He’s trying to buy a pardon
Though if trump’s dismantling of the FBI occurs maybe he won’t need to. Either way, drops in the bucket for the most successful emerald mine offspring
Wait until you hear what he did with the jewel money. He rented a huge mansion in college and threw huge parties charging people to enter, how many people he enabled to party and drop out including himself? He's even proud of it he thinks he's so amazing and self made for doing that. This is who this country idolizes. A ketamine addicted, crime family son. Everyone else? Fuck you, swat team raids your college mansion party, charges you for illegally running a night club among whatever other charges. It almost glows in the dark that something was protecting that family from any prosecution.
He’s even proud of it he thinks he’s so amazing and self made for doing that.
The real joke of these elite universities is how education has become an entirely tertiary function. Social networking with rich people and padding your resume matter so much more than attending actual classes.
Elon throwing a continuous kegger for a few years probably was what introduced him to all the children of spooks and bureaucrats and investment bankers necessary to make him into the billionaire he is today.
I like when be bought an obscenely expensive luxury sports car to impress Thiel, and promptly wrecked it.
Democrats: Let's give this man billions in subsidies.
Are you saying there is a law that explicitly states to give Elon Musk billions on subsidies or are you just giving a bad faith argument for the effort of Western government trying to cut dependence from petrostates?
They have specifically given at least one of his companies a lot in subsidies. SpaceX lives off the government teet.
Edit: People in this thread don't seem to realize that specifically over paying for something is itself a subsidy. SpaceX has been overcharging for DoD contracts, missing deadlines, and running cost overages for years now. They've also been given contracts where other competitors weren't even considered.
Republicans: Let him say whatever he wants from his e-pulpit to keep our voters stupid and hateful.
Among other things already mentioned here, he thinks trump can help him take revenge on Norway, which invested in him early on but now does not allow Tesla vehicles to be sold there.
Fascism is just capitalism when you try to say no.
So it’s free market economics when it’s not actually a free market? Fascism is the illusion of a free market?
Very close. To me, the "free market" has never and could never exist. Its human nature to tip the scales in your own favour, be it through bribery or coercion.
The idea of a meritocratic market thats free of interference is capitalist-utopianism.
This can't be true if Stalinism and Khmer Rouge are kinds of fascism, which they are generally agreed to be.
Fascism is "might makes right" without checks and balances. With those it would be feudalism, but those don't form overnight. With checks, but without balances it would be absolutism. With balances, but without checks it would be free-for-all. So fascism is what you have after a society has fallen to barbarism, but before it has learned to live in it.
This can’t be true if Stalinism and Khmer Rouge are kinds of fascism, which they are generally agreed to be.
I'm not sure i see the link youre making here. Could you expand on that please?
Capitalism is (financial) might makes right, with the appearance of chacks and balances. All of which have been utterly compromised and perverted by capitalism.
History shows us that fascism is simply capitalism when you try to say no. There was 1900s capitalism. Then, there was a movement trying to say no to the workhouses, debtors prisons and wealth theft. In direct response to this, fascism arose to protect the assets of the wealthy from the people trying to say no to capitalism. You can see it in America where striking workers were gunned down by police, as one example there. In the UK too, where the Royal Hussars cavalry were set on protesting workers. So, where I say that, I mean it in a very literal way.
Most people just don't see it, as very few of us are even able to say no much less actual say it too. That doesn't make it any less true though.
Musk is pumping up Trump's coffers so that he gets elected and follows through with his promise to ban EV imports from other countries, essentially cementing his monopoly on the EV market that Tesla currently dominates.
Long story short, don't buy a Tesla. They're kinda shitty anyway.
The guy, no, I mean child, who recently whined that he wasn't getting $50+ billion compensation package doesn't have a problem throwing $45 million a month to another child. Because "money." Obscene.
Let's scale those amounts to something more understandable to non-billionaires
Imagine earning $50k per year and buying the president's favor for $45 per month. Elon is buying access to the most powerful person on the planet for the equivalent of a monthly phone bill.
And what amounts to a phone bill to him could change hundreds of thousands of people's lives for the better. But "Muh taxes..."
Also there's no EV mandate.
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No, fascism is capitalism at its endpoint. It's the Natural Evolution.
Just like a corpse is the natural endpoint of a human being. Or how shit is the natural endpoint of chicken parmigiana?
Nooooo liberalism is very clear that the role of government is to protect human rights!!!!!
Surely a system that depends on an educated voter won't sabotage itself to such an extent that the average voter doesn't even know that!
Musk already made his billions from government subsidies and investments. Now is the time to pull the ladder behind him.
We gotta stop getting hung up on these animals being inconsistent with themselves and each other.
While I see the humor in this, it's not the kind of thing that the right wing would care about. Both of these takes are from people that believe in strong class hierarchy, with those on top owning/controlling most everything. The contrary take on EVs doesn't even clock as dissonant if all you care about is punching down on people not like you, and want big powerful men to do the punching for you. It's not seen as dysfunction, it's toxic masculinity on display where guys are constantly jockying for their spot in the pecking order; that's normal for people like this. So, they really are on the same team in the eyes of their constituents, with Musk having some political power without being a politician per-se.
Smedley Butler, aka, "Devil Dog" was first class bad ass, honest and patritoic Marine/citizen.
And is erased from history for fucking with the money. 'Murica.
At first, I was thinking "If Trump is anti-EV and Elon owns a company that makes EV's, why would Elon support Trump?"
then I was like "ohh. Oooooohhhh"
There will be kickbacks
Trump’s statement in the meme isn’t about EV’s it’s about mandates.
Ever felt like you have been dealt a blow of injustice from a corporation? Brace yourself we are on a path to them gaining an even more powerful foothold over our lives.
A power that removes choice and forces the consumption of their conditions to maintain the high quality of life Americans have worked so hard for and have come to expect. A lot is at stake, let’s make the corporations suffer rather than us.
My gosh, imagine the mental gymnastics one has to go through to hold these two beliefs at the same time:
- Electric cars are the future
- The government shouldn’t be forcing electric cars on people
Anyone who can believe these two things at once is either insane, stupid, or just more complex than a looney tunes character.
Someone who holds both beliefs at once presumably expects a future where people buy electric cars because they prefer (and can afford) electric cars. Could you elaborate on why that is an absurd thing to believe or why I'm off the mark here?
I'm not saying I agree with the above notion; personally, I'd prefer a future with fewer cars in general per capita, though I have no idea how likely either future is.
I'd say you're right, not sure what that guy is talking about.
Does "government should internalize costs" count as forcing electric cars on people?
I'm not sure they are the future, maybe trains are better? It's not my place to say, I just don't think they should get to pollute for free.
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Musk is against the subsidies because they don’t apply to cars made in China
Wait a minute. We think mandates are good here? I thought Liberal meant free to choose.
isn't part of the point that there isn't a mandate in the first place?
Excessive regulation in such areas as emission requirements could be seen as a defacto mandate.
I never saw Musk as the guy that wanted to make a bunch of money because the regulatory environment forced you to buy his cars. But rather create a competitive product people will like and let that move the needle.
There is no electric vehicle mandate. Trump just made that up.
SpaceX/Starlink is worth much more than Tesla.
Elon is a dipshit but he’s not dumb.
This is just straight up not true. SpaceX is worth 210b and Tesla is at 712b. It's not even close. I think you really need to ask yourself why you're willing to either lie or be so easily manipulated into believing a lie and then circulating it just to try and make Musk look better to Internet strangers. 2 seconds of searching to find out that this is not true but you didn't even think about it. Why is that?
I think you really need to ask yourself why you’re willing to either lie or be so easily manipulated
Totally unnecessary. You're comparing a publicly traded company running on memes and a strange cult of personality to private valuation.
Now that China and other domestic competitors have ramped up EV production Tesla's dominance of the niche is going to fall, especially considering the flop that was the Cybertruck and the brand damage Elon has committed.
We are already seeing protectionist measures being enacted for the EV sector.
In short, SpaceX and Starlink have a market to dominate (whether we want it to or not, it seems) while Tesla, a grossly overvalued company, is only going to see more competition and deepened irrelevancy.
If you own two businesses and are putting one of them in jeopardy for no good reason, that's still quite dumb.
I don't know if it is drugs, or some neural damage caused by covid, but his recent actions didn't bring him any profits only loses. Tesla is getting less and less sales despite sales of EVs going up.
Would it help at all if he could shift the blame onto government policy?
I don’t pay much attention to things I can’t afford, but I remember reading a short conspiracy theory that Musk would absolutely love it if someone were to turn the market against EVs/Tesla, because he needs/wants Tesla to fail by excuse of “government” and not because he’s running into the ground. Exhibit A: AI Self Driving Exhibit C: Cybertruck.
Looks better on his resume that way? Gotta preserve that image to preserve that income.
you made three statements and two of them were wrong
He can be both
