DAE feel a bit out of the pop culture loop using Lemmy as their primary social media?
I love interacting with you all very much, and I know there's a lot of important political issues in the world going on right now. I love my Linux Mint setup, I support Palestine and trans people, and I've blazed through all of OG Star Trek, TNG, Voyager, and am now on DS9.
But I also want to discuss Luka to the Lakers and Kendrick calling Drake a pedophile and getting 5 Grammy's, a tour, and a Superbowl halftime show out of it, you know? I wanna talk about your country's Eurovision entries. Am I just not in the right communities?
'there is no posts related to my interests'
'go to domains specific to your interests!'
domain specific to your interests: last post is a reddit screenshot from 3 months ago, 0 comments
You can always create posts in appropriate communities to start conversations on topics you're interested in. Be the change you wish to see in the world.
I don't care much for most pop culture stuff and get enough by happenstance from other sources/people.
Gonna be honest, pop culture is the thing about Reddit I miss the least. I couldn't care less what drama some rich people are getting into, unless that drama is their yachts being sunk by killer whales.
Tbf, Kendrick Lamar is an unbelievably talented musician. Drake is just a lame ass celebrity, you can easily ignore him and be better off.
But Kendrick has made some really fantastic albums. If you're not into rap than you might not care too much anyway, but he doesn't belong in the same conversation as Drake, despite their dumb ass feud.
I don't even like hip-hop that much but Section 80 and Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City are easily among my favorite albums of all time.
Not him, per se, but the realization that I'm part of the same species with people who care about foreign royalty, what some actor was wearing, or a rap feud. Cripes, there's even a separate Wikipedia entry about it, which somehow meets the notability requirement.
I think this is a problem with the Fediverse in general.
Search Kendrick Lamar on BlueSky and it's filled with people celebrating it, breaking down different aspects of the show, and making memes. Search the same on Mastodon and you get news articles about the show and the occasional personal post. A majority of the posts have 0 engagement on most of the posts.
I think that's more mastodon's flawed search than anything. Cause it'll only look for the specific term, so if someone don't use Kendrick's full name, it's not gonna show up. Or if you look by tag, you won't see much anything cause no one tags half their stuff
Would you be interested in my 4 000 word thinkpiece on how Kamala Harris' campaign co-opting Charli XCX's Brat Summer is a perfect encapsulation of the how the neoliberal mechanisms in the United States try to use cultural capital to mask their regressive politics? Trump appearing on Joe Rogan, and George Bush's "drinking a beer with the little guy" will also make appearances.
Only when it comes to hearing about new games. For all the people I see in random non-game threads that mention games or get game references, there's next to no activity in the game-related communities.
I feel that. I find it funny that the retro gaming communities here are more active than the regular ones lol, unless a big gaming company does something shitty (as they are always doing).
I once thought about making a post about how funny it is that Godzilla, the embodiment of the horrors of nuclear war, and Hatsune Miku are now in a game doing the griddy together. But then I realised I didn't want to get absolutely roasted for playing Fortnite with my friends every now and then.
I specifically came here because I was uninterested in the pop culture chat that I was seeing in my socials. I want to talk to more people in less mainstream nerd culture
I hear you. I could go on about how pop culture is lame etc and not really answer your question but I think, the more the merrier. If I'm not interested in the Lakers, I can ignore it and scroll past it. Easy. It would be nice for people who want to discuss the Lakers to have a place to discuss the Lakers, though.
Honestly this place is starting to piss me off a little bit sometimes. Because it's like the users here actually want 'All' to just be politics all the time and for there to be no variety to anything. You can talk about missing features from Reddit and think of ideas to make this place a little better and you'll get responses like "No. Why would anyone want more features? I know that I don't have to personally use them if I don't like them but I prefer pretending it's 1998, so no one can have them. And why would we want more users? I like empty communities with no activity. And then complaining about empty communities with no activity."
So I dunno. It's gonna be interesting to see if this place actually grows or if it just stagnates. I'm right there with you though. I'd be more than happy to see pop and sports and things I'm not really interested in because then there's a bigger chance of things that I am actually interested in taking off here.
I hear you. I could go on about how pop culture is lame etc and not really answer your question but I think, the more the merrier. If I’m not interested in the Lakers, I can ignore it and scroll past it. Easy. It would be nice for people who want to discuss the Lakers to have a place to discuss the Lakers, though.
Thank you for this! I got a few comments being like "Why would you want to, pop culture is vapid" and like...I know T_T, but that doesn't make ME vapid. Some people go on COD or whatever to blow off steam after work, I just want to go on my non-corporate social media to discuss how the Lakers traded away their future for AD and somehow STILL CAME OUT ON TOP (I have been praying for their downfall my entire life and it continues to not work).
Honestly this place is starting to piss me off a little bit sometimes.
What you describe is a vocal minority. It's pretty obvious that most of the users wouldn't wind getting the place getting at least twice as active.
Not sure if I mentioned it to you, but you are aware of [email protected] ? I'm going to start daily threads there to promote non-political communities
You are a shining light in this place when it comes to promoting growth. So just so we're clear, because I've discussed features and stuff with you a couple of times now, I was not picturing you when I made my comment here. You're more or less carrying this place on your back as far as guiding and encouraging new users goes. So also thank you, you rock.
And yup. I've seen you promoting this community lol and I'm already subscribed!
I wonder if there should be a more generic pop-culture discussion thread to get it started. I know I enjoy a few aspects of pop-culture and would like to discuss. If you start it people will join
This is what I'm kind of thinking too, like a r/popculture chat, but less related to celebrities and more about general non-political happenings. Maybe I'll message my instance admin and see what hosting something like that entails.
Anything black/“urban” generally gets heavily downvoted on Lemmy. Haven’t figured out why. With all the other heavy virtue signaling you’d think it would also be pushed.
It’s one of the many things that aggravates me about my experience here. I went back to Reddit after over a year of only spending it here.
I've noticed this too, but I didn't really want to say anything because I don't want to get into internet drama. I'm overwhelmed from this post as is lol.
Not really. I find that most "pop culture" still gets talked about, it just doesn't get pushed into everyone's face by an algorithm.
If I drift away from my subscribed feed and look at the all feed, it doesn't take long for something or another about pop culture to pop up. And then if I'm interested, I go to the particular community that's talking about it and subscribe. The more I do that, the more interests start to show up in my subscribed feed.
For the most part, these communities all exist, there's just no algorithm saying "hey...you'll probably like this". And so you have to find them yourself.
I’m exclusively on the fediverse, I don’t feel disconnected from pop culture at all. There is a lot of politics and meta discussion, I’ll give you that
It’s hard to figure out why some communities show up and others don’t on the search. It’s definitely a good idea to subscribe to [email protected] and other communities like it to make sure you don’t miss them when they come up. I think someone was working on a better search for Lemmy but it seems to be abandoned
It's a bit of a mixed bag, and the real thing is that there are other people who want to talk about it here. Trust me, I run a Taylor Swift community here, and it is an uphill battle - but it's worth it because there are people who care and enjoy the community.
If you're up for it, choose one or two communities and then nurture them. When reddit imploded 2 years ago we came over and we had a ton of people open hundreds of communities and then abandon them, people just opened them left and right and then expected a large audience the next day. Instead expect it to follow the 90-9-1 rule. Out of a hundred people, 90 of them will lurk and never participate. 9 will comment, and one will post. You will need to be the one to post for a while - but it will grow over time.
Take care of the communities, let them know you're here to stay, and that it's a place where you can chat about it. We're a lot of nerds here, but nerds can also like football, there's [email protected] that is usually pretty quiet but obviously people subscribed to it.
Kudos on trying to keep the TS community alive here. I don't really follow her outside of whatever hits the radio/wider pop culture news, but I remember when I moved to Lemmy your community would hit my front page and I was insanely jealous of everyone kee-keeing together in the comments. Maybe you're right and I should start shitposting about my hobbies on Lemmy, but dang it's hard going from a consumer to an active poster in any social media lol.
It really is, but I've found that a surprisingly large amount of people like what I like. I also mod [email protected] and honestly when I post there it's mostly just screenshots. People then ask questions and it's a good time, if news drops or a video drops I'll just paste a link in there, something to get the discussion going. There's also some other great members who do similar. That's really all it takes to get a small community off the ground
I maintain that we need to be funneling engagement into fewer communities. I mod [email protected] but I probably shouldn’t. It should probably be co-located with a 3D printing community, but the name makes anybody doing subtractive or 2D feel excluded.
In a perfect world, maybe there’d be a “Makers” community that was, sure, 70% 3D printing, but the other 30% wouldn’t feel like they needed to leave and shout into a void, and people into 3D printing would get to see cool shit done with other tools.
The APIpocalypse resulted in a land grab followed immediately by “Wagons East!” back to Reddit by many of the new mods, leaving us with every named neighborhood we might want, yet feeling Balkanized because you feel like you should respect the communities’ boundaries, but there isn’t anyone there in the “perfect” one and likely won’t be for some time.
In a perfect world, maybe there’d be a “Makers” community that was, sure, 70% 3D printing, but the other 30% wouldn’t feel like they needed to leave and shout into a void, and people into 3D printing would get to see cool shit done with other tools.
I’ve seen a lot of communities shift instances and change names. At least that seems to work here, so I wouldn’t feel too bad about disrespecting the unmoderated ones.
Like, I can belong to a social group without being bombarded with nonsense that is just noise meant to distract.
It's the same kind of liberation and control I felt when switching to Linux (since you mentioned it) - one decision, and the entirety of Windows drama is no longer relevant to me. I'm part of a much smaller, much more concentrated group of real people, in a sort of blissful silence to which I only admit the information and people I find worth my attention.
Some people recommend dual booting. I recommend having at least one cheap SBC in your home that's dedicated to running Linux, and eventually to keep Windows on big enough machines for professional work, video games, and so on.
But the kids? Sure, they should run Linux, unless specified otherwise by their schools, until they're old enough to decide by themselves.
I'd encourage you to push for free software if you're stuck on Windows, but that's another issue, I just think you might keep this machine on Windows and install Linux on a lowtech computer. It depends on what you need Linux for but with my eeePC the only bottleneck is the web.
I'm of multiple minds on it, but the short of it is, I don't feel out of the pop culture loop, I know I'm out of it being around here.
On one hand I don't mind that, as I'm frustrated by pop culture essentially being mass market culture. It's not typically something that arises from people interacting and creating together from shared passions, it's produced and pushed by big businesses. Nothing novel about this observation or frustration, but it's a vibe I resonate with.
On the other I know if ever you want people to shift into a popular culture produced in the alternative manner mentioned, you gotta accept the transitional situation of entertaining the mass market culture alongside what you're trying to cultivate. It's too jarring for many to switch over entirely, and frankly there's not enough contemporary non-commercial culture to keep people's interest to justify any attempts at a complete switch.
So in a way, yeah, but also I'm more bummed that it's so difficult to create an alternative non-commercial pop culture.
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'cause capitalism trying to monopolize everybody's time and make everyone feel they gotta make everything make money
This comment resonated with me a lot. I think I am in the same boat as you, and one of the reasons I am happy to use Lemmy as my primary method of social media/online engagement/whatever is that I am SO SICK of having algorithms pushing what I should like or be discussing. But also, people who are engaged enough to think like this are sometimes a bit too serious and (sorry to use a potentially dated term) I miss the normies a little bit, lol.
So in a way, yeah, but also I’m more bummed that it’s so difficult to create an alternative non-commercial pop culture.
This is so real. Unironically, I miss BBS communities where you had threads/subcategories for whatever niches you had, and then when something big happened it would get pinned to the top and EVERYONE would swarm to it. Discord tries to do that, but it's remotely not the same.
I made a community for survival horror games because I like them and like talking about it. Build it and they will come. Make a community to talk about things you like and those with similar interests will join.
I would probably subscribe, as I love collecting and discussing all kinds of random events.
Youtube has been my main source for this stuff since I left reddit for good. I really went deep into Kanye/Drake since it was still considered a rap battle.
I watched hours of the Sean Combs development.
Mr Beast drama has been a big part of my entertainment as well.
And while my Youtube feed is usually sports free, I couldnt escape the Donçic transfer.
I dont watch TV or streaming services, so this is my entertainment before going to bed. Giving me world-politics that late just keeps me awake.
But you can't really...discuss a meme, if you know what I'm trying to say (sorry I just woke up). In my post I gave examples of world events as my "pop culture". I'm not really discussing memes around a water cooler, you know?
I haven't followed pop culture since about 1985. I've never heard of Kendrick or Drake (apart from Sir Francis Drake and Nick Drake, and of course you can't mean either of them, given they died in 1596 and 1974 respectively).
I like it here, not least because I understand a lot more of the things people talk about than I ever did on Reddit. Perhaps the users here tend to be older on average, I don't know. There are certainly fewer people than over there, and that must account for some of the differences in content scope.
All the power to you! I think I also like it here for similar reasons as you. I can get a lot of advice and perspectives from people older than me without being called a slur.
For example: I learned about Iran-Contra from someone who was actually living during it and explained to me why exactly it was seen as Carter's failure, when I have the power of hindsight and history and can see how it was clearly manufactured. At no point was I called a bleeding heart or libtard during that explanation, even though the person made it clear they voted for Reagan. It was nice!
This is true, but 1) It's hard going from a passive consumer of a community to a facilitator of discussions (I have anxiety issues lol) but also 2) It's hard to even know/find if there's a community TO post in, you know?
Maybe I'm just a Lemmy noob after almost two years here, but I do find community discoverability harder here, and there's always discussions of fractionating communities even further. I don't want to risk creating a new community, take up server space that my instance host generously provides, and then find out it was redundant.
Yes, although a lot of current pop culture stuff is so vapid, commercialized, and unstimulating that I could not care less about it.
I’d like a good place to keep up with and search for local events, follow local businesses, and discuss hobbies and lesser known series but without being beholden to a corrupt billionaire who owns the social medium and without rewarding bigotry and mis/dis/malinformation with advertising revenue. I’ve found a couple of Discord servers that only partially fill some of these niches. Some of these problems can be resolved by growing Lemmy communities around certain topics, but I don’t think most social media/marketing managers would publicize on media with relatively few eyeballs.
Does anybody have a plug-in or a web function that can, for example, transfer a company’s Facebook page’s post history offsite? Also looking for a good live feed of events in an area? (I tried Eventbrite once but I got scammed with the refund denied)
I’ve been thinking today about how the mainstream means of mass communication and organization have been taken by corporations and grifters who manipulate them to algorithmically reward ignorance and bigotry, and how these social functions need to be seized back for effective and lasting progress to be made. Education is next on the chopping block.
I don't feel out of it, but I also use tiktok, ig reels (suprisingly amazing algorithim, least controversial, my 3d edm visual profile (amateur af) only sees 3d and edm reels for the most part, doesn't really favor low follower counts but its great for popular stuff.
I miss old twitter, wondering if any mastodon or pleroma instance is like that. Sharkey seems more tumblr ppls vibe. It was always current and fun to talk in.
Reddits out of it forsure, ppl can identify a redditor and its never a compliment lol. I always hated when ppl called me on, but they were spot on. Lemmy's not too bad, ppl just dont seem to care about pop culture here, might be due to lack of communities or posters, gotta be the change you want to see in growing communities like this.
I need to start posting more stuff on the edm ones, I feel out of the loop there and want them to be as active as reddit was.
Ngl, Mastodon is closer to feeling like Lemmy than Twitter. I know it's heresy to say here, but Bluesky is probably the closest feeling to old Twitter, including the random 3am hole pics on "What's Hot" lol. I scroll there, but I don't post bc I find talking on Lemmy a nicer experience tbh.
I also find it interesting that you find IG Reels a better algo for you than Tiktok, because most people say their Reels algo is a MESS. You must have curated your follows and likes pretty well.
Yeah I unfollow ppl if they like stuff I dont like since it taints the algorithim, for the most part I get a suprisingly decent feed on my official real person account, and a really good one for my 3d visuals account.
I like seeing other ppls likes, my whole twitter feed used to be some of my friends likes that ithe algorithim realized I enjoyed (itd show who liked it when showing you the post) my feed went to shit after they turned that off.
I just bought an hd antenna for free over the air channels. It's apparent the elderly are whom those channels cater to. There is layers of pop culture and you connect to the layer you want to connect with.
As a CEO you may either attract more contents creators by paying them more or by lowering the quality of your editorial curation. It means you may either risk bankruptcy or knowingly foster depression at a global scale, unless like Mozilla's Pocket you chose to piggyback on a decentralized model and have no skin in the game.
People have brought up Kendrick Lamar but I'm sorry, he's never been recommended by my partner's Spotify account. Not even once.
Pop culture allows people with a voice/audience to have their say which influences the cultural zeitgeist.
Take Kendrick Lamar since I’m a huge fan and OP mentioned him specifically.
In 2018 he earned a Pulitzer Prize for Music, making history as the first non-classical or non-jazz artist to win. The Pulitzer board praised the album Damn for its “virtuosic song collection unified by its vernacular authenticity and rhythmic dynamism that offers affecting vignettes capturing the complexity of modern African American life”. Essentially, the album was recognised for its deep storytelling, social commentary, and innovative musical composition.
It’s incredibly reductive to label all pop culture as mindless drivel. When if you look, there are actually many artists who have a message to spread and are socially conscious.
This is a bit mean. Just because I want to talk about the WEIRDEST trade in the modern NBA (that has collusion vibes all over it), doesn't mean I am vapid and shallow.
I volunteer a lot in my community and mutual aid spaces, and things have gotten a lot worse since the pandemic. Talking about so called "vapid" social topics is how a lot of us avoid burnout.
Also if you watched Kendrick's Superb Owl performance, saw the message he was trying to portray about black empowerment, how ANGRY the establishment MAGAbros are over it, and still think of it as mindless drivel...maybe you're part of the problem.
God forbid people enjoy light hearted and mindless entertainment. Do you think they must be focused on whatever you think is important all of the time?
The problem, I find, is that it's very discouraging to do here. Much of the Fediverse is completely averse to mainstream media/pop culture. Even if you create your own community on your own instance, others will see it in their feed and will downvote it and tell you why they don't like it. And whether or not those users outnumber the users who would actually want to engage with that type of content, they are definitely the louder group.
This feels like some kind of religious catechism, uttered to allay the suspicions of those who might question your standing as a member of a virtuous tribe.
Personally, I support Palestine and Israel, trans people and feminists. The world is complicated, history even more so, and individual moral situations must be judged on their merits.
I like to think that one difference between mainstream social media and this place is that here people might choose to think a bit more.
Your phrasing makes it appear as if trans people and feminists are on opposite sides of an issue, which they aren't. Only a small subset of feminism-appropriating weirdoes call themselves anti-trans feminists.
And your inflammatory vocab choices suggest that you're not interested in calm discussion over issues where people's individual rights do, indeed, sometimes come into conflict.
Genocide is a big powerful word that gets your blood pumping, that's why you use it twice in the same sentence. But what exactly was October 7th, for you?
There are no massive contradictions here, only a lot of ignorant keyboard warriors who look at a complex world and see black and white.
No, because Lemmy isn't social media. It's a link aggregator.
Social media requires you to know who the other people are, or at least that the identity and personality of the other people posting matters to what you consume. Apart from one or two attention-seeking exceptions, I almost never notice who posted something.
In fact, Lemmy being a Reddit clone, you may remember Reddit stirring controversy for years as they did try to become social media - adding avatars, followers functions, chat groups, etc.; none of which really suit the platform or its audience. Perhaps as the audience has changed they've gotten what they wanted.
If "social media" is just the ability to comment anonymously on Internet content and argue with strangers, then the guest book on my Geocities soccer page was social media.
most of social media is anonymous, ill remember you theoctonaut from mander, that makes this social media, I remember some users and see them pop up all the time, theres a social aspect, its not just sharing links
Again, by this criteria the comments section of a Fox News article is a social media platform. There has to be some form of intent. You could use PasteBin to have a conversation, that wouldn't make it a messaging application.
The big events of my Sunday were [email protected] and Monsterdon. I consider this an absolute win. My cousin was telling me something about some halftime show but I was like huh?
Mixed feelings about Eurovision entries. I like seeing them without expectations. I had no warning that Kaarija's Cha Cha Cha or Go_A's SHUM were gonna be as epic as they are. I'll probably be on Mastodon when Eurovision's live.
Anyway, nothing's keeping you from the mainstream social media if that's where you'll find what you need. You're always welcome here!
I don't. We have most of the news everyone else has, if not the same. So i feel up to date on world events on the days i don't bother reading actual news.(Although id prefer less USA news everywhere)
For entertainment there are comms, especially on .ee that cater to movies and tv well enough. Though some stuff slips by, but that's ok.
For more specific things it helps to search for whatever subject you're interested in. Barring Superbowl, which is actually Superb Owl, I'm sure there's people here talking about the game and the show. Sports is definitely covered on lemmy.
If there isn't that you can find, then make it happen. People interested will reapond if you post it.