A massive protest formed in downtown Los Angeles on Sunday in response to President Trump’s crackdown on immigration and emphasis on deportations. The protest, which was organized and promote…
Under Trump’s new orders, ICE is now allowed to target migrants at sensitive locations, like schools and churches, for arrests and potential deportations.
And FUCKING HOSPITALS. And quizzing people about their immigration status when they seek help for a medical emergency.
It would have taken fewer words to just not excise hospitals from your partial list of "sensitive locations," but I can see why you wouldn't want to talk about it. It's real fucked up.
Police do not have freedom to easily arrest people at large protests. This whole protest was breaking the law at various points and the article didn't even know if anyone has been arrested.
No matter how bad it gets, people still show up. Love that "Don't bite the hands that feed you" sign.
If anyone's interested, the Red Card resource mentioned in the news coverage "created by the Immigrant Legal Resource Center (ILRC) and are available in 16 languages from Spanish to Haitian Creole to Tigrinya." Anyone wanting to leave these lying around, you don't need to order them. Just buy a few business card printer sheets and DIY.
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“It’s important to know that a lot of productive activity is happening in person and offline, too. Not all of it can be broadcast online, but we’ve had hundreds of people showing up to our trainings, mobilizations, and more. Keep going. Tyranny is eroded by a sea of small acts. Everything matters.” - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, sometime yesterday
Yup, "designated protest zones" with a permit were designed to preserve the illusion of protest while removing the efficacy in the wake of the civil rights movement, removing protest from the eyelines, profit operations, and governmental operation of those being protested.
If a protest isn't disruptive, it's masturbation. Might feel good, but it won't do shit.
Just as with our American free speech, it's been neutered into not mattering, and it will be silenced on for profit media and buried/quieted on for profit social media if it's an opinion the oligarchs don't want to be spread, just like Luigi when they realized nothing they could propagandize using their for profit bully pulpits would turn our crony capitalist beaten citizenry against him.
Idk about that, mate. If used correctly the permits would have stopped the racist gathering in Charlottesville for "Unite the Right" and even though it was permitted it was also still highly effective as a show of intimidation and awareness of their racist message.
Something we all need to come to terms with is when we make rules it doesn't just apply to our enemies and doesn't just apply to us, either.
I was just coming to say this, Trump is delighted people are taking to the streets to blame California and Newsom for his ICE gestapo raids. I mean I get you want to take to the streets to vent your fear and anger pushing for change, but to gridlock Los Angeles for something neither LA nor California want and are working as hard as they can to prevent, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Buses to DC, to camp out in the tens of thousands would be more meaningful, though a great many of these people are probably targets of ICE in the frist pace, and that'd just be rounding themselves rounding them all up, and if they showed up in force to DC, Trump would deport them all, US citizens or not.
After having a little rethink, I get it now, Los Angeles is the safest place they can protest like this in these numbers. I support this.
I overheard (coworker on break) a video saying ICE in NYC was only targeting criminals and gang members. So far I haven't found a real source for that 'fact'
This has been amended to "there may be some collateral arrests" which mean anyone near their target who's brown and first language isn't English is getting rounded up too
It's probably true, in the sense that anyone they arrest is automatically a criminal. Ever get a speeding ticket? Criminal, deported. Oh you say you're a citizen? This document is fake, criminal, deported. Resisting arrest? Criminal, deported.
Trump decided to include anyone that is in the country illegally in the criminal category, and I'm sure they can find an even wider brush to paint with down the line (participate in an unsanctioned protest? Criminal! Say something bad about Trump? Criminal!).
That's part of their plan. They start by more aggressively tracking down, arresting, and deporting the people with the most severe criminal records who have probably been already already convicted of a deportable offense. They can go around saying how they've got these actual criminals that "Biden allowed to stay" and be telling enough of the truth that it works.
The next step is to start going after people with mild criminal records, maybe shoplifting or an assault charge from a bar fight. People who wouldn't normally be eligible to deport. People who are here maybe legally maybe not.
Then they start revoking legal status from people by just accusing them of petty crimes and deporting them without due process. This is what the new law they just passed with Democrats support allows the government to do now.
Yes please. For the love of God it's not too late.
I get the feeling of defeat. It sucks. But we must come together and stop this fascist takeover before it's too late, whether you're a conservative, liberal, or leftist we need to join hands and fight for a nation for the people. Luigi was a right leaning libertarian.
Seriously, the train has left the station and if we don't derail this train now it's going to mean we're finally handing all of our remaining power to self important narcissistic billionaires. America isn't for sale and it's not a business, it's our home, it belongs to us. These gross conmen pricks who think they know more than us because they got lucky in life think they can just take everything away by force.
Haven't you noticed that many "industries" are actively working to dismantle government?
This isn't like dynamiting a pond to obtain a fish for dinner. You select your targets. You shift your buying to non-corporate entities., like a National Black Farmer near you. You use a bike instead of a car, when you can. You prepare your own food instead of going to McDonalds. You slow down at work. You develop a like-minded community and help your neighbors. You grow a garden. Maybe you start your own business.
"Massive protest" - a few hundred to low thousands. For a city as large as LA this barely registers as a protest. I guess its better than nothing, but look at Berlin which has roughly the same population. There the Nazis arent even a majority power yet and the recent protest was still in the 200k range. USAmericans really are indifferent huh?
You know, these are brave people. They probably weighted the very real possibility to be thrown away of the country if they got raid. They still protested. But they weren't raid. Now they have shown the people can get to the streets and protest. The ICE will hardly do anything if the protests are big enough. I think there's hope.
I would have gone, but the first I heard of this was after the fact, right here on this post. You're right, it honestly surprises me that we aren't taking to the streets more though.
Personally I believe part of the problem is that corporate capture of our social interactions has effectively meant folks can’t get the word out and (sadly) they don’t realize it? Trying to organize on Facebook? That’s a mistake.
I’m not saying it’s what happened here but there’s a possibility it’s what’s going on more broadly. And by design.
Personally I’ve started building a tool (for the fediverse) to help make civil participation free of corporate interest. I’m sick of my town and local municipal services (and volunteer organizations) only posting to Facebook (and I’m not in the US!)
Existing tools are, in my opinion, not widely used and too clunky to appeal to those who’ve been lulled into using big-tech solutions.
I can't miss work to protest the federal government.
I get that disruption is important, but I need little things like food and a roof, and I have to work to secure those things no matter how much I hate the administration.
Yeah this was a bit harsh i admit. The fact that it has gotten to the point where so many people are actually just too poor to take the time to protest is a whole level of craziness by itself.
Still i think they wont have a choice other than overthrowing their government this time. Unless they somehow reign in their leadership they wont stay "just" poor they will struggle to survive at all. If things continue at the current pace the US will have tens of millions of additonal jobless and homeless people in a few months. Nevermind the complete infrastructure collapse due to lay offs in critical public sectors and budget cuts.
Hope do you know the people protesting today were criticizing the pro Palestinian protesters? What if the same people protesting today were also protesting then?
Peaceful demonstrations are little more than a relief valve for peoples frustration. You need to do something that gets a nonsensical name like "charged with curmudgeoning the public" which effectively meant you stopped money from transacting, or possibly needed a bath, but has since been expanded to included whatever shenanigans you got up to in you're non peaceful demonstration(non peaceful being any demonstration that has an impact apparently)