More than 50 Reddit communities ban X links to protest Musk

Lots of these subreddits don’t even get a lot of Twitter links in the first place. Like for lotrmemes it makes zero difference.

That's not true. Gondor uses Twitter instead of beacons to call for aid now.

However there still is some information, where Twitter is a good source.

I agree. There are some great OSINT posters that share all sorts of information you won't find anywhere else. For example when Israel struck back at Iran after the initial wave of missiles and drones- it was a guy on twitter who geolocated and found the satellite images of what they hit.

And that information directly contradicted the Israeli official narrative. You won't find it on NY Times. You won't find it on Washington Post. Hell, you'd have a hard time finding it here or on reddit. That's just one example, there's a wealth of live data about Russia v Ukraine as well. One thing I've really learned the last 3 years since 2022 is that the mainstream media will completely lie to you. It isn't just bias, it's outright lying. So people online who are dedicated to the truth and provide receipts, I find, is a breath of fresh air. It allows humans without privileged information to go online and actually see with their own eyes what is happening on the ground. It's something that frankly hasn't been the case for any time in human history. Although I think it's going to be a short window of time that will be true.

I think Twitter has progressively been becoming more censored. For now, most people are more or less ignored if you aren't talking about the hot topics- but I think very soon anything against official US narrative will be banned. Same thing with Facebook, Tiktok, etc.

We're seeing the social media sites align themselves with the US government in preparation for the next global war. The first thing to go in war is the truth. Soon there will be a giant firewall and we won't be able to see content from overseas. Initially people will be able to use VPNs and other methods and then eventually that will be met with criminal charges.

Most of these Reddit bans on Twitter are also half assed. They still allow screenshots of Twitter posts. That means the content is still spread, and Twitter remains relevant.

I wholeheartedly agree. I personally got fed up trying to make a new account recently where I got shadowbanned, where there’s accounts that steal posts from the past and repost them as new just to farm karma and they stay up despite bots detecting them as spam/reposts.

My point is if they’re looking to enforce something they should not do it in a half-assed way.

I did see a sub called fullmoviesonyoutube or something where a mod soloed the ban. Pretty amusing to read the user comments in that one

I feels like bizarro world if you fall somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum or don't really care about politics. Seems their are only two extremes and you have to drink the cool-aid of whatever site you're on or be suppressed. Whether you agree or disagree the push to ban twitter/x from all the sports subs was definitely a coordinated operation. Very troubling to me to see this kind of mass manipulation going on... these sports subs should have nothing to do with politics but maybe I'm the delusional one. I don't know.

If we like it or not, twitter is still the most important social network for journalisst and thinktankers.

I remember and that’s why I’m here reading your comment 🫡

I was the founder of r/TIHI in a past life and u/spez removed all of us moderators because we weren‘t opening the sub as part of our protest.

I them requested them to take down the subs title picture and logo which I created and they didn‘t even bother.

Yeah let’s see if they keep this up. In a few weeks they’ll cave in and say, “Well we want to keep people informed”.

This is a bit different from before. They aren't privating the subs this time, they're just doing their unpaid full time job by disallowing posts with untrusted sources.

Does Reddit have some sort of contract with X with regards to sharing of content? I know they have one with OpenAI.

And start banning mods who don’t support Musk and Nazism, wholeheartedly.

Even wearing super cyclical goggles, it doesn't make sense for reddit to intervene here. Twitter is a competitor, why would they want to encourage people to link to a competitor?

Oh yes for the totally unproblematic picture taken at the inauguration, and since it's so unproblematic he can't possibly have an issue with it being posted.

Although a solid second favorite is him in a punk leather jacket. Mostly because he hates it.

I would also accept the picture of him leaping 2" off the ground with both arms up and his belly showing.

I still enjoy the edgy liberty pic and the balding one.

I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet

Disagree, but I also almost never follow them anyway. I pretty much only follow a link if I think it's to a first party article or something.

I've thought that since they started locking almost everything behind a login

De-centralized as long as you go with what I say...

Might get more artists to move to Bluesky at least

You can always leave their @handle if you want to credit them. Most artists also have other channels. If they only have X... Well sucks to be them but it's thteir choice.

I used to spend time on Facebook catching up with friends and family. That was way back in like 2010. I can't stand that platform now. It's all AI trash and random reels. I don't even know why I'm getting some of these reels but I suspect they are sharing data with other platforms like YT. I miss the internet of the 2000s...

That was my guess as well, but so far, as reported to Ars Technica, they don’t intend to intervene

It's either the power mods or the admins who decide how content gets censored on reddit. Which one is worse?

Why would the owners of Reddit care about twitter?

Can’t musk simply state that naziism is wrong and hitler was a very bad guy?

That’s right of coarse he can!

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That would be good for Lemmy.

Twitter probably benefits from people being redirected to their site from repostings with how it has become the go to source for news like sports, so it might. Won't hurt Elon financially but less people being exposed to the content there that Elon wants to push that don't actively use Twitter is a good thing even if it is only a few.

Even small moves is a good thing with how over the years sports and game submissions have become increasingly more Twitter submissions.

The less its posts are shared, the less its relevance is to the world. I can't see that as a bad thing. It always baffled me how outsize Twitter's influence was on world events/news while having 1/5th the active userbase of Facebook.

Liberals are just sheep. They believe whatever the media tells them.

That projection.

As they mindlessly repeat whatever they just saw linked on "onlyrealpatriots.info.biz" from Facebook.

I laughed when he did it twice as if just to emphasize the first one wasn't a mistake.

I mean if you only saw and read Reddit during the last election campaign, you'd be ABSOLUTELY sure at the first half of the campaign that Biden was going to win, might as well don't have an election at that point

And then, after Kamala got into the campaign, again, if you only saw and read Reddit, you'd be, again, ABSOLUTELY sure that she would win, it wasn't even a contest.

If reality were downvotes, upvotes or massive bans to users posting against the thread zeitgeist, yeah sure, that would be what happened.

Hard to accept reality after that harsh wakeup call

tbf it's the users of Reddit and they're doing the right thing

To befair the only lemmy community I've seen thats blocked X is /c/Playstation.

So reddit still has 49 more than we do.

Holy shit. I made the mistake of looking in there. What a festering pile of misinformed louts. There’s not a brain cell to be found in there.

Work in progress swastika.

Well it is run by a jerkoff.

Imagine you had a relationship that turned out toxic, and then you decided to protect yourself by severing it. Later, when you even hear about X, your heart is filled with negative emotions, and you realize you need to move on.

Nah, they're not big on non-compliance. So consider an uprising. Spez wants to play with a big oligarchs, he won't take a chance on pissing anyone off.

And block all their domains/IP ranges too. People really need to understand how third party tracking works.

Assume a single instance should be able to do this no? If so, kind of sad that I don't think any have that I am aware of.

Would much prefer users and instance admins to have better filtering tools.

What does freedom of speech have to do with independent subreddits deciding they don't want to serve content from a private company they don't agree with?

Look, I'm all for freedom of speech. I'm nearly as close to an absolutist as they come.

This is an example of a protest. Nobody is restricting anybody's speech. They aren't banning Musk-supporters. They aren't censoring Trumpers. They are specifically banning links to a website owned by a billionaire who did a Nazi salute at an event where hundreds of millions if not billions of people would witness him.

Not to worry, you're simply confusing freedom of speech with obliging private actors to consume content they don't want to consume or disagree with. The first is a fundemental principle of democratic legal systems and recognized as a perempotry norm under international law. The second is authoritarianism.

There's a growing number of legally illiterate people who think freedom of speech is absolute and even affords one the right to oblige others consume their speech through the government. That is fundamentally wrong and a complete misunderstanding of how these key principles of freedom work and have always worked in modern democratic systems.

Newsflash - freedom of speech is not absolute. Never has been. There are very specific, explicitly codified limitations. Why? Because words are the most powerful weapons and can be used to target and threaten the freedoms of other people, including their freedom to life. Which is why rights and obligations are always balanced against each other, following the principle of proportionality.

If you feel so strongly about not being able force others to consume content they don't want to consume, then I have bad news for you - you are opposing democracy. But it seems like you, and many other like you, are just confused, rather than actively promoting anti-democratic standpoints. The truly sad part? The impact is the same regardless of intent.

Edit: Want to know more? Details at 6.

He's a nazi. There's no space it civil society for nazis.

Wat

Existence of mods goes against the concept of freedom of speech. People aren't prevented from directly using Twitter themselves. They'd be on 4chan if they wanted something as close to an unfiltered internet.

We wouldn't be on our respective instances that have blocked off entire instances and communities if we wanted to consume unfiltered internet content.

100, I get more dislikes here than I ever did on Reddit.

So, your stratagy is nukes or go home? You just want one decisive move to win, otherwise why bother?

When a baby is born it doesn't just run out of the womb and poop in a toilet. First it slides out. Many months later it starts crawling. Then slowly walking. Then walking. Then running. Then potty training. THEN it can run to a toilet to poop.

But by your logic, oh well, can't run to a toilet on day 1. Best just not to be born.

If you can't have everything, you'd prefer nothing? Isn't that the same logic that got us a second trump term?

So... what?

In your ideal world nazi sites wouldn't be blocked?

What are you even arguing here?

There is no world in which refusing to use a site run by a nazi is a bad thing.

I get it, why give him any attention. But this is not about him--it's about the protest this time. That's fine by me, let's get people going!