U.S. could lose democracy status, says global watchdog
U.S. could lose democracy status, says global watchdog
"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
Anyone surprised by this? Anyone? Because I’m not.
New banana republic just dropped!
We should have never had the status given we still use slaves.
Having a for-profit prison system was a bad choice.
Who could have seen it coming ?
And a pay to win political candidate system, and a heavily monetized educational system. Who is surprised about the decline of the man who steps on his dick and machineguns his own foot?
The US is one of the most watered down democracies, even for a liberal democracy (which is severely watered down). Its a system where the needs of the many are filtered through the needs of the few. We dont need to "fix" liberal democracy, we need workers democracy (syndicalism).
Oh, but were not a democracy, were a constitutional republic hardy har har har har
- my republican friends.
Do your friends not understand that Republics are a small subset of Democracies?
Yes, though in all fairness, they were acquaintances. I unfriended them.
constitutional republic
So we're going to follow the constitution?
ohh
It's like talking to MAGA about Christianity So you're going to follow the bible?
ohh
we're a constitutional federal republic, with democratically elected representatives, but a plutocracy, in practice
- me, a political science pedant of highest/worst order
As a political science pedant, can you explain to me the difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic? I tried to Google "constitutional republic" but I just got a Wikipedia page that said they were the same thing.
Which I guess would fit, since republicans are absolute dumbfucks, but if there's actually some nuance there, I'm curious to know.
Thanks!
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Oh, we are? Is that why everyone other than hetero white males is getting mentions removed or protections gutted and/or removed? What part of the constitution that provides rights to all Americans is in play when this is happening? Go ahead, I’ll wait…
That would be my response.
And a few days after that, PragerU releases a video titled "Why democracies will fail eventually", which tells its viewers that democracy creates "moral decadence", and now a "strong leader" is needed to fix the issue, who might have told some noble lies like a parent tells their kid the stork brings the children when they're not ready for reality. And the video ends with a "Roman salute" over "God Bless America".
People tell their kids the stork brings babies because the parent is the one not ready to have the conversation.
The parent is avoiding their own humiliation. Telling kids how babies are made is not embarassing for kids. Kids have no reason to feel shame or judgement about these kinds of things….
Just pointing this out to show that the metaphor here is deeply flawed.
I hate that I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if this really happened
"Could lose"? We are long past this point. When you can chose between two parties and they try to manipulate the election as hard as they can, then that's a zombie democracy at best. And now? The president stands above the law. He can fire people illegally. He can disable law enforcement. Democracy in the US is gone. Hopefully only temporarily. Now it's up to people to act, take their rogue government down and repair what can be repaired.
To be fair they did explicitly say that this report includes no data from 2025.
Oh fuck ..
Baby, you haven't been a democracy for a while
Really? Seems like we had a peaceful transition of power just this year.
Democracy isn't defined solely by peaceful transfer of power. Our government is completely captured by monied interests. Public opinion has a near zero influence on policy.
The only party willing to accept defeat and not cry foul until their cult riots lost. It will never happen the other way around are you'd have be to a deeply vastly empty head to not know that.
That makes one in a row now.
Degree of democracy has more to do with the size of the ruling coalition relative to the size of the pool of the interchangeables. When power is shared within a large ruling coalition, there tends to be a louder and more influential voice by the interchangeables, leading to more democracy and better living conditions for everyone, including those in the losing coalition. Autocracies on the ruling spectrum tend to have tiny ruling coalitions.
Source: my memory of reading The Dictator's Handbook by Bueno de Mesquita and Smith. Highly recommended reading.
If the ruling coalition of the US is much smaller than it appears to be, then yeah, it's at risk of losing its foothold as a democracy.
That's not the only quality of a democracy.
"You’ve only been a democracy for only 50 years. Not unless you don't count black people... you are nearly as mature democracy as Botswana." - Lukas Matsson (Swedish guy) on Succession
Damn. When Sweden (or any Nordic country) says it, it really hits hard.
America is lost. Do not let Elon near your country.
Trump's approval rating us TOO DAMN HIGH!
Could? Do it now.
Just publish an addendum and yank it. The great experiment failed. We’re cooked, chat.
sorry for derailing a little:
why is there multiple links to choose from as a source? What exactly created that choosable format - are they automated, is this some system like groundnews or something?
EDIT: Seems to be only on some interfaces. I see it on the photon interface for feddit.org but I dont see that on the base fedditorg
Idk, don't have that on my client (Eternity) but that's dope
- Democracy isn't a status given by some watchdog.
- Democracy is shit
Oooh edgy.
I'll guess they are a college freshman or younger.
Anything else than democracy is shittier
"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947