Perfect example of the irrational hatred people have had instilled in them by their governments/parents/education. To be clear, this guy saw a group of UNICEF workers on the street trying to help people, and thought "no, they're helping the people I've been taught to hate, so I will attack and threaten them with violence/death for doing so."
Absolute muppet. Should be rounded up and sent back to his shithole country.
Yeah im sure his hatred is his own, but the specific targeting of UN staff is not his own idea. Its an implanted idea that utilizes his existing hatred and gives it a target in order to quell potential internal resistance in the Israeli population.
Yeah you're right, these people are just born monsters, as a baby he was probably already biting the other babies when he got the chance. In fact, shouldn't even consider these people human right?
Well, the video starts already well into the altercation and that's a high-end main shopping street with all the most expensive shops and the kind of place where there is usually police around, but yeah it's a a bit of of 50\50 thing whether even in a place like London or Paris a copper would pop-up in time for the video.
Also it depends on how likely people are to call the police in such a situation (if the guy did this in, for example Scandinavia, the police would likey end up involved).
He's certainly not built like a soldier. Soldiers have legs like baseball players, because they're carrying heavy shit over long distances all the time.
You know the nice part of being a very traditionally masculine person is being able to promote basic human rights without these people scaring me. Try me bro, weight classes exist for a reason.
Yeah but it is nice to be able to defend yourself against violent people. Also as the other reply said i do appeal to certain kinds of people and maybe they wouldnt listen to a trans person about trans rights but will listen to me.
Yes, but I think the point is that strong man types do appeal to a certain demographic that they are trying to influence, not that it appeals or should appeal to themselves or the general population
I'm reminded of a clip that I've seen that originates on Tik Tok about a guy who says something similar to what you're saying here, including a clip where the guy went and shouted at a neo-nazi to basically say "you're not welcome here, fuck off".
I found it interesting because he explained that this isn't usually something he would do because he's very much a voice against toxic masculinity and this means that generally he doesn't want or need to take the role of the angry, scary man. In this instance though, of the many members of his community who were uncomfortable with a neo-Nazi spewing hate, this guy was best situated to challenge this. I found it especially interesting because there's a particular kind of aggressiveness to it — like, obviously going up to someone and shouting at them is aggressive, but it was clear that this guy wasn't going for a fight
As far as I understand, a successful fight is mainly being to the first one to commit to it. I might stand up to this guy but in a fight lose miserably because I’m unlikely to hit first nor to follow up sufficiently nor would I even have a plan for inflicting enough violence. As a soldier I’m sure he has all of the above
I was a bouncer for 10 years. This is pretty much correct but its also about intensity, if someone starts off with anything lower than 11 out off 10 thats the opening.
Street fights arent boxing matches, theres no rules. You swing at me in public I assume you are intending to kill me and act accordingly until you back off or cant hurt me anymore.
Sure, crazy video, but you don't know whether his girlfriend wasn't raped and killed by Hamas on October 7th last year. Don't just judge people from bad times they're having, as hard as that may seem.
So hypothetical raped & killed girlfriend by Hamas = has a right to shout at a volunteers for a UN charity organisation stopping kids from dieing of starvation and disease?
Be careful you don't break your spine bending over that far backwards to excuse his behaviour.
Yeah, but many were. Just like 60k Palestinians were killed. So many people are traumatized, what I am saying is exactly what you are: stop fabricating narratives from a few seconds of someone's bad day. You know nothing.
The rape narrative has been massively overblown with little evidence backing it up besides racial bias against brown men. Did some women get sexualy assaulted, probably, was it widespread and systemic like the media is pushing, probably not. This isn't to excuse the disgusting behavior of hamas on October 7th, just saying it's more likely this guy sexualy assaulted Palestinians in an Israeli jail then his girlfriend being assaulted.
Just cause a member of a group did something bad to you doesn't give you the right to abuse that group back. If that guy's girlfriend was sexualy assaulted by a black person that doesn't give him the right to yell slurs and push around black people on the street. This guy wasn't yelling about hamas he was yelling at the idea of Palestine, that's just straight up racism.
sure you also dont know whether the girlfriends/wives/children of the Hamas members weren't shredded to pieces by Israeli bombs before they joined Hamas
A crazy fucking comment, right? Eh. I tried to make a point about not judging people before you know their history, but did so very badly, I guess. Should I delete the comment? What do you think?
When we talk about Palestinian violence we (rightly) put it in context of the oppression they suffered. You can't expect an oppressed people to react kindly and patiently to their oppressors. But this guy apparently does not deserve this circumspect approach. We know nothing about him other than he is claimed to be an Israeli soldier but he might have any number of mental illnesses, PTSD, what have you. But we're perfectly happy to label him a monster, no questions asked.
I'm not trying to justify any violent behavior obviously, but we sure do love putting the excesses of "our" side in broader context, and highlighting perceived injustices of "theirs" without context.
You're saying that under no conditions whatsoever you would start shouting at people in public? That you would get violent to defend something that was important to you? Please don't be an idiot.
Look, I get it. I read through this thread, and I get the point you're making, absolutely.
Always, always remember that we're all human and prone to horrible errors of judgement. We don't know the dude, we don't know his story that led up to this.
What you seem to be missing is that a past trauma is no more or less likely than a neutral or positive past. None of those excuse assault and battery. You can absolutely judge a person based on their actions. We do it all the time in jury trials. Him having had some kind of suffering related to Palestine or Hamas wouldn't mean he wasn't guilty of assault and battery, though it might mitigate things for sentencing.
Would those UNICEF workers now be justified in going somewhere, screaming at some Israeli bank teller and head butting them? No. And I think you know that.
I applaud your compassion. We should always consider such things in forming opinions. We also do not have to forego judgement because of that compassion.
Here he is, guys. Lol. What the fuck does a UNICEF worker have to do with Hamas? How is this normal behavior anywhere? That dude should be arrested. I'm guessing he's more of the type of guy that spends bad times around. It may be the I'll fuck you in the ass or the headbutt. Idk.