This in general is the main reason for the ai surge.
Just dump the 2 sentence explanation into a prompt and hope something sensible comes from it rather than googling for half an hour.
Man pages are for people who already know a lot about Linux and understand all the nuances and understanding of Linux
Even after using Linux for many many years I still don't understand wtf nearly all man pages mean. It's like a fucking codex. It needs to be simplified but not to the extreme where it doesn't give you information you need to understand it.
Tbh that's most of Linux, not designed for average people, designed by Linux users who think that all others should know everything about Linux.
Tbh a lot of man pages don't even give you enough usage information to make full use of a package. I'm thinking of the ones which are like an extended --help block
They also usually assume a lot about the users' knowledge of the domain of the program itself.
In my experience, many programs' man/help is very brief, often a sentence or less per command/flag, with 2 or more terms that don't mean anything to the uninitiated. Also, even when I think I know all the words, the descriptions are not nearly precise enough to confidently infer what exactly the program is going to do.
Disclaimers for potentially dangerous/irreversible actions are also often lacking.
Which is why I almost always look for an article that explains a command using examples, instead of trying to divine what the manual authors had in mind.
l must be using man pages very differently from you. To me they are mostly the easy reference to check the available flags for a command, and sometimes the reference on available config file entries, e.g. ssh_config(5)
For those things I was using them quite soon when I started using Linux, because it's quicker than googleing every time if you just need one flag or one option name. For more complex things, like tar-and-gzip in one which needs like four, I still google though.
Probably there are very complicated ones too, the ones explaining subsystems or APIs of the kernel, but those I don't need as a user.
I don't get it either. I can see how you're getting confused if you end up in section 2 or 3 of the manpages or with the kernel calls. But that's not what a beginner is looking for. The manpages for the user commands are pretty alright. Sometimes even excellent.
It depends on who writes them, I guess. More "modern" software come with pretty good and concise manpages, meanwhile stuff like the coreutils still have manpages that feel like an incomprehensible mess.
After many years of tiptoeing through the distros, from RedHat 5 and Mandrake6 to Slack to Gentoo and now Fedora 41. The last thing I want anymore is to need to go RTFM.
I don't want to open a terminal to compile anything, (I got stacks of tee shirts), or goggle, (yes goggle), to make things work. I'm too old for this crap and I don't have that much longer to live wasting my short time remaining staring at a terminal and reading man pages. Distros and Linux by extension should "just work" in 2025. And thankfully they do-- most of the time.
You want to be a Sysadmin and a cmd line commando, have at it. I'm peacing out.
Now if only GUIs could be called and worked telepathically. Or better yet, fix any problems before they happen without me even knowing about it.
Did you know you can filter search results by time? When it comes to computer questions in particular, I always ask for results from within the past year.
As a CS bachelor, I feel like programmers are not so good at giving examples. They are used to refactoring to cover more general cases. It's a part that makes me struggle at mathematics the most, because good examples are like half of math.
Here's a excerpt from man chmod that can be summarized as "You probably want to mark the file you downloaded as executable. Run chmod +x FILENAME"
DESCRIPTION
This manual page documents the GNU version of chmod. chmod
changes the file mode bits of each given file according to mode,
which can be either a symbolic representation of changes to make,
or an octal number representing the bit pattern for the new mode
bits.
The format of a symbolic mode is [ugoa...][[-+=][perms...]...],
where perms is either zero or more letters from the set rwxXst,
or a single letter from the set ugo. Multiple symbolic modes can
be given, separated by commas.
A combination of the letters ugoa controls which users' access to
the file will be changed: the user who owns it (u), other users
in the file's group (g), other users not in the file's group (o),
or all users (a). If none of these are given, the effect is as
if (a) were given, but bits that are set in the umask are not
affected.
The operator + causes the selected file mode bits to be added to
the existing file mode bits of each file; - causes them to be
removed; and = causes them to be added and causes unmentioned
bits to be removed except that a directory's unmentioned set user
and group ID bits are not affected.
The letters rwxXst select file mode bits for the affected users:
read (r), write (w), execute (or search for directories) (x),
execute/search only if the file is a directory or already has
execute permission for some user (X), set user or group ID on
execution (s), restricted deletion flag or sticky bit (t).
Instead of one or more of these letters, you can specify exactly
one of the letters ugo: the permissions granted to the user who
owns the file (u), the permissions granted to other users who are
members of the file's group (g), and the permissions granted to
users that are in neither of the two preceding categories (o).
A numeric mode is from one to four octal digits (0-7), derived by
adding up the bits with values 4, 2, and 1. Omitted digits are
assumed to be leading zeros. The first digit selects the set
user ID (4) and set group ID (2) and restricted deletion or
sticky (1) attributes. The second digit selects permissions for
the user who owns the file: read (4), write (2), and execute (1);
the third selects permissions for other users in the file's
group, with the same values; and the fourth for other users not
in the file's group, with the same values.
chmod doesn't change the permissions of symbolic links; the chmod
system call cannot change their permissions on most systems, and
most systems ignore permissions of symbolic links. However, for
each symbolic link listed on the command line, chmod changes the
permissions of the pointed-to file. In contrast, chmod ignores
symbolic links encountered during recursive directory traversals.
Options that modify this behavior are described in the OPTIONS
section.
I really like the man pages for commands that have examples of some common usage at the bottom, that gets you kickstarted and you can just adapt your own command from the example.
Free tech tip: https://cht.sh serves practical, usage-focused help on common command-line tasks. You can visit the website, or even better, curl for what you want.
$ curl cht.sh/touch
gets you this:
cheat:touch
# To change a file's modification time:
touch -d <time> <file>
touch -d 12am <file>
touch -d "yesterday 6am" <file>
touch -d "2 days ago 10:00" <file>
touch -d "tomorrow 04:00" <file>
# To put the timestamp of a file on another:
touch -r <refrence-file> <target-file>
Append with ~ and a word to show only help containing that word:
$ curl cht.sh/zstd~compress
Result:
tldr:zstd
# zstd
# Compress or decompress files with Zstandard compression.
# More information: <https://github.com/facebook/zstd>.
# Decompress a file:
zstd -d path/to/file.zst
# Decompress to `stdout`:
zstd -dc path/to/file.zst
# Compress a file specifying the compression level, where 1=fastest, 19=slowest and 3=default:
zstd -level path/to/file
# Unlock higher compression levels (up to 22) using more memory (both for compression and decompression):
zstd --ultra -level path/to/file
I do that occasionally when.I don't want to lose/scroll back to the output currently in my terminal (or I want to refer to it while reading the manpage)
True but if you're distro offers a good enough user experience then you won't be spending nearly as much time in docs, as opposed to just enjoying your desktop.
Being for more "technical people" is just a lame excuse for bad UX.
its a giant wall of text i have never used that can be opened with the terminal command man <othercommand> where <othercommand> is literally any other command
I had to run this command once, not for the faint of heart, and takes about as long as a full OS reinstall...
sudo aptitude reinstall '~i'
This command reinstalls all registered packages on a Debian based distro, including Ubuntu and Mint.
Was totally worth it though, it kept all my files and config intact, and repaired all the packages that Timeshift borked up (my experience with Timeshift was BAD!)