This isn't really a big news story, Bernie has been doing this pretty consistently. Yes, he was doing it under Biden too. Yes, this is purely performative, it won't have enough votes. No, this isn't antisemitic.
it's not just performative. Just because something isn't gonna work, doesn't mean you still shouldn't take a stand. Morality isn't something you can turn off and on depending on how useful it is.
He stuck (and is sticking) to the party line way too much for way too long, which is something you can criticize him for, but "Bernie supports the actions of Israel" ain't it.
Meanwhile in an another universe: "President Sanders and vice President Ocasio-Cortez congratulate Ukraine for becoming the newest member of the EU and NATO just a year on from a shock invasion and repelling the former Putin regime from the region"
Stop spreading false info. Maybe he isn’t doing it to your particular liking but he is fucking doing it and you’re all over this thread saying the opposite.
2024 Scoop: Sanders seeks to block $20 billion in arms sales to Israel
2023 Sen. Bernie Sanders says aid to Israel should be conditional, citing the toll on Gaza
I think what they’ve done is far more than merely defending themselves.
Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.
And let’s not even start on the forced displacement of almost a million (!!!) people.
Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.
This. It goes far beyond reckless, far beyond callous; it's literal genocide.
My friend the real death toll could be ten times the 40k killed I'm being told by the media. I don't know, I've never been there. Everything is so fucked it's hard to know who to believe.
man, looking at your history, you seem to go out of your way to have the absolute worst takes in history. I mean, it really takes work to be as hated as you are everywhere you go.
if israel wants to defend themselves, let them do it. there's no need for us to be the ones defending them. otherwise, it's not them defending themselves, is it?
Yes, they should defend themselves, but if we sell (not give away) weapons, I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm not saying we should defend Israel with American troops, but Israel has a right to exist and procure weapons
To add to what the other guy said: As Hamas is an insurgency working in territory that Israel is illegally occupying, Israel does not in fact have a right to defend itself. It has no right to do anything except get the fuck out of Gaza (including its territorial waters and airspace).
The money for these "sales" is aid from the US government.
Israel is unique in that they are the only country that gets its aid from the US government on January 1st, with interest, in cash. They have to use a part of it on American weapons and the rest they just get in cash.
I'm sure Sanders also has a bill or intentions to stop that, but that would be a separate bill.