politics @lemmy.world slurpinderpin @lemmy.world 1mo ago

Report: Donald Trump has spent millions in possible witness tampering

www.nj.com Report: Donald Trump has spent millions in possible witness tampering

At least nine witnesses received huge pay raises, generous severance packages, new job offers and other financial benefits.

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I still want to know how an NDA that says you can't talk to law enforcement is (a) allowed, and (b) enforceable. If I were an investigator and heard about that, I'd want to know exactly what the company needed to hide so badly that they had to add that clause in.

And I said this in another post, but if you are ever asked to sign an NDA that says you can't cooperate with law enforcement, hand in your resignation and seek legal counsel. They're not asking you to sign it to protect you. They're asking you to sign it so when shit hits the fan (and it WILL hit the fan), you'll be the lackey who's stuck falling on their sword unless you want to be subject to a penalty that far exceeds what you were offered when you signed the NDA in the first place.

If they're saying "Here's a shitload of money, don't talk to the cops.", there's a reason for that. And it's probably not going to end well for you.
- if you are ever asked to sign an NDA that says you can't cooperate with law enforcement
  
  i don't think this is even enforceable
  
  an nda is enforced by the justice system it's not going to enforce it against itself
  
  I think the NDA could restrict you from talking to law enforcement about what you had for breakfast and probably be enforceable but contracts can't be enforced if they'd require you to commit crimes or prevent you from reporting crimes.
  
  an nda is enforced by the justice system it's not going to enforce it against itself
  
  It's not that simple. There are two main components to the legal system, civil and criminal. Civil is between two private parties (people, companies, and sometimes the government) for disputes with contracts and such. Criminal law is when the government brings changes against you for breaking the law.
  
  Generally law enforcement ("the justice system") works on the criminal side of things. It doesn't really care about a contract between two people if something illegal is happening. Can you imagine the loopholes that could create in organized crime if you just had to write a contract and you couldn't use an otherwise willing accomplice as a witness?
- This is why criminal conduct automatically voids NDAs. You can sign it all day long. If you get called as a witness in a criminal trial, they can't do shit about it.
  
  What about before the trial, you know, like during the investigation that has to happen before a trial can be called?
- if it prohibits voluntary cooperation, probably ok. Involuntary cooperation (subpoena, etc) is compelled no matter what you signed - but I am not sure if an NDA prohibiting it is unlawful. (Though it’s definitely unenforceable)
  
  Even voluntary cooperation being okay is pretty wild, conceptually. What possible purpose could that serve but covering up crimes?
  
  No NDA can protect illegal activities.
  
  Think about it. the enforcement of an NDA is going to go through the courts. “So what was the NDA protecting?”
  
  “Your honor we paid the witness to answer a certain way” is… not going to end well. For anyone involved.
  
  The only exception I’m aware of- and it’s not really one I’m sure of- is if you take a settlement from cops as a result of police misconduct.
  
  It is unlawful.
- But also: fuck the police; don't talk to the police; lawyer up.
It's not even an allegation at this point, people are fucking bragging about it. Like this is the ONE TIME he pays people for work, and it's for lying. Totally on brand.
- Campaign funds paid them, not him personally. Although he's surely grifting off the campaign and no doubt considers all that money his own.
  
  Isn't that more of the same crime the trial was about?
I'm surprised he didn't stiff them.
- Lol underrated.
Lock him up!
Grift, spend, repeat.
Is this new on top for his already on going legal issues?
Oh no! We might think about scheduling a meeting to convene a council to possibly select a grand jury in five years!
Ew wtf is that thumbnail get it away
The LEFT and DEMOCRATS be like: "Trump is running again, let's do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING to disrupt his campaigning!!!
- Correct. You wouldn't want a convicted felon as president, would you?
- Man, you're not even hiding the fact that you're a Russian troll, or at least a very, very bad actor. Just no tact huh?
  
  Well, yes. And explain to me again how democrats are involved in the DOJ and Justice system pursuing crimes, crimes that trump and his ilk have absolutely committed? Crimes that are mob-like, for a convicted felon, and twice impeached embarrassment of a fucking president.
  
  Even though Democrats aren't even involved here, I'd want them to be. I want everyone to be. Fuck trump, fuck that lying piece of shit ex-president crime lord. What a fucking scumbag.
  
  He's the god damn most miserable fucking train you could have ever fucking attached your worthless goddamn life to you absolute piece of shit fascist supporting Russian loving dickhead.

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