There's a zero percent chance either one of them sees the inside of a jail cell.
Sure, but maybe she could get money for damages. Apparently she was living in poverty prior to the Olympics, like a lot of other Olympians from developing countries. Having to do sex work or rely on money from their family and community is pretty common, unfortunately.
They could do a tour
Ok, so this IS the Daily Mail, they're notoriously shit reporters. That said:
Please please please please please please please
I don't think there is anything false with what they said, it's just stating the punishment for the crime. Now, whether those punishments actually happen is the question.
In a perfect world, this would happen. In reality, nope. But let's enjoy the fantasy, for a few minutes, of wealthy shitheads having consequences.
The fantasy could be a reality if we collectively agreed that we demanded it.
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The French did something about it, a few hundred years ago. Just saying.
We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art, and very often in our art, the art of words.
Ursula K. Le Guin
Yeah, people are acting like this is up to chance - rich people throw money at their problems, and so long as someone is willing to spend their time catching it instead of doing their job, it works. It's going to work. The 5 year sentence is for poor people they want to get rid of, not for rich people they want to profit from.
But let’s enjoy the fantasy, for a few minutes
I'm so tired of living in a fantasy world.
Jail time... no fines. Fines mean nothing to these people... jail time!
I'm not sure, I don't care about fines, but I think Imane Khelif would deserve some compensation for what they put her through.
So, a jail sentence and generous damages payed to the victim would be an ideal outcome from my point of view.
That would be a civil suit that would need to be brought separately.
Agree, but you know that's about as likely to happen as Trump serving time. The legal system likes money as much as everyone else.
Jail time...
...and fines?
I know... I can only hope and fantasize...
I wish Joanne had gone the Enya route and finished Harry Potter and the Writing Quality of Diminishing Returns, disappeared with her wealth into the highlands, did some occasional projects, and just never spoke again. Maybe some occasional rumors would pop up about her having a panda ranch that she kept for demolition derbys or something weird. She can go suck a railroad spike.
Seriously. She has been such a massive disappointment. The fact that she feels like she has to be actively hateful, makes it all the worse. Just shut the help up and enjoy your gobs and gobs of money.
I would love that as much as anyone, but does anyone here seriously believe this will happen?
Five years is the maximum sentence, which a person with no prior convictions should easily be able to avoid. Even if the case was brought against a regular person, I doubt there would be jail time. Musk and Rowling can naturally afford the best lawyers, and Rowling has gone radio silent from what I heard. So, fine is easily possible, but jail time is highly unlikely.
Musk? no way.
Jk mold? Maybe but unlucky
Hoping, but in no way expecting.
No, especially not coming from Daily Mail.
Finally, a fan of proper journalism.
And nothing of value will be lost.
Literally, they don't produce anything. They would probably accumulate more wealth while in prison. In my ideal society the judge would hit them for a percentage of their net worth.
Fines should be based on net worth. That fine is a joke for them.
I'm not sure how I feel about cyberbullying being punishable with jail time
Harrassment and defamation are real charges regardless of whether they happen online or not
I am sure. It's caused suicides.
Sometimes I think the Right has a point about how sensitive we are... But, only sometimes...
Nobody does till it happens to their kids or a family member and you see what it does to someone, especially children and young people
Well the way laws tend to work they scale to consequence.
Like think about speeding in a school zone. You get caught by a cop doing it it's a fine. Nobody is going to jail.
But say you speed and hit someone and cause injury. You probably face big fines or a few days in jail or community service.
But then imagine you are speeding in a school zone and you hit and kill a kid. That's not ruled a no fault accidental death as it would be if you weren't speeding. Because you broke the smaller law you get the upgrade to manslaughter because you were found criminally at fault.
Cyberbullying applies the same logic. As long as there were no criminal harms and measurable damages it's a little fine to remind you that that's not cool. But the more recordable damages the cyberbullying causes the more you are on the hook. If you are a person with millions of followers chances are you have a lot of potential destructive power and it is wiser to keep your facts straight and your nose clean when it comes to calls to action to harrass someone who has comparatively very little ability to defend themselves.
Our courts are ran by money, seriously doubt they'll even get probation
Nobody is going to jail. Sorry to burst your bubble. Just find comfort in knowing they will likely cost themselves millions, needlessly.
There was a very nice bit in the TV show Emma:
"She should be able to come and go as she pleases, not as the fucking Daily Mail pleases! Pardon my language."
"It's alright. I've heard the words 'daily mail' before."
This is a fine line, be careful! But that old hag is hateful.
How does the jurisdiction even work there? A UK citizen and a SA/Canada/US citizen get prosecuted for cyberbullying of an Algerian citizen? Don't get me wrong, they deserve it, but this feels like a "careful what you wish for" type of thing.
It's almost like these borders we have are stupid and arbitrary and instead we should have a global system of justice to handle these cross border crimes.
But hey. Nationalism.
Even arguably the two most similar cultures in the world, the United States and Canada, have enough disagreements on how government should work that there wouldn't be massive support on either side for them to merge.
Not to mention 1A has worked against Rowling in the past (she threatens libel lawsuits that are valid in the UK, but US doesn't extradite for stuff that would be considered free speech there.)
Ever heard of the lèse-majesté laws in Thailand? Now imagine a dictator able to use that to silence critics globally that are "cyberbullying" them. We already see it with countries filing bogus Interpol requests to harass dissident diaspora members. And sure you could have an independent body, but then that is subject to politics and capture.
We all know this will never happen, but a guy can dream...
If only the law would apply to the rich and powerful... if only, if only...
Lock them up!
Honestly, I couldn't understand why people called her a TERF for the longest time, I figured she was just a TEF. But her outburst calling this "the new men's rights movement" has me understanding now. With that said, meh. But maybe I've grown up around too many crazy people for it to register any more.
I think being trans-exclusionary makes you a radical per se.
Not really. Other than the perpetually online, a majority of people believe that trans identities in women's sports is wrong. I don't know how to fix that perception, but it's a pretty common viewpoint.
Being trans-exclusionary everywhere ELSE absolutely, you would be considered a radical.
But before "Gender Identity" even became a thing, sports had some pretty simple rules: If you take substances to modify your body, then you're excluded from competition.
Unfortunately, that's the primary basis of gender identity nowadays, so it's a natural consequence. Notice that the problem never really even gets discussed in men's sports (except by reactionaries) -- because there being any kind of physical advantage in the male category is negligible at best.
I think the R is also because she posts all the fucking time about it. I assumed she had some dumb reactionary views but wasn't quite sure why that was so newsworthy (I'm sure lots of people have dumb reactionary views, esp the ultra wealthy). But she literally posts all day every day about it, it's fucking bonkers.
you wish...
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Make them cellmates and they have to share a phone.
This would be nice if it happened, but I give it 1% tops. Elon especially, the government has its fingers in his businesses and would likely step in to cut a deal even if his money couldn't save him. But since he didn't break any American laws and the 1st Amendment is a huge thing, I doubt he'd be extradited in the first place. He might in that case end up with a standing warrant that would get him arrested the minute he stepped foot over there, though, if he's tried in absentia.
I don't know anything about UK law so I have no idea what would happen to her royal terfness, but she's got dump trucks full of money, so she's probably fine. If there's one thing that's the same everywhere in the world, it's that rich people live by their own set of rules.
A futur defeat and knowkout for Imane Khelif. Anyway it's just a question of $$$
