee, dead cells is cocaine, or maybe crack.
Came here to suggest The Binding of Isaac, but it looks like people already convinced you. Hope you love it! I've achieved 100% completion at around 870 hours, and one of my acquaintances is currently at 4.1k hours played of that. It's an incredible amount of fun
Sounds like you might be into top-down roguelites. Enter the Gungeon, Binding of Isaac, and Nuclear Throne come to mind.
As for games that I would recommend because I just like them, I would recommend checking out Noita, which is a physics simulation/falling sands roguelite. It's pretty hit-or-miss, but if you like tinkering, you might like it. I'm also pretty partial towards Crypt of the Necrodancer, which is a rhythm/full roguelike genre mash. The full roguelike nature of the game makes it harder to get into initially but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty fun
I'm not REAL into these, but every now and then I find one (usually much lighter than like) that clicks with me and I dump a few days into it before I get bored.
Dead cells was fun.
Children of Morta was pretty cool as you have a whole family to level up.
I don't have a lot of experience with roguelike games. Before I even knew about the genre I played quite a bit of Spelunkey. As someone who loves Super Mario Bros I thought that game was great. I recently found Vagante and am having a lot of fun with it. It gives off Spelunkey vibes, but is more traditional fantasy.
Having a lot of fun with Tony Rogues. It's still in development, and will be for another year probably. However it has enough content for dozens of hours of fun!
I can vouch for nearly all of the suggestions in this thread, and suggest one I haven’t seen: Vampire Survivors. I’m not one much for anything to do with vampires, but the mechanics with this one are really pretty good.
If you’ve ever seen bullet hell games like Touhou, it’s kind of like that, but you are the bullet hell. You also only have one real control during the action part of the game and that is to move your character around the non-stop enemy swarms that come at you.
Your character has a weapon and automatically uses that weapon without any input from you, and as you kill enemies, you collect gems that allow you to upgrade that weapon that constantly fires. You also get chances for other item and weapons upgrades with the intent to learn their “unions” (a la The Binding of Isaac) where items work together to create fantastical “bullet heaven” screen-clearing destruction.
There’s probably a wiki about it, but it’s really pretty damn good.
Have you tried Mystery Dungeon? I think there are four of them on Switch. There's Shiren the Wanderer 5 & 6, Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon Every Buddy, and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX. If you've never tried the Mystery Dungeon format, then I'd recommend playing the demo for the Pokemon one to see if you like it first.
I've played several Shiren games (1 on DS, 3 on Wii, 5 and 6 on Switch) and I recommend Shiren 6 (Mystery Dungeons of Serpentcoil Island).
5 kinda went too far from its roguelike roots and feels too grindy, with too many ways to escape safely, especially easy ways to undo your death indefinitely.
6 is a lot more fun to me and makes good runs and crazy builds more special again.
For a very good introduction to the series, if you can play it, the port of Shiren 1 on DS is great and already has a lot of what makes those games fun. There is also a rom hack translation for the original on Super Famicom (that one only existed in Japanese), but I've not played that one much.
Two of my favorites are Vagante and Streets of Rogue. Vagante is a great challenge with all sorts of build variety and interesting choices to make along the way. Streets of Rogue is comedy and chaos. Both are a great time either single player or in co-op, either local or online.
Pathway is fun and I think counts as a Roguelite. If you also enjoy Rhythm games I would recommend Crypt of the NecroDancer. There's also Peglin that is pretty good. Getting off the switch I want to recommend Noita, but that game is also kinda intense in terms of both brutal difficulty and just how much stuff there is the game puts out of the way. I will also second the other recommendations for Darkest Dungeon, Risk of Rain 2, and Enter the Gungeon.
This isn’t exactly a rogue like but there are some similar aspects and I find that it satisfies in the same way. The game is Backpack Battles. Available on Steam. There’s a free demo available too with full mechanics but limited character options.
This is my default game more for when I have a few minutes to relax and nothing more pressing to do