Cynthia Erivo calls out fans who made their own Wicked poster
Cynthia Erivo calls out fans who made their own Wicked poster
Fans customized the Wicked movie poster to more closely match the original Broadway poster.
Original Broadway Poster:
Movie poster:
Some fans, disappointed by the poster, altered it to be closer to the original, moving Grande’s hand and lowering the brim of Erivo’s hat to cover her eyes. The edits prompted Erivo to respond. “This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen
“None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me. It degrades us,” Erivo continued. “The original poster is an ILLUSTRATION. I am a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.”
So, this seems like a completely reasonable reaction to fans making fan content.
If it was her decision that her full face should be on display, the backlash should be evidence enough that someone else gets paid to make those decisions, not her.
The original looks boring. She has absolutely no emotions on her face. There's no mystique, no 'wickedness'. Even the composition looks like something a high schooler in Photoshop class would make.
The edit isn't perfect either. But at least it pays homage to the original in more than just image. It adds that mystique back, and makes her look more menacing.
What it truly boils down to is ego. Although the edit is better, and so many people agree on it, it doesn't show her full face. And she can't let that go.
Guaranteed this whole thing came up before that it didn't match the style. She showed her cards and now makes it sound like she was the one who pushed against matching the original. Now that the fans see it and dislike it (probably like they warned that fans would), she's mad about it. It really sounds like she pushed for this design so it wouldn't hide her face and now she's furious that fans reacted in the exact way that was predicted.
The edit looks ridiculous, how is it better?
I'm not mixing this up right?
The first picture with the red lipstick is the fan made photo?
where you can't see half her face?
that is fucking weird.
The original looks so much better.
what are you talking about there's no emotions on her face?
in the fan edit they took away half her face!
this is crazy that people like the fan edit, It's like if you cut an origami crane in half, drew a smiley face on it with a Sharpie and you were like "yeah that's better."
That was never the point. I'm not commenting on if it's better or not. Her reaction to something a fan made is what we're all talking about.
Imagine there was a live action Bleach remake where the actor bullied their way into having Ichigo's sword green and freaked out at fans when they edited it to make it look right. Then your dumbass comes in acting like everyone is wrong and the remake isn't actual garbage.
It's like you don't have a single gram of artistic vision or social awareness behind your eyes.
The ego and vanity is astounding. And the movie poster sucks because she's looking straight at the camera.
And I'm 90% sure that originally they wanted to make it matches the original styling but she fought to keep her face fully visible. So that's why she's so irked that there's a fan who made that edit and proved the people who suggested that in the first place right.
That's quite the oversimplification of a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.
She makes no mention of the hand covering up the other actresses face either.
I keep staring at the original, trying to figure out what she's trying to communicate. I've seen the Broadway musical. I know the story. The vacant expression just doesn't fit. It doesn't convey any emotion I associate with the character.
Imo the fan one is better. They should have done the red lipstick with a smirk rather than green and looking bored.
This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen
Congratulations I guess?
It's nice to know her problems are absolutely miniscule.
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If that’s the most offensive thing they have seen they live a charmed life.
I could easily make it worse by simply copying and posting a cup onto the poster.
Yes, the Internet has broken me....
Bit of an overreaction if you ask me
Theatre kids gonna theatre
Putting it mildly.
Nerve status: Struck
As we all know snapping at the fans, especially over matters of source material accuracy, always works out well for everyone involved in the making of the adaptation.
Especially in the lead up to its release when you're trying to hype up the fans
because, without words we communicate with our eyes
IDK, the original and the edit both communicate way more mystique and mischievousness than the one with her eyes visible
You know, like how the wicked witch would
Huh. This is why you need a PR team.
Yeah maybe not calling out your fans on making things that build excitement for your upcoming project is the best course of action as an actor. It's like Daisy Ridley calling out Star Wars fans for having the wrong body shape in cosplay or something else equally stupid. They're fans. They're having fun. You don't get to tell your fans how they're supposed to enjoy your work.
What an utterly ridiculous and inconsequential thing to get upset about. Someone should tell her to re-read what she just wrote and think about how stupid it sounds.
In matters of taste, the customer is always right.
Nobody but the audience gets to decide what the audience wants. Not writers, not actors, not directors, not graphic designers. If you can give the audience something they didn't know that they wanted until they got it, so much the better for you. But if the audience just plain wants something else, then there's no amount of cajoling or negotiation that will make them feel otherwise.
That said, I have no idea what the collective response is to either of these posters, and this does feel a bit like a tempest in a teapot.
You haven't worked a service gig comrade. When someone asks for they're bacon sandwich to be raw you'll understand.
Fans did a service on that one
Totally proportionate reaction.
Yup, not psycho at all.
I read the text before the post title and thought it was some witchymemes joke rant about people stereotyping witches which would have been kinda funny. A shame that she's serious.
As an occultist, I was offended. /s
Yea lady, that's totally just as bad as people asking if your ***** is green.
One thing I've noticed over time is that people in Hollywood are pretty normal.
/s
The original composition with her eyes covered is just better and way more interesting.
Right? Plus it's an homage to the musical and instantly recognisable.
I was on the fence about giving any time to viewing Wicked but I think it's gonna be a hard pass now.
Yup, fuck that movie with a rake. I ain't seeing it either!
Same. Was going to see it in the cinema opening week. Now I’ll wait for the reviews and streaming release. I’ve already seen the broadway show (excellent show btw).
What is she trying to communicate anyway? She has the plainest, most boring face of all time, just staring at the camera with the eyes of a dead fish. There is no communication going on.
I think she's trying to communicate her skincare routine.
I. Want. To. Fit. In.
She’s just remembered she has some video tapes to return.
Maybe it's a PR thing.
Can't tell who it is on the edited version.
Everything is about brand and name recognition these days
Without words we communicate with our eyes
True, but this actress ain't doing that. She's completely dissociated in the pic, her expression so blank and emotionless, screaming that she's dead inside. While a dissociated character could make a good villain, it's not hard to see that the character in the poster for the musical isn't a dissociated villian who is unaware of her cruelty but someone who is fully conscious of and revels in it. It's only natural that people who are fans of the original work notice just how out of character this is and try to fix it.
Don't like it? Stop making stupid remakes of ancient stuff and make something original for once! Maybe try putting some emotion into it!
But you know, that'd require Hollywood actually put in effort and they've probably forgotten how to do that by now. Seriously, is anyone watching the new shit that they fart out over there these days? Most everyone I know either rewatches old shit or watches anime. Hey, maybe we'll see the rise of Bollywood over the next couple decades, who knows?
I prefer the original poster. The new poster still looks like Wicked to me, and I would be disappointed if it recreated the original exactly. The fan edit is fun, I like it, but I understand artists from current year who made the modern poster would want to make a statement different than artists from when the original came out.
Everyone is making art, why do we have to be mad about that?
I'm just here to downvote Varyk into oblivion 😂
Don't you know? By disagreeing with her feelings it's the same as thinking she's subhuman. We are all 100% evil for thinking her feelings come off as vain and self centered.
The sad thinng is, that's not even a good troll.
Oof, if she’s that offended by a poster edit, she should probably hide out on a deserted island for three months when the movie releases. That’s quite the reaction to a probably well-intentioned edit.
The other things she mentioned are not OK, obviously. But I’d keep my annoyance private as this will only encourage trolling…
...when the actual wounded party (if any could really be found) would be the photographer and/or the graphic artist who produced the image. The model had no idea or say in how their image would ultimately be used. No doubt dozens of images were taken probably some with brim down. It's not up to the model to decide how the images are used.
Getting them snow white vibes... These regime whores forgot that consumer demand pays their bills, not sucking some corpo's dick due to "misused art" or is she really self involved?
Compare movie posters of women whose eyes or even whole heads you can't see or that are reduced to legs vs. movie posters of male actors to whom this is rarely done and it is clear what is happening.
Top this with the problems people of color face and that the new poster takes away her facial look, the look of a person of color and replaces everything that reminds of her with a bland face that could be anyone and I understand her anger.She could have explained the issue instead of lashing out, because so many of her fans (and people in ths thread) don't understand the problem and education is necessary and more helpful for everyone.
That article, which does highlight a valid criticism of society and Hollywood, doesn't really apply to this scenario. The fan edit isn't about sexing up the characters. The edit is doing a more effective job of recreating the original poster than the movie studio did.
I don't fault the actors or even the studio for wanting to feature their high paid actors on the movie poster but by trying to recreate the original but failing to capture the mood, of course fans are going to want to put their spin on it. There is probably even a middle ground that could have been struck to make her face mysterious but still mostly visible.
Is it rude and offensive when fans edit the Lord of the Rings films to better reflect the original story as told in the books?
In the end, I'm pretty sure this whole thing is a PR stunt to stir up word of mouth. Which of course is working because we all like to argue.
I don’t fault the actors or even the studio for wanting to feature their high paid actors on the movie poster
But already the original failed to do that. Imagine a movie like that featuring high paid male actors in a way that their faces are minimalized to a point they are unrecognizable (just check their posters and how prominent their faces stare at you). No one would do that. Just because people are used to the old poster does not make it good. The original is a failure that did a disservice to the women on it, just one we know and are nostalgic for. I do not think this fan poster was done in malice but because it is still not recognized wildly as a problem and we need to get the message out: Show the women's faces as much as you show the men's faces.
I don't think this is a PR stunt, I think it is honest feelings that come up for a reason.
Imagine finally as a person of color having made it to a point in your career that YOU are the center piece of a movie poster of a highly anticipated movie and just with a finger snip someone erases that because they love an old poster that erased other women's faces at a time where no one bat an eye about it.
Again, I understand nostalgia. I am 58 y.o. and I had to let go a myriad of things that were just fine in my youth and learn why they definitely were bad back then and are now. Let that old poster die. It is not good, its mood is erasing women, which is wicked, I give it that.
But is her pussy green?
Until this moment, I thought everyone was saying shits.
it's not like they didn't know the original poster existed when they made the official poster. they made it a particular way on purpose and the edit doesn't respect that
But who cares. It's a fan edit. It's not like they're ripping down the poster wherever they see it and replacing it
Even if they were who cares it's a fucking poster. It's giving buzz to your project. This lady has lost the plot.
Actor: I was doing my own thing.
Fans: We literally never asked for that.
That's my big thing. If an actor wants to be serious and do their own thing - awesome, do an arthouse film, or theater. Jumping into an existing franchise that is already known and beloved by fans is a completely different thing. It's not for you, an actor, to make it your own, your job is to uphold the character we already know and love.
Robert Downey Jr came in and learned about Iron Man, and did his own little flairs to it, but never at the expense of who or what Iron Man was, and over time he became Iron Man, to the point where pop culture doesn't recognize anyone but RDJ as Iron Man. He didn't get that by jumping in and saying "My face is more important than Iron Man". (In fact, his face was literally covered a good chunk of the first movie now that I think about it)
So?
What's the harm of the fan edit? Why get upset that someone edited a movie poster to more closely match the original poster?
Fans didn't do it to demean or belittle the actors in the movie. They did it because they're excited for the movie.
What a silly thing to get mad over.
