Massive protest against Trump deportations forms in downtown L.A. causing ‘major gridlock’
Massive protest against Trump deportations forms in downtown L.A. causing ‘major gridlock’
A massive protest formed in downtown Los Angeles on Sunday in response to President Trump’s crackdown on immigration and emphasis on deportations. The protest, which was organized and promote…
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Under Trump’s new orders, ICE is now allowed to target migrants at sensitive locations, like schools and churches, for arrests and potential deportations.
And FUCKING HOSPITALS. And quizzing people about their immigration status when they seek help for a medical emergency.
It would have taken fewer words to just not excise hospitals from your partial list of "sensitive locations," but I can see why you wouldn't want to talk about it. It's real fucked up.
And at large protests...
This is what allies are for.
This is what guns are for.
Both can be true. But only if you have enough people in either case.
If you want for the police to get an excuse to mow you down with a tank that is. They so wish some of you have guns so they can kill you and have a ready and ironclad excuse
It's not like they're above shooting unarmed protestors. Just compare how cops dealt with cop city with the Bundy occupation.
But that's the thing. Shooting unarmed protestors is fucked up even by their standards, they aren't above it, but they have to hide it and not everyone is having a good time about it, so there is tension and hesitation.
Shooting armed protestors is why they joined in the first place, it's what they dream of, it's everything that a cop ever wanted.
And a big portion of population that is not OK with the first scenario is also dreaming of the second one.
All they need is one agent provocateur for that, then.
One agent in a crowd of unarmed people will not cause that effect. But if everyone is on edge and carrying a gun, then yes, one will be enough to cause full blown massacre.
One agent in a crowd of unarmed people will not cause that effect.
It will if police are present and are looking for an excuse to violently quash protest.
I just want you to recognise the difference between "police mows down a crowd of unarmed protesters" and "police crushed armed insurrection in an intense shootout".
It just takes one provocateur to make that difference. The number of actual firearms at the protest doesn't matter as long as there's one, which the provocateur can bring.
No, it's demonstrably not true. Or do you think nobody ever does protest around the world and we can't study this shit?
Hell, there was the exact same situation in Ukraine in 2014, it's one of the best documented revolutions of the current era. Putin's cronies tried to do provocaterur shit, and shot back, and there was so much backlash to it from everywhere, this ultimately brought them defeat.
I once again want you to recognise the difference between “police mows down a crowd of unarmed protesters” and “police crushed armed insurrection in an intense shootout”, but this time I want you to do it for real, not just knee-jerking canned response.
Are you saying illegal immigrants should illegally obtain firearms?
Police do not have freedom to easily arrest people at large protests. This whole protest was breaking the law at various points and the article didn't even know if anyone has been arrested.
At this point why not just go out to farmlands and take people right out of the fields mid-work. See how that goes.