I hate using apps for things that could be websites, to the point that I don't use certain kinds of services that are app-only (e.g. e-scooter rentals).
Sometimes you just have to, though. A lot of mobile sites are incredibly watered down and try to tell you that you need to use the app to do any basic function, but then the desktop site lets you do it without issue.
But the phone version of the site is so stripped down and babby friendly to the point of unusability. My favorite are the sites that don't give you the function you need on the mobile site, but don't let you switch to the desktop view.
True but mobile websites still tend to be horribly done or missing functionality. I want it to just work, dammit, and too many attempts at being clever just arent
I wonder if they meant they use desktop sites on the desktop.
I know I have almost completely cut out cell phone use by way of doing everything on desktop. Even texting and calling with Google fi I do on my desktop via their web app. The less I need my phone for when I'm at home the better.
I did that... In 2011 or something, when not every website had a mobile UI... I personally don't recommend it, in fact I'd dare to say this played a big role in the web forums to die... To not adapt properly for the tiny screens at the required time.
I've recently cleaned up my Android phone and switched from apps to websites where possible and it's a surprisingly good experience!
Most apps these days seem to be web browser wrappers ether way. Firefox on Android allows to turn any page into a self contained instance (like an app) which is very convenient. I can also install Ublock Origin to block ads and other firefox addons which is amazing. In particular I use addon called Stylus to adjust styling of some pages.
It definitely feels like we're going full circle now: early desktop apps -> web browser -> smartphones launch native apps -> back to web browser
The only thing holding back web browsers is Apple purposefully breaking the web to protect their 30% appstore cut.
Just note that Firefox for android tabs are not isolated from each other, but they're sharing the same process, thus technically can access all of the other objects in Firefox′s memory.
You should consider using mulch for these web-native apps style usage.
Can't wait for fission to come to mobile to solve all this mess...
I mostly use websites in order to use ad blockers and many apps use far more storage than necessary. I mostly use apps when they have functionality that I want that the website is missing or when the app just offers a significantly better experience than the website.
Websites. I hate apps. I hate them trying to glean data from me, I hate then trying to shove ads down my throat while I'm already buying shit from them. I hate how I have to open a new app for everything instead of just another tab. I hate that many are tied solely to apps on my phone and refuse to use those platforms. I want to use my computer instead sometimes. Sometimes I don't want to tippy tap on a small screen. I hate apps with a passion, they are a fucking blight more often than not.
I usually just use the website in a mobile browser as I generally avoid websites that require an app. It's an unnecessary waste of space when the website could just work in a mobile browser but some developers, whether it's because of incompetence or it's actually intentional, either limit what features are available in mobile browsers or just make the website not work at all.
Other then that use the website. If the company is too stupid to fix their website and make it use standards so it supports normal browsers and not just one specific browser, then I just don’t go there
Uhaul wanted me to download their app to return a truck after hours. I will at most use uhaul once a year, but I'm not moving more frequently than that. In cases like that I'll use websites. Same goes for restaurants and other stores
Generally speaking I try to look for the app first, because that's the most optimized experience for mobile, while the browser version is often not very smooth. But apps lately are getting so awful that the browser version is better.
E.g. YouTube is in the browser for me, because Firefox + uBlock combo is the only way to avoid ads.
As ads today are to be avoided due to privacy and security reasons, I got rid of all apps that are flagged as "contains ads" in Google Play store.
Just a funny story from a few months ago: one day when I opened LinkedIn, an unusual screen welcomed me, that I couldn't jump over: I had to pick where I wanted ads to appear without the LinkedIn app, with two choices: either above private messages or in-between posts. I deleted the app instead. Then I wanted to use it in the browser, but it didn't work in Firefox, the website just froze after login. So yeah. No more LinkedIn for me. Sometimes I log in on desktop to see if there's anything, but it's getting so rare, basically there's nothing to see there.
So if neither is convenient to use, then I use neither.
Apps for things where I want local data (say, pictures), notifications (say, messaging), or tie into the hardware (say, navigation/compass). Mobile web for everything else.
i tend to only use the mobile version or desktop-in-mobile on firefox, because it works 90% of the time without me having to worry about yet-another-fucking-app
one big exception is banking.. but social media? im not using an app for a generic website.
Right now I'm trying Instagram and Facebook as website shortcuts. I watch reels on Instagram and people send event invites on Facebook (birthdays and whatnot) but I don't like having them installed. The reels scrolling fucks up very often but otherwise it's fine.
In the end I don't know why I'm bothering, since I use messenger with a few people and I can't seem to use that without an app (or going to my PC every time).
since I use messenger with a few people and I can’t seem to use that without an app
If your goal is privacy, you could (if you are using android) create a "work profile" and put those apps there, and they can't access the data on your main profile.
i use mobile sites whenever possible, but if it's something i use often and the app is more convient i'll relent. looking at my home screen it's all mostly things that don't have a web equivalent. i'll use an app for things that i WANT notifications for, so really only mastodon and email. for mbin specifically i use the PWA because i'm not sure if any kbin/lemmy/whatever apps work with it, and the user CSS themes are pretty neat
App if I use it often, website for everything else. The UI is usually better in the app. Many mobile websites are a pain to use. Plus I have a system-wide ad blocker
I mostly use websites in order to use ad blockers and many apps use far more storage than necessary. I mostly use apps when they have functionality that I want that the website is missing or when the app just offers a significantly better experience than the website.
I try to use mobile web versions saved as an app shortcut. When you install a real app it usually comes with a bunch of permissions needed and trackers collecting your info in the background. Bad for privacy and battery life. Classyshark helps scan the trackers and a firewall can disable wifi access on app by app basis but thats a lot more trouble than just not installing a bunch if junk apps.The exception is that I trust open source software from fdroid with a public github repo.
That's why I switched on YouTube on the phone to Tubular, but it's feature that it doesn't connect to your YouTube account for history and so makes it less usable. But it has another good feature playing audio in the background.
Mix of both. Messengers, Mastodon and YouTube, mostly apps (except when I want to listen to YT in the background). Maps and games, also apps. But for Lemmy I use the web frontend because I haven't yet found a convincing app and the web frontend is good enough.
Most companies aren't allocating nearly enough funds to their website teams for responsive web pages that using their apps is a better experience, and that's by design.
But to clearly summarize your question, apps unless they are just a web app in a app container (looking at you Farmer's insurance)
There is no way I'd use Lemmy with the web app if I didn't know about:
Summit
Voyager
Boost
Eternity
Sync
Clients... The same could be said for more apps (like Reddit, Feedly etc) so yeah I think I am more in the mobile apps, aside from extremely annoying ones, such as Amazon, Ebay, AliExpress etc.
I generally prefer the app, in most scenarios. But it depends on what the platform is. Some will just perform better in the app because the app is the main focus of the platform, but others are just a web wrapper for the mobile site and just eat up space on your device for no discernible reason.
I find that it's also generally easier to sandbox permissions on a per-app basis than a per-website basis. So even though a lot of times the app is meant to be a vector to harvest more data out of the user, in the right setting it can actually be more secure than just using the website. But that's very situational.
In general, I use apps, mostly because I root every phone (and yes, root ability is a major deciding factor when buying) as soon as I get it so I have tighter control for the tracking BS as well as being able to block ADs, effectively, system-wide. Literally no AD load on my phone (ok leak rate is like <2 % so It does happen, but it's rare lol) be it a webpage or an ad-riddled app
Lemmy I definitely use an app because I find the UI..... distasteful...
I'm fine with apps, as long as I'm not drowning in them for redundant services; i.e. I installed a bunch of Lemmy apps while I was trying it out, but now that I've settled on one, I removed all the others. I try to curate my apps every now and then and keep the clutter at a minimum, or at least remove any that I'm not regularly using.
YouTube is one app I will not use, though. Using Firefox with uBlock Origin, I can prevent it from advertising to me. But I can't stop ads in their app. So I've disabled their app (can't remove it, as I currently have a Google phone) and I forwarded all YouTube links to Firefox.
I'm of mixed opinions on it generally but like the web-apps where you go to a site and then 'install' it. My mixed thoughts are because it seems to only work in chromium browsers rather than Firefox, but it's a nice way to get a custom configured app on the spot.
You can do it on firefox on android but every time I try it makes the status and navigation bar on the phone white. I find that annoying so I had to grab an app to put shortcuts on my home screen that open in the browser instead of the "install" version.
For the fediverse I currently use Voyager and Raccoon for browsing and web for moderation.
As the mod tools becomes better over time I'll likely see myself primarily using Voyager and Raccoon.
In general though it's hard to say:
Like my banking apps have become so enshitified with spyware level 'features' I deleted the apps and just use their webpages now.
For Youtube and Peertube I primarily use Newpipe/Tubular/Peertube's official app. I use Invidious as the webpage exception for sharing youtube links here as Youtube's own links won't properly load thumbnails for me.
Most of the time it's the same thing.
I typically use apps if it's something I'll want to open on my own, and website for things I only ever open if I'm sent a link to it