I once asked my nephew about this - he worked in a hotel back then. Yes, indeed, they clean toilet brushes in a dishwasher.
But it is a separate one that is only for toilet brushes and brush holders, nothing else.
I would completely agree with this and do it like this. Why? Saves time to say the least.
But, using the same one as for dishes? No way. Separate one, marked and all that? Makes perfect sense 👍.
I had an old dishwasher I used as an improvised parts washer when fixing up cars.
I used a ratchet strap to keep the door closed because the latch was busted, but it still heated the water and sprayed it just fine.
How did steel and aluminum parts react after coming into contact with hot water and soap? I can imagine a non-trivial amount of milling/resurfacing of any interface that is meant to take a gasket due to how metals react to caustic environments.
Unless you disabled the dishwasher’s internal heating element and used degreasers instead of water… that makes a lot more sense.
See, this makes sense to me. It's the same way with anything IMO. If it involves bodily fluids, beyond native saliva and tears, you probably want to wash it specifically. At least in its own load, possibly in a different machine entirely, maybe even get it professionally handled, or clean it with fire. Depending on the severity of the soiling...
I have no issue with someone using a thing that was designed for another purpose to do something that it's designers didn't think of. As long as you're not cross contaminating your food with it, I couldn't really care less.... But bluntly, using your dishwasher, the same one you use for dishes, to clean your poop scrubber? Big nope from me.
I worked at a restaurant in the kitchen. We had a place on the wall to hang brushes. The GREEN brushes were to be used for food/prep areas only. The white brushes were for cleaning toilets, and other filthy places.
The white brushes were soaked in buckets and rinsed/washed thoroughly in a slop sink, then later, put in the racks that push through the dishwasher conveyor belt that ran through the machine if I recall correctly. It's been more than 20 years
Wow, you can never tell with people. Go to someone’s house, and maybe they’re secret toilet-brush-in-dishwasher people. And there you are, innocently using their dishes.
For situations like this, I suggest blissful ignorance.
I just never go anywhere.
Have you heard of kitchen sink spaghetti? Well now you have. Enjoy the meatballs!
As a wise man once said, "you can't eat at everybody's house."
Thank God dishwashers are not that common in my country because I'm sure stupid people would use it like this.
Sometimes it's great having life threatening allergies - my whole life I've never trusted food that anyone else has made, I have perfected the art of the polite rejection.
I see things like kitchen sink spaghetti, dishwasher fish, and now dishwasher toilet brush, and I look back at how I've coincidentally dodged all those bullets.
(Growing up, in my house "kitchen sink spaghetti" was sometimes also called "crisper drawer pasta", it was all the wilted, sad vegetables that had been neglected in the fridge. Chopped, roasted, pureed, and served on pasta.... No actual sink involved, we just called it kitchen sink spaghetti because it contained "everything except for the kitchen sink"...so learning that some people genuinely use the bare sink to drain pasta - and not just for click bait and views was disgusting eye opening)
Yikes. I would never eat there again!
Logically, the heat used for drying should kill any germs. But why risk it.
I rinse mine in the toilet bowl when it has bleach based toilet cleaner in it. That alone keeps them pretty clean.
It wouldn't be the heat used for drying, it would be the heat used for washing. Assuming that you have a dishwasher with a sanitize cycle/option always use it. they are required to reach a minimum temperature of 150f. typical range in actual products is 165ºF to 180ºF (74ºC to 82ºC)
I still wouldn't trust that to be all that great. Sanitize isn't a very controlled term (sterilize is). If you look up autoclaves, which are essentially steam baths to kill bacteria, they only get 90% of microbial life after more than an hour, and their temperatures are much higher than any dishwasher will reach.
I rinse mine in the toilet bowl when it has bleach based toilet cleaner in it.This is the way. Edit: I don't know how to quote :P
There’s a really good short form podcast by a couple food scientists in the USA and they covered this one saying not risky. https://www.riskyornot.co/episodes/548-cleaning-the-toilet-brushes-in-the-dishwasher-top-rack
Even if true, what if someone said they shit on their plates, throw the shit in the toilet, them dishwasher the plates.
Would you conceptually still be ok eating off that plate? Even if you knew for fact it had gone through the machine?
Huh don’t have time to listen to the whole thing rn but wonder what their rationale is 🤔
I could see it being safe from a germ perspective but when a little nugget of shit rattles around in the machine and ends up anywhere near what you're using to eat that's gotta suck, safe or not.
You have to consider only two things really:
- Maybe, just maybe, something which was designed to kill the bacteria and remove the residue of things that came in contact with fresh or at most rotten food, is also totally effective at doing the same for things that came in contact with fecal mater and with toiled cleaning chemicals. Or maybe not.
- Do you for a toilet brush need the level of cleaniness achieved by a dishwasher, and if not are there other reasonably simple methods to achieve the required level of cleaniness for it?
In the absence of actual scientific studies that provided an answer for the "is a household dishwater entirelly effective for fecal mater and toilet cleaning chemicals contamination" question with a high degree of certainty, the consideration on whether to do this or not boils down to: "Is a dishwasher level of cleaniness for a toilet brush worth the risk that the dishwasher might not deal with fecal mater or toilet cleaning chemical contamination correctly?"
Personally, I don't think it's worth the risk.
This is a very reasonable post.
Here is another reasonable approach which is simpler. Isolation and containment is the best way to prevent spread of bacteria from one place to another. Minimising taking any items from the toilet to the kitchen, minimises the spread of bacteria between the two places.
So without any scientific study or evidence specifically to dishwashers and toilet brushes, we can make a reasonable assumption that taking a toilet brush from the toilet to the kitchen is a bad idea and should be avoided.
I doubt this is real, but if it were and I were the poster I would also isolate and contain that home. I would erradocate the movement of me from any other location to that home.
Bottom shelf usually gets a more aggressive wash. I think these are better suited for bottom shelf.
Closer to the heat element though, so a lot of plastics are top rack only
Yeah toilet brushes really should specify which dishwasher rack they are safe for.
But then where would u shit?
I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn't much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl. They both contain a lot of the same bacteria, you wouldn't be much better off licking an old used plate that has been sitting in a moist environment for a few days before you put the dishwasher on than you would be from licking a toilet brush. Well made dishwashers are designed to vigorously wash and, with the right settings and detergent, sanitize everything inside them so that they are safe to eat off of. Heck the machines they use to sanitize surgical equipment are essentially fancy dishwashers. But emotionally I couldn't do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn't be able to get over that mental hurdle.
I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn't much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl.
First, what the fuck is growing on your dishes that you believe is "logically" equivalent to eating human shit? Second, this isn't a logic problem or a place for opinion. All the work was already done for you, just waiting for you to look it up instead of giving your opinion on bacteria.
Human shit also doesn't only contain bacteria. There's an estimated 100 million - 1 billion virus per gram of wet shit inside of us. Fungi are estimated at up to a million microorganisms per gram of wet shit and there's still around 100 billion bacteria per gram of wet shit. Let's not forget parasites like cryptosporidium which your body purges in shit.
Meanwhile either giving your dishes a cursory rinse or not allowing them to sit covered in food for days on end would minimize bacterial or fungal growth on your dishes.
This is a reminder for everyone: your opinion on facts that you can't be bothered to type in a search box are less than worthless. They're disinformation and in some cases, like telling people that eating shit is no more harmful that licking a plate, can cause harm.
Just say no to opinions on what facts may or may not be. Cite your sources.
I didn't say it was the equivalent I said neither are good for you and both could be cleaned and sanitized sufficiently by the right dishwasher, so please don't put words in my mouth thanks. Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren't going to have anything good for you on them either and that's how most people treat their used dishes. We get viruses and parasites growing on regular food that has gone bad too, and both are going to disagree with your stomach and potentially do some harm. Does rinsing your dishes or washing them right away help mitigate or prevent that? Sure. Does everyone do that? Of course not. I never said "eating shit is the exact same as licking a dirty dish" nor did I say anything close to that. I said "both are bad for you and a well made dishwasher is designed to clean things really well and even sanitize them in order to make them safe to eat off of, so it makes sense logically that this could be safe but I still wouldn't do it anyway".
But emotionally I couldn't do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn't be able to get over that mental hurdle.
I know, right? If nothing else it just feels wrong...
I don't know about the dishes but according to my memory of something I read a while ago (can't look things up right now), the kitchen sink and kitchen brushes aren't much cleaner than anything in the toilet; and actually, kitchen washcloths/sponges tend to be worse than toilet surfaces.
So, maybe don't put toilet brushes in the dishwasher but definitely don't put in kitchen washcloths either. Not sure what this means about us washing dishes by hand with a sponge either. And maybe don't put in used washcloths along your clothes in the washing machine.
i would assume the big problem with toilet items is that some quite nasty bugs come out of our bungholes, whereas in the kitchen you'll at worst find salmonella if you don't practice good hygeiene around raw unvaccinated bird products
It's not about killing microbes, it's about getting rid of pathogens and spores they create. You can't steam that away. For example, botulinum toxin can withstand up to +85C and botulinum spores can withstand boiling water. No dishwasher will make your stuff safe from botulinum.
Your toilet brushes probably don't have anaerobic bacteria spores on them. To be clear, I think this is properly gross, but I also acknowledge that to some degree this is a marginally irrational preference for keeping food and poop separate. In all likelihood, there is no actual risk of disease from this practice.
What the fuck is wrong with people.
how the fuck do you lack this much common sense? to put your fucking shitty toilet brush where you put your eating utensils?
Something something poop knife
Ew... like, all alone, with nothing else in the dishwasher at all, and a rinse cycle in-between that and other things that you plan to eat off of?
Even then, it seems inefficient to me. Also, why would those even need to be cleaned - do you plan on eating off of those?!? They get "cleaned" well enough by going into the toilet - no need for more?
I'm surprised the market isn't absolutely filled with UV toilet brush cleaners.
Usually I clean the toilet with soap and the brush, and then occasionally clean the brush by cleaning the toilet like normal, flushing, and putting a stronger antimicrobial (looks like bleach but isn't, since they don't sell it as much anymore due to the danger it has around the house) on the brush and then rinsing it in the toilet and flushing again.
Mostly I don't want it to stink. It's bad if anyone has cause to notice the toilet brush tucked almost behind the toilet. Same for the plunger.
Meeh, I do clean them from time to time. They do become very dirty after a while and it shows since they're white. Not really often, like once a year, but still.
not scooby doo again
I mean... that's putting a lot of faith in the dishwasher to work properly every single time you do it. I don't know if I've got enough trust in the 1995 beige "landlord special" under my counter right now.
The water sprays from the bottom so I think it would not matter whether they are on the top rack
It might even be worse, depending on the dishwasher's design.
While we're at it....do people really put their dildos and pocket pussies in the dishwasher?
I wash them in the toilet 🤷.
Some things cost so much that regardless of what's on the label,hand wash only is the only reasonable answer.
That's the other thing: my hands touch cock/vag and I'm fine with using my hands to wash my hands
Top rack only
absolutely
Yes, but do make sure the material they're made of won't melt or deform in the high heat of a dishwasher
I would prefer they get boiled... 100C/212F is higher than the midrange a dishwasher will reach, and it will be more constant contact than the steam and spray of water.
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I understand the ick factor, but dishwashers are built to sanitize. Its going to get hotter than anything you'd wanna stick your hands in.
The biggest worry would be the bristles clogging the drain.
Now ask her how she cleans her sex toys.
Sounds gross but as long as it isn't with dishes and the dishwasher works right why would it be a problem? Soap is soap.
I mean I have no reason to think it's bad... But it still doesn't feel comfortable.
I mean, if a household that keeps kosher has two sets of everything (plateware, silverware, sinks, etc) to make sure meat doesn't touch dairy...the logic states you should have a different machine/method for excrement-related things to ensure it doesn't touch your normal plateware and silverware.
I, personally, would not be comfortable using the machine again for food related things if I found out my housemate had washed the toilet brush in our dishwasher. Poop is meant to be expelled from your body, not consumed in any way - may I remind (the royal) you how pink eye originates?
Do you eat food from your hands after using the washroom and/or showering?
Not gonna lie your sister might have some mental illness, let's consider for a minute that the dishwasher might be very very good at cleaning I still would never do this due to the gross factor. Sorry mate but I'm not gonna put anything that goes in the bathroom anyway near things that food goes on to!!
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I'm not proud of this, but I need to ask. My sister insists on cleaning the toilet brushes in the dishwasher's top rack, and I have reservations. To me, it doesn't seem very sanitary. Thoughts?
Good human.
Can't find the YouTube link I'm looking for with the "guy with deep voice" but it's close enough to this link... REMINDS ME OF TOILET SEAT DUET...
My mother used to recycle her douche bottles, throw it in with the regular dishes, and make her own. Guess who always had to wash the dishes...
Some lucky therapist is gonna pay off their house because of you
Your mom didn't really think things through, did she...
You know how you wash your dishes to keep the leftover bits of food on them from crusting onto them in the dish washer?
That, like ten times first, maybe twenty.
Where's the No Poop Challenge guy when you need him.
Residential dishwasher probably don’t get hot enough to do that safely.
160F/72C - s'pose it depends on the machine. It's not the sort of bacteriologic roulette I would want to play. Truly a 'shit post'. Er, Bravo, I guess.
Still, even if it gets to 100°C (boiling point), I still won't do it.
I believe most of them have a setting where they can sanitize things, because it's a function of not just temperature, but also time.
Commercial dishwashers do the same thing much faster by using higher temperatures, but they also tend to get to sanitary, not sterile which needs higher temperatures for a longer times.
She should install a dishwasher in the bathroom
Fuck.
Use the sanitize and steam settings, tho that might melt the shitty plastic on most toilet brushes.... But at least you don't have to worry about living bacteria
Still not doing it. And not all dishwashers have that setting (mine doesn't).
You clean it in the tub. The fuck is wrong with that sister?
