https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16tqihd/settings_updateschanges_to_ad_personalization/
Reddit just decided it was a good idea to REMOVE the option to disable ad personalisation. Good job u/spez. We know what you're doing.
Time for a new influx. Everyone still on reddit needs to advertise lemmy.
And not join-lemmy.org, that's confusing. Just pick one of the larger servers like lemm.ee or fedia.io and tell people to browse it and click "Sign Up" if they like it.
This really doesn't sound legal.
I hope spez has good GDPR lawyers!
I was going to ask as well. Doesn't it like infringe on a law madd by California or the EU or some shit?
Oh, okay. I had no idea. I was like "How far do I have to scroll to find out what reddit did this time?"
Wouldn't affect me anyway, because I use an ad blocker.
Yup ads and posts on reddit are becoming even more indistinguishable, the "organic community" is just a selling point for marketing because you can embed yourself in it, basically just exploiting their users. The metrics to gauge ad performance is based on things that make the site shitty as well. Reddit, at least the big subs, haven't been organic in this way for a long time, it's basically a simulation of an organic online community at this point.
Why are these people still there, do they just stick around on reddit to complain about it?
Hating Reddit is the usual Reddit routine, the one you may be rewarded for with Reddit's updoots.
They should come to Lemmy to complain about Reddit, like the rest of us.
I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I'm one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - https://futurology.today/ ) It's been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.
This is despite the fact we've permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.
For what it's worth, I was on Reddit for over a decade and I think I clicked on a stickied thread from any subreddit maybe twice in that whole time. I think a lot of people's eyes just automatically skip over them. Plus, stickied threads disappear under some sorting options. Posting the occasional meme about it might be more effective.
IIRC stickies are also excluded from feed once they get this attribute.
But yeah, we don't even understand what a barrier switching to fediverse sites is for regular joes, jemmas and jermas. Like, for many people the internet is suggested apps' feed and, rarely, their browser's default start page. They don't choose anything, and why would they? And here we are, challenging them to do something on intent while they are pretty happy with what they have now.
and why would they? ........... they are pretty happy with what they have now.
Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who've setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.
My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn't too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.
But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it's expressing.
I literally only switched because of Boost. Also, since Boost for Reddit still works for me, I continue to use that as well
People who would leave a site like Reddit because of a principled stance often mistakenly believe that the rest of society cares as deeply as they. Spoiler: society mostly doesn't care; at least, not enough to go out of their way to change anything.
Even the head mod of piracy subreddit was ousted from the subreddit for attempting to migrate the sub to a lemmy instance, and the redditors that remain there actually cheered! It's wild, you would expect pirates, who always at risk of having their subreddit shut down, would understand the need to migrate.
Those remaining were probably the leechers. Just there to find content but not give back to the community.
So, good riddance?
The quality of content in /r/piracy is shit nowadays when compared to [email protected]
I'm technically from elsewhere in the fediverse, but I'm also a Reddit migrant (back in June). Thank you for setting the community up, I've missed it from Reddit days
Literally swap the word Fediverse in that pinned post for Lemmy and you'll get more engagement with it. Because you're right, even if the current reddit user has heard of lemmy and mastodon, they still most likely don't know what the fediverse is, don't understand the site linked to is a lemmy instance / reddit alternative. Subbed to [email protected] btw, if the current activity there can be sustained I think it'll shape up to be a nice community
I don't even know what fediverse means
I fully agree. I believe it's also easy to think that Lemmy/Fediverse is great once you've tried it for a short while, I thought so as well, which confirms the idea that Reddit is dead (and posts like this also confirm the idea). But I've gone back to Reddit lately because there is politics everywhere over here. Instead of being mildly entertained I'm instead getting angered and passively accused of being a Nazi every other day. The atmosphere over at Reddit is a whole lot more welcoming.
It's also likely that most visitors don't go to the sub directly so the stickied post is easily missed
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/15wi75l/rfuturology_is_now_in_the_fediverse_at/
It's hard to know exactly how many people see them from the stats Reddit gives Mods. Reddit gives a figure within the post for views, which stands at about 160,000 for the post I mentioned. That includes the times people have been served the title in their feed & and the times people clicked on it (sadly Reddit doesn't differentiate further).
The fediverse site has been going for 6 weeks and has about 620 subscribers. My guestimate from looking at addresses in comments is that maybe 100-150 are reddit migrants. So roughly speaking 1 in 1000 r/futurology people who saw something about our fediverse site were motivated to join.
A sobering thought for people who think the fediverse is about to crush reddit.
Just want to say that every time Reddit does something shitty like this, Lemmy will get a boost. And with Lemmy constantly getting better (both community and platform), I’m willing to bet these boosts come with smaller user drop offs every time.
Which is to say, keep up the good work Reddit!
At this point (and with Sync, as I used for reddit), Lemmy is indistinguishable from my reddit browsing experience. Except on Lemmy I don't encounter constant hostility.
The quality of posts and comments overall isn’t where Reddit was. That comes with volume, though.
Also, I haven’t found a single niche community that does what Reddit did. For instance, if I’m into a specific show, Reddit was my go to place for discussions about a new episode. Lemmy does not have that for any show I watch.
Well you might have to block the Linux spam but otherwise I agree.
The common reddit apps coming to lemmy also helps. People used to Boost, Sync, Infinity and others can finally browse lemmy on a known interface
What did they do this time?
You can no longer op-out for targeted advertising based on use habits (like if you visited canned sardines you could get ads about sardines on the canned sardines subreddit but not on cheatatmathhomework, now you could get ads about canned sardines in the math subreddit and about brilliant on the sardines one)
but also, with every influx it waters down the spirit of lemmy a tiny bit in exchange for more activity / content / perspectives. which generally is worth it so far, but even still i can already see some discussions on here getting worse, with shittier viewpoints i wish were quarantined in facebook
No it it also has the effect tof the people who dropped off probably won't come back. Yah I tired it and it sucked. Lemmy blew it's big chance. Yes it has grown but could have been bigger.
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I saw one that said they would stay until Reddit charges a fee to use the site…like why are they staying??? JUST FUCKING LEAVE
One even said “there are no viable alternatives” when talking about Reddit, like excuse me what the fuck?
I'll probably get hate, but the content just isn't there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I'd follow on Reddit just weren't on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it's just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn't much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan
PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs
Honestly that's been a bit of a plus in the sense I'm spending much less time scrolling mindlessly on my phone. Of course I'd prefer that reduced time to be of a higher quality but the pros outweigh the cons for me
Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times
I always assumed that since both upvote and downvote counters are visible, it won't be the case. But boy I was wrong. The political/news posts are always a constant shitshow reminiscent of T_D.
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I think because they are uninformed. They are looking for alternatives, and don't know about Lemmy, or don't understand Lemmy, etc.
Unfortunately, to understand lemmy is to be on lemmy. You have to be here and experience it.
They have to make that leap of faith. There's nothing to lose anyway, there's no requirement to delete reddit to become a lemmy user. So what's holding them back. Mauve they believe the anti lemmy post on reddit or maybe they just say they want to leave reddit but has no real desire to follow through.
What a shame. Imagine if all those users were aware about the Fediverse
these people are the same group of people that won't leave twitter. some people just live to be miserable and complain about things one hundred percent in their control.
it's insane and i can't wrap my brain around it.
It seems to be human nature that people are resistant to change, and it appears that are kombat instincts from when we were monkeys that can only be satiated these days by arguing on the internet and complaining.
You're simply have to find a way to take the soul out of the human and put into something better. unfortunately I don't know that Souls exist
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering.... Leaving
Reminds me of people who keep voting for politicians they supposedly can't stand.
There are no viable Alternatives because they won't come here, to the viable alternative. Seriously I would love to be able to go on special interest boards again but unfortunately the crowd is still on Lemmy.
Who's prostate do I have to massage with a rubber glove in order to get a simple conversation about Dragon Quest going on around here?
Americans confused at what month "27" is
I’m American and confused by what the 2023 day is. YYYYMMDD ftw
ISO8601 all day, every day
It’s the second marchcember of the year!
This is a reddit or even Twitter level shit comment. Please take your ignorant self back to either of those platforms. The dumb American trope is overused, largely inaccurate, and tired. Steal some new material from someone more witty and try again.
Just migrated from Reddit to Lemmy. This was my final straw.
I missed it this time. I left in June.
Care to summarize what happened?
Same. I was super frustrated with the killing off of Apollo. This is more than frustrating, it should be illegal. Oh wait, it is is some countries just not the US…
Never mind. I seen it further down.
Welcome to the club
Don't forget to donate to your chosen instances to keep them going.
Self-hosters donating to themselves
And the Lemmy devs
When Boost for Lemmy went live, I didn't even hesitate to uninstall Reddit.
Thankfully Boost came out the same week Relay went to monthly subscription only. I actually forgot I had set Boost to install automatically when the app was released.
I spent the few days before Boost was released giving the official Reddit app another shot, and remembering why I hate it so much.
Boost making it easy to sign up and get started was the final step on my path away from Reddit.
Same thing. I specifically waited for Boost for Lemmy to release in order to create an account. It feels familiar enough, so no problem.
Fuck reddit! I'm never going to contribute to that website.
What is Boost? Searching for it pulls up a bunch of different things.
What happened this time?
Oh wow. I booted up Boost this morning as usual, scrolled for 10-15 minutes, and didn't realize I was on Lemmy instead of Reddit until this post.
Trying to sub to something from other instance is still pain in the ass tho. Especially when you're from a small instance so everything is somewhere else.
Agreed. I really hope (and honestly think) that third party tools (and Boost particularly) will improve discoverability as the ecosystem grows. Being able to see other servers' communities and Local feed will be a big step toward getting across the usability hurdle and getting more people here.
"Multireddits" (for lack of a better word), too. Maybe call them "community bundles." I'm subscribed to like five different (functionally identical) Star Trek communities, for instance; being able to group them all together and suppress/merge crossposts would be fantastic.
I find it fascinating that their own app can be so horrible when there are so many amazing alternatives that exist(ed)
I didn't switch over to Lemmy right away after Reddit Is Fun shut down. I was mad, but I gave their app a shot.
What a pile of durian
I tried reading the opera subreddit the other day just from a browser,first time I'd been there since RIF died, and it's a shitshow.
As I removed everything from all my Reddit accounts and deleted them, except my porn account for some nieche fetishes, I don’t care. Let it die and save the porn.
Absolutely, though to be fair I trust the anonymous random people running the thousands of fediverse instances and communities far less than a legitimate, traceable company that gets third party audited and has to, at least, follow national laws.
I don't love Reddit's owners obviously, but yeah. When it comes to privacy, I don't have any misconceptions about Lemmy being private in the least. Unfortunately :-(
The difference is advertising. Lemmy has no incentive to sell you out. A company like reddit will squeeze every legal penny out of your personal info and then some more illegally if they think they can get away with it.
The US has zero privacy laws and, as far as I know, Reddit follows zero audit frameworks (eg SOC 2). Additionally, Reddit currently does not follow its legal burden under state laws.
I’m not saying your mistrust of the fediverse is wrong. I am saying your trust of corporations is completely unfounded and very naive. Trusting the US to do anything is equally naive (see Yahoo, Experian, and multiple alphabet agencies).
Unfortunately, reddit has been too long and entrenched in society to "remove" it from our browsers. It is very different from Twitter or another social network. Lemmy is a great project. I hope it works and establishes itself as a real alternative, but it still has a long way to go. Unfortunately, the Reddit/Lemmy format is resource intensive, and that's the problem with a service like this.
It's my simple opinion. I support any fediverso project, but reddit, today I think it is irreplaceable.
That's very true!
Thanks to the whole blackout thing and the many amazing apps that came to Lemmy (like Sync that I'm using rn and loving), Lemmy is now good enough to replace Reddit for the new content (at least in my opinion)
But Reddit is not (or at least not only) an "what's happening now" social network like Twitter and there is a huge amount of old content on it that can still really useful. So I guess that, in the best scenario, we'll have Reddit and Lemmy cohexist and complement each other :)
Fuck spez, man
I really hope that reddit will shut down
It won't shut down. I see it more going the way of Yahoo - a once juggernaut that stumbles along a shell of its former self.
Not until people stop using it.
Pretty much this. As much as l love the fediverse, there's still way too many people on reddit giving it way too much activity, especially in gaming: two of the biggest communities I've frequented over the course of this year are still only active on reddit.
Other platforms, like lemmy or discord, either have little to none activity on certain topics like the former, or are poorly designed and lackkng to allow its users to search for stuff properly like the latter.
These days I'm much more diverse with my Internet activity, which is good, but man I wish more people just dumped reddit, especially from the communities I needed to drop it the most.
no, it won't, nor will xitter of facebook. it's delusional to think multi-billion-dollar-platforms backed by big money, the content industry and several clandestine consortiums will cease operation because a single digit percentage of users decided that some hobbyist internet platforms held together by tape and a hail marry are the future. we'll be lucky if places like this are still around in a few years.
then it wont contain the toxic users
Missing the whole point. Companies will not stop serving ads or selling data. Setup custom dns from somewhere like nextdns or a private pihole computer on your network. It works in windows, can get a micro pc from eBay or Amazon for <$150, then block ANYTHING you don't like.
I don't see ads at all anymore at home, in fact it's jarring when a page takes 2x time to load because of ads and shit.
Get these plugins at bare minimum: Ublock origin Sponsorblock Bitwarden or similar (not LastPass) for strong password management.
Stop crying about companies and take some steps to protect yourself.
That's not going to stop Reddit from tracking your interactions with their site if you use it. They will sell your activity to whoever wants it. Updoots, posts read, subscriptions, saves - all potentially valuable data about a potential customer's interests.
If everyone starts blocking ads, who cares where my "data" goes.
Why not both. Protecting yourself from shitty behavior is important, but so is calling it out when you see it.
jfc do not use LastPass. They have a proven track record of shitty security practices and multiple breaches.
1password, bitwarden, keeper, even chrome but not LastPass.
We have also KeePass for a local/non-internet solution
Installing uBlock is so easy, it blows my mind when people won't do it. You set it and forget it, and no more ads. WTF, people.
What is wrong with last pass?
All vault data has been stolen in the past, and while the data is encrypted, apparently the encryption is not strong enough and there are reports that some of the vault has been decrypted by hackers: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/09/experts-fear-crooks-are-cracking-keys-stolen-in-lastpass-breach/
Repeatedly have data stolen and data leaks. Fuck them. Also bait and switch to a one device or pay.
You're exaggerating a little bit. Reddit is more alive than alive.
The best part is, the normies are probably going to stay on read it no matter what. Meeting we can have a picture of what the internet must have been like before the endless September, now that's a boomer ass reference if anyone ever heard one.
It will be like that, plus political posts.
Because people are addicted to spreading their political opinions like evangelists of old.
And they never think you mean them when you ask them to stop, becuse then other team is evil, and inserting their political opinions in to everything is their personality now. It's tut only way they can get them likes.
Social media changed society and sadly, I don't think escaping to the Fediverse can out run the political borest.
Because people are addicted to spreading their political opinions like evangelists of old.
Luckily that only generally seems to be Americans. So if you could all kindly tag yourselves in your profiles as such it would make it a lot easier to filter. /s
Sure, there's always some low-level background muttering about politics in other countries, but the USA has really taken the cult of personality/political party to it's absolute max.
Looking from the outside in, I pin the beginnings of this on the pledge of allegiance. Indoctrinated a whole bunch of young boomers into the idea that the USA was at the pinnacle of society, and once you blindly believe that, your eyes are closed to the actual issues. Rinse and repeat for a few generations and here we are, watching a country tear itself apart via a political system stained with polarisation, bias and narcissism.
I think we will see the damage reversed, part of that is going to involve finding these places that have become the centralized forces of the internet go under. Something Twitter and Reddit are doing as they drive things off the platform
Need to replace the star with a clown, but I guess it already has a clown nose lol
@ZWho63 Can I comment lemmy posts from mastodon?
My findings so far:
- Can I edit it? (Yes I can)- Pictures attached on mastodon don't show up on lemmy.
- Some replies don't show up on lemmy.ml, but visible on fosstodon.org and https://pawb.social.
- Link to pawb.social is not linkified without https:// prefix.
An example of two attached screenshots that are visible only on fosstodon: https://fosstodon.org/@abcdw/111152102681928222
So on Mastadon do you see Lemmy posts as the Mastadon equivalent of a Tweet?
I never see posts and comments from Mastadon users on Lemmy even though I believe it's more popular so you would expect there to be more or at least a similar number as from Lemmy users. I think your comment is only the second I've seen from Mastadon users.
Like the other reply says, the user tag of the last Mastadon user I saw was [name]@null, though yours is fine for me now. Also odd that your attached images don't show even though Lemmy has that feature too. Maybe these issues will be ironed out soon
@Rambi Yes, you can see how it looks here:
https://fosstodon.org/@abcdw/111152102681928222It seems attaching pictures doesn't work both ways (I don't see attached pictures from lemmy user in mastodon too).
any script to remove posts and favourites?
https://github.com/x89/Shreddit
Mind the caveats.
thanks /u/[email protected] !
EDIT: in progress :)
just be sure to adapt the script
shreddit/shredder.py
https://github.com/x89/Shreddit/issues/165#issuecomment-993879798
I just deleted my account because I was inspired by this post this morning. I hadn't logged in since the last drama here, so fuck them. I'm getting by just fine with Lemmy.
Still have my account, even though I haven't logged in for months.
What happend to reddit? I only know that most 3rd party apps shut down because of the API costs
as if
Old.reddit.com, ublock, VPN. Good luck, spez.
Checks numbers* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DEAD
What's worse, the face on that star or the backwards date format?
I'd say face. I'm fine with lemmy not being so US centric.
But I'd appreciate it if we just all moved to yyyymmddThat's a bingo. Year month day is the only way.
