It's not the size, it's the content. Lemmyverse is a lot more serious and honestly, gloomy. Average age seems to be quite higher too. If all you used reddit for was news, politics, technical discussion and porn lemmy might be perfectly fine but there's way less meme or entertainment content here
There is less of everything. Less sports, less hobbies, less local groups, less crafts, less academic discussions, less indie hackers and entrepreneurs, less fashion/brand/style enthusiasts...
Memes and entertainment are too shallow and can be found anywhere, we need to focus on getting some people focused on the deeper end. Reddit's strength is in its long tail of interests. Instead of running blackouts or general protests, we should have focused on bringing one specific community to Lemmy (like e.g, knitting), figure out the issues and support them to migrate fully. If we pulled that off, other communities would have a template to emulate.
The way I see it is that when I've run out of content on Lemmy, that's my indication to put down my phone and do something else. My buddy framed it in that way during a discussion we had the other day and I think he hit the nail on the head.
I still appreciate Lemmy more. It's more intimate and people are way more respectful. Also, Reddit is full of shit comments. Lemmy comments aren't perfect or amazing, but I visited Reddit this week looking for memes (agree with your point on quantity of memes) and perused the comments. I forgot how stupid and formulaic Reddit can be. I'm really happy that didn't transfer over to Lemmy.
I imagine this is controversial, but I appreciate that there’s less entertainment here. I’ve already had more decent discussions here in the last 6 months, even if I disagreed strongly with the other person, than I have on Reddit since the 3rd party app debacle.
The constant churn of what some people consider entertaining, or the never-ending effort in attempts to be the entertaining and flippant comment that gets upvotes even on serious subjects really just gets old. I don’t mean to say people shouldn’t have a sense of humor, but when everything starts to revolve around cheap quips and retreads of the same old comments, that’s stagnation. Any serious sub big enough to damp that behavior also tends to be more exclusive of outside opinion.
So I guess I’m happy with news, politics, tech, and porn - though I have to admit I blocked out a crapton of the porn when Lemmy was new because it was overwhelming so I don’t see much of that in /all anymore.
The gloomyness is definitely a problem. Progressives are usually better at empathy so they feel everyone's pain. And if you are looking for it you'll find shit and pain all day long.
We already have instances that go down or suffer from intermittent federation issues when lemmy.world gets a bit more active. The most conservative estimates are putting Reddit at 75 million DAU. If we get to 1% of that, you can bet that our current network would choke, badly.
Not only we need more instances, we also need to be a lot smarter about their organization and how to architect this network. I think we will only be able to grow larger if we make a more intentional separation between topic-based instances and "people-home" instances, so that we can have a better spread of the load.
The total federated bandwith is definatly a bottle neck we are starting to approach (ie what we see with .world and it overloading small instances). Not sure the solution here but I'm sure we can work past it without compromising on decentralisation.
We need more instances, but we need to be a lot smarter about the structure. I think we will only be able to grow larger if we make a more intentional separation between topic-based instances and "people-home" instances, so that we can have a better spread of the load.
I don't know if it would help with load-balancing, but I feel hash tags would be better than communities.
Welcome! I have noticed the last week or two that there has been a real influx of activity, and it's now basically the same experience for larger subreddits/lemmy communities. All we need is some niche community and better cross/instance community combining and we're golden. Enjoy!
My oldest Reddit account was close to 15 years old and I haven't logged into any of them for almost 2 years. All the same content and none of the Reddit BS.
Yalls subreddit needs links to here. And a short guide on getting started.
I had to scroll a bunch of comments to find the right name to Google. Then I had to find the most popular app to use. It was a bit of a hassle. Not too bad. But enough to be off-putting to newbies.
As the other comment said, linking to a specific app isn't that easy, choosing between former Reddit clients like Sync and Boost for instance is already tough, and then you include Lemmy exclusive apps like Jerboa, Voyager, Thunder, etc.
Every time reddit announces something dumb I open Lemmy again. I'd rather be here on principle but the content/users just aren't here yet. Where are the cross post bots?
I was never much of an /r/all user, it's always been niche communities for me. I feel like almost all of my niches have content here now (if not quite as much engagement as I'd like). [email protected] in particular has exploded with activity lately and arguably can now serve as a full replacement for its subreddit counterpart.
Thing is, when I try to bring people on Lemmy, it's always "why?" and if I make it that far, "how?" With the how, I've been using the analogy of signing up for email, though it's still not as smooth as it could be. Eyes glaze over when anyone starts asking me about how the Fediverse in general works.
The why is harder. I don't know how much user bleed-over niche Reddit got from /r/all users but I'm guessing it wasn't a trivial amount. I'm sure a lot of Reddit's growth was owed to AMAs, so it's possible Lemmy might need something flashy to draw in users who will then filter into communities waiting for them. Some sort of content unique to the platform. I do think before we get there we need a friendlier way to help new people find communities they may have interest in.
That's what I'm doing. I got 2 subs that I frequented on Reddit I'm running, one is a sports one with discussions for the events, and it's literally just me putting commentary into it. But that's what I loved about the Reddit sports subs, so I'll at least have it for when people come here.
Thanks for your service. I'm more of a lurker, though I tend to comment more here than on Reddit, and I have so many other things filling my life that I have to tend to. This is just a distraction before bed or filling a dull moment.
https://lemmit.online/ can be used to crosspost content from Reddit, but you won't get much comments as people tend to prefer content curated by humans
Out of curiosity, what content are you looking for? Discovery on Lemmy can be a problem, but sometimes the communities are there and even active, just buried.
But may I also suggest searching by Top Day/12-hour/6-hour to see the most active posts. Lemmy's scaled algorithm still doesn't get it quite right IMO.
Scaled is intentionally promoting communities with fewer subscribers. It's intentionally demoting the most active posts bt demoting any posts from the communities with more subscribers.
Just.. content. I open my Lemmy app once and I've seen everything it will show me for the day, or sometimes for multiple days. I open reddit and I can scroll for hours.
It is lower from where it was in june (48.472) and the data seem to indicate a negative trajectory , also lemmy donations seem to be the lowest i remember them to be.
So i would not get too confident, the project IMO needs to focus on highly requested killer features. My impression they focusing too much on technical issues that don't seem to be really important in a way that reminds me of the infamous The CADT Model rant of Jamie Zawinski. Do we really need to do a UI rewrite?
The CADT model...that was a short but fun read. I have definitely encountered that model many times in the various jobs.
Years ago, when I was a developer, I loved fixing bugs in other people's code. I felt like I learned a lot from that, and I got a sense of accomplishment out of it. It made users happy, it made my boss happy, and the puzzle solving aspect of it was fun. I was what they called a "maintenance programmer" which was something of an insult, but I didn't mind.
Unfortunately most developers I know hate everyone else's code, think others' code is "garbage" (every single time) and they definitely have a lot more fun building something from scratch than doing bug fixes. They even hate their own code once it's a few months old. Always chasing for the perfect architecture, etc. Which is unfortunate, there's tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.
there’s tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.
Value created doesn't translate to value extracted and VCs and managers and marketers and the general public fork over more money in exchange for new shiny than old, reliable, maintained. There are few exceptions.
probably the best (or least worst) indication of that is sorting issues by "thumbs up" on github, see lemmy and lemmy-ui. I think having a survey among donors (like godot had on patreon) is a better indicator.
I was so confused when I heard about lemmy-ui-leptos, it really sounds like a waste of time to me 🤷♂️
I'm sure everyone has a different opinion, but I think the most important new feature should be the plugin system. It seems like the only way to scale up the number of contributors and support a variety of languages.
Probably due to Reddit fuckary. Between power-hungry, ban-happy mods and Reddit talking about possibly charging for select subs, I definitely bailed and came here.
Two days old today, baaabbby!!
Doing my part tho! I've created 5 communities and have posted over 100 times in the last two days. :)
Thank you! But wow, the people in the c/poltics sub are convinced I am a "media manipulator" because my account is only a few days old and I have started communities. lol
I got banned from reddit for criticizing the mods of a popular subreddit. Perm-ban on a white vest account for saying the mods are crybabies as they once again complained about having to mod the sub.
Though I still do crave the niche communities from Reddit and I might occassionally visit Reddit once in a while on my browser for them, otherwise the ads are pretty unbearable for me. The UI is also so fucking bloated. Fuck spez
I pretty much got permabanned for ban evasion, even though I was on an alt that has no reference to the others other than being on the same IP, my other accounts got banned simultaneously.
Same thing happened to me. 7-day ban evasion suspension instantly into a perma on three accounts at once all because a single subreddit mod threw a fit when I accidentally posted there again off r/all on an alt.
They were all made with the same email address so I could have easily made another alt by now and kept posting but I've taken it as an opportunity to do a Reddit detox
Active accounts is not active users. We shouldn't lie to ourselves. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of active users is half of the active account number.
I think that's a mistake, but also the point is that saying users when you mean accounts is lying to yourself. Users here have multiple accounts, I have 7.
No. I think that there are enough users with multiple accounts including bots that it wouldn't surprise me if the ratio of active users to active accounts is 1:2.
Didn't sound like a toxic asshole to me. But I grew up in the rural midwest in the 90s. That just sounds like someone making a comment, from my culture.
But go on, policing everyone's tone. I'm sure it's great for diversity.