Lemmy.World Announcements @lemmy.world lwadmin @lemmy.world 4d ago

[Completed] Lemmy.World update to Lemmy 0.19.9 on 16th of March, 16:00 UTC

Hello,

we will be performing the long awaited update to Lemmy 0.19.9 tomorrow.

We are planning for around 1 hour of downtime between 16:00-17:00 UTC on 16th of March.

You can convert this to your local time here: https://inmytime.zone/?iso=2025-03-16T16%3A00%3A00.000Z

You can find an overview of the changes in our previous announcement here and in the Lemmy release notes:

Update 16:50 UTC:

The upgrade was successfully completed at around 16:27 UTC, but we're still fighting with some performance issues after the upgrade. Our database and the outbound federation container are currently using significantly higher CPU than expected, which is still being investigated to identify the root cause.

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Congrats on the successful upgrade 🎉
Test
- successful
  
  Nice
  
  I can sort the comments [ new/old etc] now! ( Jerboa).
- Icles
- A picture you can hear, holy. Vividly, lol
  
  Love your punctuation. I can hear it in Chris Walken's voice
- Is that a young dr farnsworth?
  
  That's the guy who works at the cryogenics facility that Fry was frozen at for 1000 years.
  
  Dr. Farnsworth used to have red hair, the same as his ancestor Fry and his younger clone Cubert.
- Get you ass back in the Futurama instance before I paint your back porch red
URL Blocking, at last. Now I can block all those AI shit websites on my communities :D

And being able to comment on locked post, what a nice QoL enhancement :D
- URL Blocking, at last. Now I can block all those AI shit websites on my communities :D
  
  Huh? How? I don't see anything about this in the six linked changelogs.
  
  In 0.19.4, section "Moderation enhancements"
Are the comment upvote and downvote numbers gone intentionally?
- There are now settings to display or hide them
  
  That's cool, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I have all on in my settings:
  
  But the numbers don't show:
  
  I might be a bit confused, but I just went to my settings to see, and both "show upvotes" and "show downvotes" were ticked already, by default. I refreshed the page (Ctr+Shift+R), and it's still the same.
Someone ELI5 why Lemmy is or isn't ready for a Reddit Exodus.

Personally, I want it to be. Reddit censorship/shadowbans/deletes is outta control. Imo the problem lemmy has is on Desktop, since on Android there are some great apps like Boost that give it a Reddit-like end user experience, wheras Desktop experience in a browser is No equivalent of RES, or classic reddit. Opening images is very janky. I like RESs 'view images buttons, that untwirls all view image buttons. Using lemmy on desktop is a Chore. I can handle it. But I imagine its very much a bad taste and an impediment to a greater influx of average users.

Its about time we left reddit behind and make Desktop lemmy more welcoming. The times we're in requires a trustable platform. Reddit ain't it.
- in my opinion it's the login experience. selecting an instance is too confusing for the average user.
  
  I think it's just a matter of explaining instances in a clear and concise way. This isn't a Lemmy-specific issue though - it's a problem for all of the fediverse.
  
  https://join-lemmy.org/instances says "You can access all content in the lemmyverse from any server, so it doesn't matter which one you choose.", but that still leaves some things unanswered.
  
  It seems to have done a decent job of helping new users find a suitable server with a few simple questions though.
  
  Lemmy is an alternative to Reddit, you can visit https://phtn.app/ to have a look at the content, and install an app using https://vger.app/settings/install.
  
  For a more detailed guide: https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1j0xkqa/lemmy_as_an_alternative_to_reddit_using/
- https://old.lemmy.world/ has a "show images" feature
- Try this out and see: go to PieFed.social and make an account. See the sign-up wizard, which asks you what you interests are and subscribes you to communities based on that, and asks how much content you want to see with the keywords "Trump" or "Musk" - none, a little, or all/no filtering - and check out the user customizable and shareable Feeds that were recently added (the equivalent of multi-Reddits, a highly requested feature).
  
  The Fediverse is growing up. Lemmy... well, has the advantage of the legacy work put into it so far - e.g. all the apps that currently work for it (though with some, like Sync, falling behind).
  
  PieFed is even opening up new avenues in the democratization of moderation, allowing the user to control what they want. Lemmy, meanwhile, is somehow becoming more like Reddit over time rather than less - e.g. while it has the modlog, it lacks a modmail, and any notification of a moderation action (removal, locking, banning, etc.) and while it used to report the name of a mod who removed content (iirc you might be used to that on LW, being on 0.19.3, until just now?), now it just says "mod". So there is no way to appeal or ask about or even be notified that your content has been moderated. Even Reddit was more friendly than that!?!?!?
  
  The promise of the Fediverse is that we can keep hopping to new places, not that any one place will be any good, but the tools man, the tools... they are pretty authoritarian in nature, when you stop to think about it, they REALLY are. imho at least.
  
  And Reddit has the content. And no tankies (but does have conservatives). Overall, the vast majority of people (centrists mainly, and who don't use ~~Arch~~ Linux btw) prefer simply to remain on Reddit, seeing no real reason to move.
  
  What features does lemmy have that piefed is missing?
- For me to rely on Lemmy for news, there needs to be a LOT more action. Right now Reddit can be my sole news source because of how many people are on there.
  
  The problem can be seen when looking at Twitter/X and the exodus that has been happening there. Mastodon was touted as a Twitter alternative but the onboarding was so confusing due to being federated. People don't want to be confused they want things simple. This is why BlueSky took off rather than Mastodon.
  
  Anyone remember Diaspora?*
  
  Decentralization is not a new idea, it's just too confusing to the masses right now. While the Lemmy onboarding process is actually pretty good, picking an instance is a trip up (it was for me for a very long time and I'm tech-savvy). Until that part is solved centralized services will always have more migrating users sadly.
  
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  picking an instance is a trip up (it was for me for a very long time and I’m tech-savvy).
  
  Lemmy is an alternative to Reddit, you can visit https://phtn.app/ to have a look at the content, and install an app using https://vger.app/settings/install.
  
  For a more detailed guide: https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1j0xkqa/lemmy_as_an_alternative_to_reddit_using/
  
  I hear ya, it wast a trip up for me necessarily, I just okayed thru it and it all worked somehow (basically I'm big dumb yes man and it worked out, lol), but i def recall the sign up was more involved due to those extra steps. A potential solution i can see happening is maybe a top youtuber like Linus or MKBHD could ease the pain of onboarding by making a digestible video that effectively goes viral due to their reach. Much like Linus vids on quitting windows for Linux or ditching Google services.
This is the update that'll break sync, right?

Sad times, but I guess I'm gonna be deciding between boost and infinity tomorrow
- No it won't. That's the next major release, this is just LW catching up.
  
  partial breakage, the stuff that people on other instances have already been experiencing for a while.
  
  iirc there are still some additional issues with sync arising with the update, but it won't be entirely broken.
  
  Oh phew
- Give Voyager a try as well!!
  
  +1 for Voyager. It feels like a spiritual successor to Apollo.
- I used sync for reddit for years, but I kinda hope sync dies. But I also have an axe to grind with the dev after they invalidated the app purchases and made people buy it again to not have ads. Plus their inability to update on a regular basis is kinda terrible, and has continued. One of the top posts on the sync community when I checked was to not report PMs because it will actually report a random comment with the same ID, which is just a massive fuck up given the amount of spam PMs.
  
  Honestly I was fine with the rebuy at first since it was a significant recode AND because they promised to stay on top of development a lot better than they had in the past. Obviously that was a lie and that's why I'm frustrated with them.
  
  they invalidated the app purchases and made people buy it again to not have ads.
  
  Exactly. Not even a discount. I think it was even more expensive than the reddit version.
  
  I just checked. It's $20 to remove ads. Wow.
  I also checked to see how much it cost for the reddit version. I paid $4 to remove ads and $5 for the "pro" version. That's more than I've paid for any app. Now they want another $20 to remove ads on an app they neglect and ignore their customers? Disgusting.
  
  Plus their inability to update on a regular basis is kinda terrible, and has continued.
  
  Not just continued, but has gotten worse. Additionally, it's even more important to update more frequently because of the more frequent changes. It was also never fully functional for Lemmy. For example, spoilers have never worked.
  
  To add to all that, they don't even have the decency to pop in for a quick comment or two just to help people feel better.
  
  But I also have an axe to grind with the dev after they invalidated the app purchases and made people buy it again to not have ads.
  
  Is that even legal?
- Former Sync user of around 5 years. Recently switched to summit and it was a pretty easy transition. I've made plenty of rants about how the Dev just abandons paying customers and I finally had enough once I knew that it actually messes things up if you try to report some things.
  
  I can't make any other app look and feel as nice as Sync, honestly. I was trying out Thunder just now, and maybe I could get used to it but the user avatars don't work for some reason. I don't disagree about ljdawson though and I wish it was different.
- BOOST BOOST BOOST
- Try Summit, it's slick!
  
  Try Summit, it’s slick!
  
  Yeah, yet another proprietary app is really the place to go.
  
  Thunder works great, it FOSS, and under active development.
- Take a look at summit too!
  
  Summit is my main app for Lemmy.
- Lemmy Connect :)
  
  Accidentally replied to the wrong comment. Moved.
- Finally the people that got baited into adware like sync will be forced to find something better.
Finally, the ability to view (and delete!) your own uploads.

FYI, the sorting on the uploads tab is broken. Obviously I don't expect sorting by "top" or "controversial" or whatever to work, but sorting by "old" doesn't, either. It's always sorted by newest first. But at least it's something. (I know for sure I have images uploaded that were not used in posts.)
- What are you going to do with yourself with not being able to entertain us with your memes?
  
  Well in my reddit days, I would open the app, see it was still down and angrily close it again
  
  But with the far superior decentralized Lemmy-verse I just have to switch to an alt on a different instance lol
  
  So now the game plan will be open app, waste a minute waiting for the timeout on my .world account and remember why and then switch to my .cafe account LMAO
Good luck admins! And thanks for doing it during the Carabao cup final so I have something else to occupy my time while lemmy.world is down :)
Hopefully this will improve the sync/federation process between LW and other instances, especially those further away geographically :)
A whole hour of nice and quiet on the Lemmyverse? 😜

❤️❤️❤️
I can't wait! We'll finally get to do a real world test for the parallel sending features!! And if all goes well I'll get to save 5 Euro a month!

Thanks LW
- Only when they enable it 😆. We are also here waiting with excitement but it's nice to know there is someone else that can be the guinea pig 😋
  
  😁👍 Happy to be a sacrifice for the greater good
- Final bullet point here says otherwise: https://lemmy.world/post/23471887
Nice add👌
I'm not a dev/programmer, but does the version number starting with a zero suggest that Lemmy is still in a pre-release state? Like alpha or beta or something? If so, what needs to happen before it gets to version 1.0? Just curious! From my layperson's perspective, Lemmy runs great and I have no complaints about it, so I'm not sure what v.1.0 would look like. Or maybe it's all internal stuff that I'll never notice anyway?
- You are right.
  
  After 0.19.9 is said to be "1.0"
  
  Oh cool! Thank you 👍
- MAME (Arcade and various consoles/computers emulator) is at version 0.275 and it's been developed since 1996. 😀
  
  Wow 😆
It's a bit of a shame we don't see any significant new features in this release. Piefed seems to be developing at a much faster pace compared to Lemmy, which is a bit embarrassing tbh.
- considering that we're coming from 0.19.3, this does still introduce quite a few bigger changes for LW.
- It is in Python so that is to be expected:-). Fwiw Lemmy's search feature is still vastly superior. Everything else, I would say that PieFed either ties or exceeds the Lemmy experience, sometimes greatly so, and often there is simply no equivalent at all (like user customizable and shareable Feeds, which act like multi-Reddits).
  
  Mostly though, if you are happy with the Lemmy app that you use, then it's all good. Though PieFed is coming up strong to provide competition, which can only be a good thing for the entire Fediverse:-).
- piefed.dbzer0.com you cowards!
  
  piefed.dbzer0.com you cowards!
  
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Nice!
Good luck!

Looking forward to the webUI supporting defined thumbnails per post.
Wow. Finally.
Exciting!
I am looking way forward to posting images with alt text! They brought that in for 0.19.4 and it's the one thing that I've been really feeling the lack of on here since the start.
I directly noticed that the background color got brighter and looked in this community to see whether a post like this got published. I mean, congrats on the new update I guess but I liked the darker dark mode more 😔
- I recall thinking that as well, but fwiw you do get used to it and it's extremely minor.
  
  The fact that up and downvote counts sometimes appear on the left and otherwise on the right you never get used to though - I hate it.
Thanks!
Hey, do you think you can add the running version of the instance on the column that is on the right side of the lemmy.world website?
- No need to do that, you can simply scroll down to the footer and find the current version there ;)
  
  Right xd
Great stuff!

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