"If you don't wear Special Clothes around me I'm going to lose it."
When are we going to move past costuming for work?
Nonsense ideology that dates back to medieval times. I subscribed to it for years until I realized it had no bearing on my work. I tell my interns and staff “dress appropriately,” meaning be comfortable - unless we’re meeting with clients, whose expectations may not align.
Dress codes serve as class signifiers. Like most rules of decorum, they're cultural artifacts used to delineate the haves from the have-nots. They don't dislike the fact that Fetterman refuses to wear a suit. They dislike the fact that he dresses like the common people he actually represents. Whereas they dress like the people they represent - capitalist oligarchs. They're wanting to close ranks and keep people from realizing that not everyone in the senate serves the same masters.
People with their little collars and jackets and ties to make them feel important
Isn't the logic that it's an easy thing to use as a sign of conformance? A check to see if you're willing to compromise your personal choices for the groups mandate?
Is that good here?
Probably never. People will always judge others based on how they are dressed. We subconsciously attach a certain image of what people should look like. And these dress codes are often enforced by society indirectly. 99% of people would not want to have a lawyer dressed casually to court and will pick someone else even if the alternative is by all accounts not as good as the casually dressed lawyer.
My knee jerk reaction to seeing anyone in a suit is "Asshole".
I never got what the tie (leash) is for. Probably a reminder of a dog leash, to remind themself that they are dogs.
Time to dress up like it's 1799.
You see, this impacts them. Never mind that there's no actual impact, they only want those among them who behave as expected. Also, he got excessive attention due to his attire, which gave him a bigger audience for his political views.
Also, he got excessive attention due to his attire, which gave him a bigger audience for his political views.
Not necessarily.
People who disagree with his dress attire may not care to pay attention to his message/opinions (ex.: "This guy's a joke, I'm not listening to him").
Those who dismiss him because of his attire would, most likely, not listen to him, regardless. It's the others, who otherwise would know nothing of this man or his policies, who may be swayed in some way.
As someone who agrees with his dress style It shows that he's young and different And the uproar against his style made me interested in him as a person
*Btw this is the first time I've heard about it and strictly on first impressions
Once the Miserables found themselves outvoted in the Estates General of 1789 by about 3% of the population (the ones with money), it became very uncomfortable in France for aristocrats.
Just saying,
American's don't have the drive or the energy to care. We willingly lost 40 years ago.
And we'll continue to lose, willingly. Even in an era where our favorite junk food prices are rising, we're being nickel and dimed over subscription services and everything. As long as they aren't coming to rip us away from our comfy beds or couches, we're fine. Oh wait, they've been doing that with escalating prices of rent.
I guess we'll all just go and die then because at least in the afterlife, no corporate or governmental finger can touch death to influence capitalism on.
Would love to see some bipartisan support for banning congress members from trading stocks. Both sides are doing it to such a degree that they are more likely to be replaced before any legislation regarding this gets passed. Obligatory Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker link: https://twitter.com/PelosiTracker_/
Formal dress codes are upper class by aesthetics. Its just another little bite of compliance that one is expected to take before joining those in power.
It is funny and sad how many ways of getting ahead in society can be interpreted as testing your tolerance for bullshit.
Okay. All those fat old men (on both sides) wearing ill fitting suits should be expelled from houses of government until they wear a fitted suit. Same with the women.
Their priorities are “fuck you got mine”
need a retirement age for all public employees. I mean let them get paid to do nothing where we don't have to listen to them pretending to do serious stuff.
I'm old enough to remember when China raised the mandatory retirement cap from 70 to 75 and American journalists lost their fucking minds, insisting that President Xi (who turned 71 in the '23 election cycle) had committed some kind of unconstitutional legislative coup de tat.
A few months later, Dianne Feinstein died in office at age 90 and we were all told to celebrate how democratically her final two terms in office had shaken out.
died in office big can o'worms that https://www.google.com/search?q=died+in+office
I mean they kinda always had it out for hoodies.
Ever since that one congressman wore one to protest the treatment of black kids by the police for wearing them.
And where is the public uproar about this? I only hear crickets.
And where is the public uproar about this?
We've had crowds in the street protesting social injustice practically every year since the Seattle WTO riots of the 1990s. If you haven't seen a public outcry, you haven't been paying attention.
The problem is that the outcries are fractured, the movements regularly subverted by a combination of con-artists and police, and a lot of the mass media ideology poisons people against one another by ethnicity, religion, gender, and locale. Folks who can all agree that the Sacklers deserve a long drop from a short rope will scream invective at one another because one of them showed up wearing a BLM t-shirt and the other finds it offensive. Folks who all agree de-industrialization was a nightmare for the midwest will tear each others eyes out over the abortion debate.
That's even before you get to the intense bombardment of mass media, fixating on everything from Ukraine to Crime Wave to razor blades in candy to whatever the hotbutton gaff of the evening happens to be.
I don't think anyone is hearing crickets. More that we're trying to hear a finely tuned orchestra under the sound of exploding bombs.
The uproar is.... we're powerless.
any publicity is good publicity and maybe he can use this platform to get his messages across
Isn't insider trading literally illegal tho?
Technically, yes, per the STOCK Act. But there's a loophole for Congress.
It doesn't count as "insider trading" for them if the information they use is based on bills they are passing as a part of their job.
Democrats have repeatedly tried to pass a law to ban this loophole as well, such as Adam Schiff from January of this year, but Republicans always vote such bills down or have them die in committee.
To be clear, the TRUST Act was bipartisan. Sizeable majority Democrat, for sure, but it's not like it was all Ds for, all Rs against or anything.
Not if you're a member of Congress.
Not for congresspeople. Just normal citizens.
Mel Brooks said it best.
Actually George W Bush was the last person to raise the minimum wage. That's the second Bush for anyone who might not know.
Obama did nothing with it.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/government-contracts/minimum-wage
Obama issued an executive order to raise the wages of federal contractors to a minimum of $12.15/hr after the Pelosi/Schumer Congress fumbled the ball. Biden was reluctantly unopposed to signing a $15/min national bill, until the Manchin/Sinema Senate quashed it back in '21.
And it should be noted that the Min Wage hike Bush signed was only on his desk when Pelosi stapled it to the Bank Bailout of '08.
So this isn't a Dem/Rep thing, so much as it is a particular moment of convenience when certain progressive politicians can choose to exert leverage over their more conservative colleagues.
Pelosi/Schumer Congress fumbled the ball. Biden was reluctantly unopposed to signing a $15/min national bill, until the Manchin/Sinema Senate quashed it back in '21.
Of course Pelosi and Schumer "fumbled" it...that's because that's what they really wanted. And Biden, even though he said he would do that, he won't.
When Biden was running in the primary, he said outright that he'd veto medicare for all if it ever got to his desk. Does that sound like someone who would raise wages?
Obama did nothing with it.
And he had a supermajority for a time, which makes his inaction that much worse.
YES! And people still brainlessly say over and over "best president of my lifetime" about a guy that deported more immigrants than any other president combined, more than Trump, Obama was the one who started putting kids in cages, Obama that pretended Flint Michigan's water was fine, Obama allowed fracking to happen, which caused tap water in many places to become flammable. Obama took us from two illegal wars against countries that never attacked us up to at least 7. His drone bombings killed 90% civilians and those drone bombings were so frequent that they ran out of bombs for the drones.
Yes you read that right! The US military, which gets a bigger budget every year perpetually...ran out of one of their ammunitions, because they used it that much.
And under Trump, Pelosi and Schumer went out of their way to make sure the Trump administration got an even bigger military budget increase than they were even asking for TWICE!
Pelosi "TRUMP! With you! All roads lead to Putin! Now have a bigger military budget YOU RUSSIAN SCUM!"
Thanks Obama
looks like silly benaltrism which defeats our hoodie man twice.
Look, I'm all for raising the minimum wage, and if it ever comes across the ballot I would always vote yes. But this is such a shit take, of fucking course dress code is easier to deal with than the economics of the whole country. If you're going to critique the government, make sense at least.
I see your point and still agree with the OP. All this dress code did was make them look like fools and children.
Honestly, that is all dress codes other than the ones only covering common sense choices (e.g. no bikinis in the restaurant or no loose clothing around machinery) ever do.
Fuck’s sake, we don’t pay these cunts for theatrics and the resolution of trivial matters that they deem to be problems. They could all wear fucking jeans and a t-shirt for all I give a shit. These assholes are OUR EMPLOYEES, and they’ve been fucking us over since time immemorial. Yeah, no fucking problem - it’s $1M+ for any old shitbox in much of the country; half of the fucking cunts are authoritarians who are nakedly trying to take away our rights; economic stratification is worse than ever; 2nd in line to the Prez believes in fucking fairy tales and wants to subjugate everyone who doesn’t; I could go on ad infinitum, but no, let’s fucking worry about the clothes these fucking cunts have on, yeah?
It was easy because nobody added any other bullshit to it. Do you think it would have passed that easy if the democrats insisted it include funding for planned parenthood? Or if the republicans would only allow it to come to a vote if it included a ban on funding Ukrainians? The minimum wage hasn’t changed this millennium, this isn’t hard until they make it hard. You want to make it easy? Here it is, make the minimum wage match the minimum cost to live in in each jurisdiction, updated every 10 years with ( and by) the national census. If you can impose a fine you are a jurisdiction and it is your responsibility to implement. Done, next issue.
That solution isn't really a solution.
The minimum cost to live in each jurisdiction
There is no clear objective way to measure that. The absolute minimum to stay alive would technically be just enough for the single cheapest available food, and just enough water to avoid death (maybe not even that, if it's legal to just drink out of a river). I'm sure that's not what you meant. But anything beyond that has to consider the incredibly subjective quality of life question. So what you propose is really just a goal, not an actionable policy.
If you can impose a fine you are a jurisdiction and it is your responsibility to implement
That's a way bigger headache than I think you realize. At any location in the country, you could be fined by the federal gov, state gov, other states if you do business there, multiple levels of local gov (county, city, etc.), even your HOA might be able to fine you. But that all depends on thousands of existing laws and precedents.
Yeah, I hate how normalized these shit comparisons are for arguments.
One effects a few hundred people and doesn't really have much depth to it and is relatively inconsequential . One is extremely complicated involve a large percentage of Americans lives.
It's like saying "Oh look, Biden had time to make a Truth Social account but not stop the war in Gaza. Wtf"
I am not putting any opinions on anything besides how disparate comparisons have become..but the fact that these type comparisons are constantly repeated online does reflect a lot on Internet culture.
Epic hoodie man calls for full-blown genocide of Palestinians, crowd goes wild
Source?
Now is not the time to talk about a ceasefire. We must support Israel in efforts to eliminate the Hamas terrorists who slaughtered innocent men, women, and children. … We can talk about a ceasefire after Hamas is neutralized.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/john-fetterman-israel-position-explained.html
So basically, Fetterman believes that Israel can keep killing thousands of children as long as Hamas continues to exist.
I've from the city that fetterman is from. His position on Israel is a long-standing one and he believes in unequivocal and relentless support of the occupation, armament, and apartheid Zionist policies.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/john-fetterman-israel-position-explained.html
If true, every left leaning epic Twitter master American politicians i hear about end up pro-genocide lol. Very progressive.
Looking presentable is a priority no? I mean they're not dressed like British barristers, but I also think showing up to a legislature in a hoodie and shorts is trashy
Why though? Do you need to be uncomfortable in expensive clothing to make good laws?
Christ on a shitstick. Look around. You think our problem is that some dude wore a goddamn hoodie? No, looking presentable is not a fucking priority. Maybe you’ll realize that when you have a $657,190 medical bill to pay for a sick child or something.
I'm also going to get down voted to hell, but I feel like pants and a shirt without a pouch or hood isn't asking too much.
They don't have to be expensive clothes, but when I worked in retail I had to wear khakis and a nice shirt. it seems like an elected representative would dress better than a cashier at Walmart.
