Welcome ex-Redditors!
Welcome ex-Redditors!
Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It's nice and cozy here, we do have some "bad parts of town" but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol
For your memes we have [email protected] if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like [email protected] and [email protected] and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic [email protected]
You can also drop a shit(post) off at [email protected] or hang out at [email protected] (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
There's much more around as well!
Obligatory, fuck Spez
Yay for bringing up Mander :-)
Wait, what's wrong with Hexbear? I'm new to Lemmy and read the code of conduct and TOS of Hexbear and it just seems like they're leftist? I was thinking about registering there 😅
Lemmy can be a bit of a culture shock when you come from Reddit. If someone calls you a libtard on Reddit, it's because they think you're a leftist. If someone calls you one on Lemmy, it's because they think you're too far to the right of them.
They are not actually left, they are authoritarian communists and will defend Chinas CCP and Putin as well as spread the propaganda/misinfo out of there. And if you dare post anything critical of them, no matter how many good sources you give or how factual it is they'll write it off as "CIA propaganda", remove it and ban you under their catch-all "Rule 1: Bigotry"
If you want to see more check out [email protected]
If you criticize the chinese communist party you will be labled a sinophobe on Hexbear.
"I'm doing my part!"
Hexbear users are generally more vocal with their opinions and call people out for problematic opinions. Because not everyone shares Hexbear users' opinions it can come across as very aggressive. My instance has been defederated with them for a while so it's hard to say exactly what it is like now, but that's the gist.
I had plenty of positive interactions with them too and enjoyed their communities. It's easier to notice the one really unenjoyable interaction with someone than the dozens of somewhat positive ones though.
It's a shame that many instancss defederated with Hexbear and vice-versa... definitely makes having alt accounts necessary so users can get the most out of Lemmy
I blocked hexbear after getting in too many stupid arguments with their users. The final straw was an argument where they said "owning a personal washer, dryer and vacuum isn't communist enough" and I just gave up and blocked the bunch. Lot less grief in my feed after that.
Nobody on hexbear is sane. One of the worst Lemmy instances. Many other instances already defederated from it and I can honestly just advice you to not interact with them.
If anyone from hexbear insults you, it's a good thing. That means you're still human.
I looked around some NSFW communities, a number of them seem to have no posts at all. Is that normal, to have communities with no posts? Or is there a filter of some sort so I'm not seeing them? I do have "see NSFW" enabled, mind, so it's not that.
A lot were created during rexit 1, but just never filled with any content
NSFW stuff was the weakest "movers" from Reddit IMO
We don't really has the talent like the reddit of yore..
Former tankie turned anarchist. Talk to the Tankies. Learn from them, they have points.
Engles is full of shit ("On Authority" is little more than a business owner complaining that people don't like authority, and using natural laws of the universe to justify its existence by diluting the definition of authority such that any type of power over anything is considered authority. While this is not technically incorrect, it is a gross oversimplification of what authority means) and is the primary basis for how authority is justified on the Auth left.
But when they tell you to read something, go read it. They shitpost hard, don't eat the onion, don't feed the trolls, but engage in genuine conversation *recognizing that you will never agree and using it as a learning experience *
edit: spelling error
I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says "then they'll be made to", revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.
Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more.
This right here (I'm stealing it lmao)
I personally would love to see the fall of capitalism in my lifetime and the rise of "The Star Trek Economics" which IMO is a fantastic example of a realistic equal capitalism-free future. Not so perfect as to fall into the "Utopia that's really a Dystopia in disguise" problem, but still a future worth striving for.
All current or past examples of Communism generally involve the sacrifice of personal rights and freedoms to some degree.
ETA: As far as engaging with them goes, I did for a while, multiple times in fact. Once you go beyond their surface level talking points the Authoritarian in them comes out and they will not criticize China/Russia in any shape or form no matter how deserving.
It's really only been the last few months that I've actually been proactive against them because now I see the damage they do to the Lemmy-verse with their propaganda and misinformation.
p.d mentioned, wooo!
These posts are so fucking cringe lol. Its always the same guy posting them.
I was on Lemmy when lemmy.ml was the biggest server and I'm glad that despite the biggest server being tankie nominated Lemmy could grow into what it is today.
For awhile I thought that there were stacks of people on lemmy.world constantly complaining about tankies. But now I'm starting to realise that most of the posts are from this one dude, cm0002. Frankly, it's a little bit weird.
This whole topic has been the crusade of like two or three people.
The result is mostly just a fourth person being able to post shit like breibart without harassment.
Lemmy is still rather small.
Watching him 'help' the fediverse grow by constantly trying to divide and ostracise people would be ironic if it wasn't so obviously dumb
Yeah its pretty pathetic.
It's a massive astroturf of like 2 ultra liberal dumbasses who read Harry Potter and consider themselves expert on political theory
I hope he's at least on CIA payroll or something, it would be embarrassing to be THIS dumb without getting money out of it
I hear so much about how awful these instances are, but I never see anything in them.
Hexbear/Grad is difficult to see things from because most instances including yours iirc defeds from them
.ml is less widely defed'd from because they tend to keep things more subtle (possibly in an attempt to prevent a larger defed movement like what happened with Hexbear and Grad) and in the comments rather than overt in your face posts like Hex/grad tend to do and generally just get removed and widely downvotes when they try to post those comments outside the Tankie Triad safe space
.ml Is also more likely to just remove dissenting voices under their catch-all "rule 1"
.ml is also less likely to defed because one of the main Lemmy devs uses it as his home instance. So if you defed from .ml, you miss out on Lemmy firmware posts.
.ml is run by the Lemmy devs, and Lemmy is such a shitty piece of software that admins often need the devs to be actively involved during things like upgrades to keep everything from breaking. Therefore, they have to let .ml get away with things that would get any other instance defederated.
Nothing's going to improve until alternatives like PieFed, Sublinks and mbin become ready for prime-time. As long as we keep using the Lemmy software, we're fucked.
Can someone explain like I’m 5 how being against Nazis and capitalism is authoritarian bootlicking? Seems like the exact opposite.
Authoritarianism isn't exclusive to capitalism. You can have a communist country that is Authoritarian, like China or Russia. But they will fervently deny that China and Russia are Authoritarian, the various human rights abuses and lack of freedom at their feet in order to promote Authoritarian style Communism
They are against Nazis, but they apply that label to just about everyone who is against their views and/or what China/Russia pushes. They will say that Ukraine is completely run by Nazis for example, a propaganda line right out of Moscow.
Ukrainian leadership declared themselves Nazis. They’ve recently spent millions erecting monuments of famous Nazis, and are naming streets after them. Their soldiers are literally covered in Nazi symbols.
When someone tells you themselves that they’re a Nazi, why do you think your beliefs overrule their own self-image?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/03/08/wdtz-m08.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-leader-slams-kyiv-for-naming-streets-after-nazi-collaborators
Is .ca bad? I thought I picked an okay one from my countrymen.
.ca is great
That's not what the meme is saying... .ca is fine!
This reads so sci-fi dystopian.
Woo \o/ Hopefully this time the server I picked won't suddenly vanish and take all the communities I'd managed to find and subscribe to from me. 😅 Gonna make sure I make regular exports and maybe have a second account on another server just incase.
Are there any real communism/anarchism communities?
Follow the Anarchist Code of Conduct: https://wiki.dbzer0.com/the-anarchist-code-of-conduct/
slrpnk.net looks cool, haven't tried it yet
You want lemmy.ml. They are obviously quite annoying, so many instances have defederated with them.
Locking, thread has spireled wildly off topic.
I'm really liking it here!
Welcome!
Glad to be here!!
Yeah… we’re kind of fun.
Also, it defaults to "Active" view, which is the least updated. You can set your posts to "Hot" and then switch between "Top 6 Hours" and "Top 12 Hours" to get the most of your experience here. It will seem dead with the default.
I usually sort by new comments. Sometimes you'll see 1 year old post still active in the comments. It's neat
Game changer
I still wish there was a better sort algorithm. Nothing compares to Reddit’s front page algorithm. I usually cycle between hot and top 12 hours.
I think it is good that we don't have reddits front page algorithm. I want to stay in charge of curating my feed and prefer there not to be intransparent fuckery in the background.
I want to know that a post with 850 upvotes has indeed been upvoted by 900 accounts and downvoted by 50 accounts, instead of some weird calculations up- or downscaling it.
Top 6 and ALL is where it's at.
You can tell they're communists cuz they live rent free in the heads of every .world user.
calling tankies communists is like calling Scandinavia socialist
This would be incorrect.
For them to even have the option of rent being waived, that would have to mean that we are all, in some sense- landlords. And it’s commonly known in these parts that landlords are perceived as greedy capitalistic pig-dogs, so, if we are to assume for the sake of discussion that this is true-
… then there can be no reality in which anyone or anything lives rent free in our heads.
INever takes long for something to become the People's Front of Judea hating the Fucking Judean People's Front.
There's even some instances with old reddit-like styling/formatting, if you're into that sort of thing.
I'll pimp my example: https://old.lemmy.fan/
Given the instance we are on: https://old.feddit.uk/
i've only ever used https://old.lemmy.ca/
That works great on mobile!
Man Reddit really has something with that old UI. The new one runs like trash.
You'll feel right at home, the mods will powertrip, erase comments and ban you just as fast as the Reddit clowns.
Man you're getting worse than the hexbear edgelords who just shit on the liberals all day, except at least they're yelling at people in power and not some extremely marginal leftists who would be shot before they could ever take a seat in politics.
A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don't like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.
A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don't like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.
Sounds good, except I believe them to be actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmy-verse, so it's important to make a clear stand, if total defederation isn't happening.
I'd rather not Lemmy end up as another Voat. I've already seen tons of stories from the original rexit of "I tried Lemmy, but .ml/hex/grad seemed cringy/hostile so I left"
the reputation of the Lemmy-verse
As long as the main devs of Lemmy are Dessalines and other communists, then the reputation of the Lemmy-verse being tied to a bunch of highly communist instances is just an objectively correct fact. Liberals are free to fork their own version of the software and call it something else.
For help migrating: [email protected]
You again? Just go back to Reddit, nobody asked for you to be here
This person's views don't represent the fedi community.
I don't know why I would block Lemmy.ml when it's more entertaining to get banned from their communities one by one!
One by one? Dessalines blanket bans you from everything if you break one of their unwritten rules. Relatedly, just write out your rules. Stop trying to be sneaky-deeky. It’s ridiculous, having ultra secret rules like some sort of boy’s club. Be up front about it. It surely doesn’t take long to write “avoid questioning China or Russia” in the sidebar
Yea, getting site-banned is also fun, I can make posts like these and none of the .ml tankies can see it outside their alts LMAOOO
I'm kinda new to the fediverse. What did lemmy.ml do?
their admins (the maintainers of the lemmy codebase) are tankies (authoritarian communists who believe the USSR was justified in quashing Hungarian protests against human rights abuses with violence). they take any criticism of the people's republic of china's government as sinophobia and have some weird opinions about the fascist government of the russian federation (effectively their explanation is that moscow achieved communist utopia in 1918 and therefor cannot backslde into a worse form of government despite overwhelming evidence that the potato shaped dickhead who sits atop the throne of skulls in moscow is maybe possibly perhaps a war criminal)
I'd recommend visiting it or joining an instance that federates with it at least. The liberals like to make it out to be a communist propaganda machine but most of the content is memes, oss, and general left wing / anti-US stuff. They will ban you on some communities if you bring up tianemen square or uyghurs though, so that sucks, but otherwise most of the content / users on there are decent.
Yeah, I haven't had issues with them generally speaking myself, if you're a leftist you'll find comrades. But also, it's important to remember that every instance is essentially its own little fiefdom, so you'll have to follow whatever arbitrary rules they have.
I caught a ban on .world for mentioning Jury Nullification. That was a fun time, from the people who complain about freeze peach constantly.
Also, you can go-to [email protected] and check out the pinned posts, Nutomic lead dev, Tankie, and .ml head admin is basically a transphobe on top (receipts in the second pinned post)
They'll also remove posts and ban you under their favorite catch-all "Rule 1 Bigotry" for anything critical of China/Russia
If you talk Ill of them, even on other instances comms they'll site-ban you. So basically like how Reddit mods of ol used to ban you for participation in unrelated subs.
You have been banned from r/pyongyang.
They helped elect trump
Unless shit has gotten better in the half year since I left, you guys still have extreme moderation issues, which means even with an extensive instance and user blocklist, you're still going to be constantly dealing with extreme takes
Most moderation issues stemmed from .ml, their influence has been in the decline and moderation issues are considerably better now
Unless the moderation "issues" you speak of are what the Right-wing conservatives of Lemmy complain about as "censorship" then no. And rightly so
I mean shit like moderators deleting comments because someone isnt capitalizing someone's pronouns (while otherwise respecting which pronouns the user they are referring to listed) and that thing 5 months back when the vegan instance was banning people for saying that feeding your carnivore pets a vegan diet was animal cruelty. While admittedly the pronoun one was in a more extreme leaning instance, the problem is its impossible to completely filter that shit out when you visit this site, I dont want to see shit from R/The_Donald on reddit but despite an EXTENSIVE blocklist on this site, I cant escape constantly seeing the lefts equivalent here.
Edit: Also I get the vegan thing is an old example, its a timestamp of when I last gave lemmy a try and then gave up
Edit 2: Also I strayed from my moderation point. My point was NOT that there was too much moderation here, my point was there wasnt ENOUGH. Most instances have like ONE active moderator
And remember, the biggest quality of life aspect to sites like these are the moderators. Of which this site has the same quality as the other!
Libs vs tankies is an authoritarian clown battle.
It is much closer to severing the militant flank of the left from the rightward flank that can be recouperated into maintaining the status quo.
Imagine dedicating this much of your free time attacking people for caring too much.
Especially when the general feeling seems to be this
FYI for anyone who comes across, this here is an example of a ".ml Tankie Alt" who may also just be a "UniversalMonk" alt account.
This "caring too much" they speak of is an inability to accept any valid and factual criticism of the CCP or Russia.
They also defiantly refuse to believe the Xi/Winnie the Pooh meme started in China, despite well documented evidence.
The tankies often call for "unification of the left" but it is deception, they are not left because they will support authoritarian ideals in lockstep.
ETA:
Try to avoid making unfounded allegations about other users - here we raise a wry eyebrow to dramas elsewhere in the Fediverse, not start them.
FYI for anyone that comes across, this here is an example of a conservative capitalist supporter who spends hours a day posting about imaginary tankies that fucked his wife or whatever weird shit pops into their head.
Individuals like this use the word tankie in the same way liberals use the word Nazi or conservatives use the word commie or how maga use the word dei or how toddlers use the word icky. It means whatever they want it to mean at the time, in most cases just being anything unpleasant to their delicate sensibilities.
Anyone using the term tankie on a left wing site is deeply unserious and solely exists to sow division and troll.
For context: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
Is there an asklemmy that isn’t .ml?
In a political time when we need to unite against MAGA fascists, I find this type of divisive post absolutely disgusting.
We don't need to replace one authoritarian with another one. Check out what a lot of auth communists did, once the Nazi party got in power in Germany.
Tankies are uniting with maga. So calling them out is doing exactly what you are asking for
How are tankies uniting with maga?
MAGA wants to stop arming Ukraine because they’re pro-Russia. The left wants to stop arming Ukraine because it’s a Nazi regime. Your failure to distinguish the two doesn’t mean they’re “uniting.”
Can you elaborate? How is this post divisive?
The reason progressive liberals believe that people to the left of them are actually the right wing is because they imagine they are as far left as you can be, and by left they mean right (correct).
This makes no sense at all to me. Are you talking about horseshoe theory?
No I think it's the insufferable purity comparisons and the collection of self-righteous dogma like Pokemon cards in lieu of any coherent plan or consistent ideology.
I found Lemmy when I switched from android to calyxos and a Lemmy world app had just had a recent update on f-droid basic... Reddit lost interest for me prior to the GameStop saga that recently ended it's "positive in the eyes of the public" stage and superstonk has no meaning when the CEO is openly betraying his investors. Reddit is mostly involuntarily celibate cat ladies(the smelly kind), and frankly it shows in the content.
the "smelly kind"? you seem like a nice guy