AuDHD assessment suggestion

To be double sure, do the test once, then separate the people for three months, then reintroduce them and see if they just resume their conversation.

"As i was saying before i was so rudely interrupted 14 years ago.."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Livingstone#2000
- I just long for the day I wake up and find that the Saudi royal family are swinging from lampposts and that they've got a proper government that represents the people of Saudi Arabia.
  
  I’m starting to like this guy.
- Everyone is bisexual. Almost everyone has the sexual potential for anything.
  
  Speech to Harrow Gay Unity Group (18 August 1981).
  
  (totally irrelevant but thats freaking great)
...this got so personal so quickly.
That describes every lasting relationship of my life starting with my best friend from first grade and ending with my best friend from the Navy. I think I've only had a single conversation with my best friend from first grade. It's not finished until one of us dies.
So any normal male friendship?
- I have a girlfriend who I reconnect perfectly with and we rarely speak more than once a year but it's always awesome.

similarily if you pop 200mg of caffeine and fall asleep that might be a slight indication that you have adhd

Just sounds like caffeine addiction. I used to be able to drinks pot of coffee and then go to sleep. Then health issues caused me to give up all caffeine for several years and now if I have half a cup im wired for hours...
- True, but I never drink coffee and could drink one right now and go sleep. The same when I was prescribed methylphenidate, straight to sleep. A non ADHD brain would be going 100mph.
- i don't mean "being able to fall asleep", i mean that caffeine actively makes you tired, because that's how stimulants work for most ADHD people: rather than actually stimulate, it brings you back to base level and thus lets you be tired.
- I know some people are "caffeine addicted" but I genuinely don't know how the fuck people do it.
  
  I drink a cup of coffee a day, 16oz, sometimes there's also an energy drink in the mix, on some really serious days I have a headache or migraine and an Excedrin adds a little more in the mix.
  
  One day I made a full pot of coffee and decided to attempt to consume the entire thing over the course of the day. I felt like my heart was trying to escape from my chest and that I was soon going to die.
- When you gave up caffeine did you experience rebound insomnia?
  
  I gave up caffeine a month ago on my neurologists orders and it's been easy, no obvious withdrawal symptoms, no cravings, I just replaced all my tea and coffee and redbull with herbal tea and lemonade.
  
  But I have not gotten more than 3 hours of consecutive sleep in this month, and I'm missing the relaxation and quiet that a refreshing 9pm redbull used to offer, I've got plenty of other relaxing rituals, but none so easy as just drinking coffee.
  
  I started drinking coffee at 15 and religiously relishing redbulls at 21. Now in my 30s, this is the first time I've had true insomnia symptoms.
  
  My mother has been an insomniac her whole life, my dad is narcoleptic, I was previously diagnosed with N24CRD and my brother has DSPS, so I come from a family of fucked up sleepers, but this is a new symptom set for me and it appears directly related to giving up caffeine.
  
  I'm hoping it's just an adjustment period and my brain will sort itself out and get some sleep soon.
That's me in my normal rhythm of substance abuse with caffeine.

It might be that.

Then again, the funny thing about caffeine is that I can go without some for weeks as long as I'm not expected to work. Longest I've gone without was a 12 week, almost 3 month streak. The coffee I had in my kitchen went bad.
- Being able to forget you are addicted to something is also an ADHD trait.
- That sounds a lot like self medicating to me lmao
- i geniunely don't understand why so many people immediately jump to it sounding like addiction, since when does caffeine addiction make it so taking caffeine makes you tired? Surely the symptom of caffeine addiction (or withdrawal, rather) is that not getting caffeine makes you tired?

Drag knows lots of people with autism who are absolute assholes and drag doesn't get along with them at all. So this test wouldn't work reliably.

Ever seen Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs? Flint Lockwood and his dad both have big time autism, and precisely opposite mannerisms and special interests. They don't understand each other at all and it takes a lot of effort for them to get along.

Solid take Drag, couldn't agree more
Drag, may i ask you why you refer to drag in such a way? What would in most cases refered to as "third-person"? I'm genuinely curious.
- Drag uses person-independent drag/dragself pronouns. They're inflected and conjugated the same way in first, second, and third person. They reflect drag's identity as a dragon rider.
- It's a drag
always cool to see a drag comment :]
- Awww, thanks
i agree, this method would never work. There are plenty of pairs of enemies that are both on the spectrum. My bully in high school had ADHD, just like me.
Yeah, me, my dad, and his dad all surely have it, undiagnosed. None of us get along. Dad and I are trying to work through it, but the man is stubborn and firmly believes I'm a prodigal son.
Eyy, we meet again! I suppose it could help for a portion of autistic people

Ironically, this is how I found out.

I had four different people with ASD, including one person I met for the first time, tell me that I should get myself checked. One was after I had a several hour long convo with someone who could only normally talk with neurotypical people for about 30 minutes before it became a strain. He was shocked that I wasn't diagnosed and recommended I get checked.

Now the only reason I don't have a diagnosis is because the evaluator didn't understand how the criteria worked. Still debating whether to try again for a diagnosis or not.

Same. For years I wondered why I tended to gravitate towards people with autism or ADHD.

I don't have a formal diagnosis for ASD, but my current provider is very sure I have it. (She says I can get a formal dx, but it will cost a lot and will not really add any value to my life. This is my own situation, it may vary for other people.)

I suppose it depends what you want out of a diagnosis. I pursued getting evaluated for ADHD because I can pursue treatment with a diagnosis that isn't available to me otherwise.

Either way, good luck to you!
- Childhood trauma can cause the same symptoms as autism but that usually gets worked out through therapy and some mood boosters.
  
  Guess how I found out :)
Now the only reason I don't have a diagnosis is because the evaluator didn't understand how the criteria worked

thinking you're smarter than trained and qualified professionals just makes you have honorary Internet autism
- I don't think I am smarter? When I was done, he literally told me that I met the criteria, but that he thought my symptoms were for other reasons he refused to elaborate on. I checked with my therapist, who was the one who referred me, and she confirmed that that isn't how it works, and that the evaluator didn't understand how the criteria were supposed to be graded.
- I'm a "professional" at the top of my field - there are absolutely stupid people up here with me.
  
  "Testing well" isn't "critical thinking."

I find it real easy to detect ADHD in people but that doesn't automatically make me want to be friends with them. We're people like everyone else at the end of the day. Some nice, some not so much.

Wouldn't work, I bond very slowly, due to long time isolation. Psychotherapy is not an option, due to it being defunded in my home country at an even greater scale than other parts of health care, because juST gO To ChuRcH anD PrAY.

I'm sorry to read that.

You're not wrong, a lot of people who are neurodivergent are mistreated in similar ways. That can lead to anxiety, trauma, habits, etc. All of those can make diagnosis more difficult

Honestly, best detector.

I just joined a Discord server of mostly AuDHD people. Much easier.

I was visiting a doctor, a friend of my wife, and I was like 99% sure she had ADHD after the 20min visit. Didn't talk about it but after half a year my wife was telling how she was complaining how difficult it is for adults to get into ADHD meds

Adhdar is real

Huh, that actually checks out

James Bond. Junior.

Sooo wheneve I take those online tests I always come up as non-autistic, but stuff like this makes me wonder what’s up. I find it very easy to befriend/spend time around autistic people. One will typically seek me out in social situations because we get along well (and I guess I don’t make him feel like a weirdo/outsider?) Hmmmm

Have you been tested for ADHD? There’s a lot of symptom overlap.

It’s also possible you’re not properly adjusting your answers for what the test is really asking, vs what it’s literally asking. Ex: if you answer “disagree” to the statement “I have difficulty making it to appointments on time” because you don’t have that problem anymore now that you have an elaborate set of reminders you set for yourself, then “agree” is a more accurate answer to that question, lol.

Try diagnosing sex addiction with how well the addict clicks with others.

Hmm I'd better get tested for sex addiction, just to be safe.
- How many times do I gotta just to be sure?