What went wrong: the dnc. Running first biden, then harris. The two representative of a historically disliked administration. Not strictly their (harris/bidens) fault minus a few critical bits.
you cant run a left wing campaign by swinging to the right
you cant run a left wing campaign with no policies for the working class. No taxes on tips? Wtf is that? We already dont pay taxes on tips. 50k to start your own business? how many Americans do that? Fucking seriously? How about: minimum pto, minimum sick leave? Health care reform. How about taking fucking companies and china to task? She wouldnt even commit to keeping khan.
you can't run a campaign with a corporate carpet bagger and expect results.
you cant run a campaign on abortion alone. Im sorry ladies, I fully support you in this but many others including women dont. when many states already protect you its not a deciding factor for harris. Congressional positions yes. But not presidential.
Harris expected people to fall in line with no incentives, because..... Trump. And went out of her way to disenfranchise a minority group. Shrug hopefully the counting continues and Harris' manages to surprise us.
Mmm indeed. Would it be because harris offered them literally nothing in policies? And spent her campaign attacking students? Not directly mind you. Lets hope elections still matter in 4 years. Sigh i need to decide how im going to spend my time dealing with this.
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Good lord lady. Next time listen. Well im looking forward to the punching left thats going to be coming. Or will we blame black men? Latino men? Oh well anyone but the candidate i guess.
I think it’s pretty clear that the people who wanted Trump never really changed or decreased much, and that now they’re calling the shots.
I don’t think there’s any value in going much deeper than that. They seem to have done it fair and square. There just weren’t as many people who supported Harris.
Not that many of their reasons are genuine, of course. The economy? Please. He’s awful for that, he swore he’d make things worse. We know what that looks like.
But they’re the majority this time. It’s almost a Reagan level victory. It’s exactly what he always wanted. And part of our system is this: if you get the votes then you’re allowed to dismantle things. Because you convinced enough of us to go along with it.
I’m not sure what the next steps are, really. It won’t be pretty. But blame doesn’t seem appropriate, and neither does any effort to “do the work” and learn to try harder next time. The system will not be the same and the tactics we’re familiar with are no longer relevant. Change is here and it’s the bad kind.
So what we need to figure out is how to adapt to whatever that change ushers in. We’ll have to acquire new ideals that fit within the new constraints and we’ll need to do what we can in the service of those, and we’ll have to accept the diminished nature of some of our ambitions.
What are our new values? What does it mean to throw away so much that we’ve made? Who are we going to become? Who will we be able to keep at our side? Who will we lose? Who will we betray?
As a non American, the only hope for the world is to let you guys sink and for the US to implode. EU should have realized that 8 years ago and plan accordingly to reduce dependencies but did not.
I can't even fathom the fascism wave we're going to get everywhere...
I'm broken. I'm so tired of it and now I fear it's really all over. It's not 4 years, it's a revelation. We really are full of irredeemable hateful idiots. I'm not ok. I fear for our queer brothers and sisters. I fear for our families and neighbors. For our future livelihoods.
I'm afraid we're not all gonna make it out of this.
I don't know if this is the tipping point. But it feels like a mountain has fallen, in my heart. I want to crawl away. When I was just getting myself together. These next four years will be hell on earth for me. I'm going back on my meds
Am American. Voted for Harris, not that it mattered in California.
I'm truly sorry to the rest of the world. We just fucked over everyone. Like however bad you think it's going to be, it will probably be worse. I don't know where anyone could possibly go to survive what is coming, because he's going to plow through the last tipping points on climate change and ensure that the planet is an unliveable hell scape.
I didn't have any hope for carbon neutrality in the first place. My hope was for more of maybe a "falling with style" path to self-destruction for humanity, and not a head-first dive into the concrete.
That said, I'm 36, male, white and blue collar, so is my family. I have no concerns over them, but I keep and hold my concern for the rest of America.
Politically, I consider America a lost cause. I am currently looking towards avenues to become less politically involved, if only because now with an entirely conservative government, I don't see any real reason to care.
I'll probably spend the next four years reading 40k lore.
We’re all (earth) gonna get all the ugly that happened 100 years ago on the nose and everyone who voted for trump or didn’t vote at all will wonder why.
Market crash
Ww3
Interment camps
Greatest depression
I feel like the not-right will just take it. Just accept things. Go into the concentration camp. Let the government be dismantled. Let laws be ignored.
The right wing is full of bad ideas and hate but they organize and sometimes riot.
Everyone else seems too busy infighting and being smug.
Do you want to start the direct action to disrupt their agenda or should I? If we do that, our lives are over. If we don't do it, our lives may be over at a later date or it may only make it unpleasant.
There lies the problem. You have to have enough people willing to give it all and this country does not allow for that because at every moment we are desperately trying to survive. Hard to fight back from that position.
I got the news right before bed, so I didn't sleep. As the cool headed one in my family, I'm having to give pep talks to folks who are genuinely very frightened but there isn't really anyone to do the same for me--- plus, being more informed than my family, I'm also the most likely to actually know how fucked we are.
This isn't a great morning and I still have to teach a class later at an all women's university.
If it makes you feel better, the one genuine silver lining I’ve found is my family in the military say that the odds of these chucklefucks getting full military support is very unlikely.
I'm fucked man. I'm disabled and can't work, I just got disability benefits approved. I've known since 2016 that no "progressive" country will accept a disabled immigrant as a citizen even if they can work. I checked again today and nothing has changed. I stumbled on a reddit thread chastising an OP with autism (plus children with disabilities) for being in a similar position as me and bemoaning it, because why would a country accept a disabled person who doesn't benefit them after all, fuck disabled people reddit says. I can't even use my back pay to move countries since no one wants me. I wanted to either invest my back pay or use it to move countries if shit hit the fan, which is so out of reach now. Both of my parents are from Puerto Rico so there is no ancestral place I can run to. I never completed college because of my disability which appeared when I was a teenager and gets worse every year. My (not married and able-bodied) partner's ancestry is China and I told them they should move countries without me to get away but they want to stay with me even if it means being in this hellhole. I want to have a child when I am ready, but I am scared of a national ban on abortion which would endanger me if I was pregnant. My future feels over. So yeah, my depression and anxiety are in overdrive. Feeling desperate.
My state voted Kamala, they always vote for the conservative democrat and are worth very little electoral votes, insignificant really. I consistently voted Bernie, begrudgingly democrat, and this time around for PSL. My vote doesn't matter, I know that because of the way the electoral college is setup. Every local progressive I voted for lost to a conservative democrat. This time around there were no progressives on the ballot that I could root for, only democrats I have zero faith in that I voted for anyway. Most of the people around me do not vote because they they think it does not matter and everything is rigged. I mean it doesn't really matter I guess since Kamala won my state anyway and lost but fuck man. Shit is looking really bleak for me. I wish Bernie or De la Cruz won but that is just a pipe dream I guess. Kamala never inspired me, she wasn't really a progressive leftist and I did not think she would fix the country. Only maintain the status quo. I can only hope for a revolution now.
MLK Jr was a radical with socialist ideas. There's so many quotes to choose from during his later years but this seems most apt for me for now:
“If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty and make it possible for all of God’s children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to hell.”
No. Because nearly everyone around refused to take the possibility of a fascist win seriously and they still refuse to take the impending consequences seriously. People are still talking about "whether the Dems will learn anything and have a good candidate next election" as though the fascists haven't literally said that they are going to end democracy and commit genocide.
But you also didn’t offer a constructive alternative to a Trump presidency.
I know you’re all on your anti-genocide high horse by abstaining from the vote, but the silence from the far left has allowed the exact same genocide to continue in Gaza, along with the potential genocide of minority groups in your own country.
So, bravo.
As a leftist myself, I hope you feel the brunt of this presidency more than those who tried to fight it.
Nah. Plenty of anti-electoralists/accelerationists were happy to spread propaganda to help Trump. Now, as a far-leftist that doesn't buy that tripe, I'm gonna have to try to help people whose lives are now in far greater danger while they get off on their "moral superiority". Those people and Stein supporters can go fuck themselves while the grown-ups try to save people from the intended death camps.
EDIT: I didn't mean "regular" leftists like progressives and anarchists.
Use that natural camouflage to your advantage. Take notes. Remember who betrayed their community, and ensure they are shunned when the time comes for us all to have to look to each other for help.
The heartbreak is such that today I feel like I want to give up on the entire concept of caring for others as a futile pursuit. Humanity’s darkest impulses are going to be off-leash here, and elsewhere, for at least four years, the chances of avoiding rapid catastrophic climate change have gone from maybe 20% to 0%, and it feels like nothing matters.
Trying to focus on caring just for myself and my family, but the flame has seemingly gone out.
My kid got sick and was puking. I jumped at the chance to take some PTO to take a day off. It was a welcome distraction. I fell asleep on the couch holding her while she watched kids shows. That's about all I could bring myself to do. I don't have much left in me anymore. Just gotta take care of the kids and be ready to leave the country.
I remember when I said Biden is elder abuse and Kamala is a corpo dem and maybe this time round if the dems lost DNC AND Kamala are to bear the full blame and responsibility for the loss. Not the voters. Not independents. The DNC and Every Single Democrat Politician. Directly Responsible For This Loss. DNC should be dissolved.
Only Republicans / GOP on one side and Independents on the other side until a new Party for the people and Of the people emerges however long that it may take or may be in forming.