Donald Trump has expanded his threats to all immigrants.
It’s official: Donald Trump’s plan for massive deportations would apply to legal immigrants, as well as undocumented immigrants.
During an exclusive interview with NewsNation, Trump said he planned to strip the legal status of the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, who have been granted Temporary Protected Status.
“Springfield is such a beautiful place; have you seen what’s happened to it? It’s been overrun. They have to be removed,” Trump said.
“So you would revoke the Temporary Protected Status?” asked the interviewer.
“Absolutely, I’d revoke it and I’d bring them back to their country,” Trump said.
The headline makes this sound more encompassing than what he says. Revoking temporary legal status is different than revoking from people with green cards or naturalized citizens. I don’t agree with what he’s saying he will do, but it’s worth clarifying which group of people this actually effects.
Is it worth? He didn't care for what status or protection this specific group had. It's not like he's making an argument for that type of asylum. If it's mexican greencard holders he thinks are eating the dogs, they'll be next.
The headline is accurate, he wants to deport people who are in the US lawfully.
This isn't the actual point, it's about canceling citizenship for 2nd generation kids, because they might not vote for the same rednecks they believe should be running the country.
Ironically, if they were even marginally human and unracist, those conservative catholic Mexicans would vote GOP in droves, it's just the brutal, inhuman explicit racism that pushed them blue.
You say that as if the United States deporting indigenous US citizens to Mexico isn't a thing that's actually happened before.
(Wikipedia calls it the "Mexican Repatriation", but the only differences between a mixed-race "Native American" from the Southwest and a mestizo "Mexican-American" from the area of the Mexican Cession are speaking English vs. Spanish and how they choose to self-identity.)
I remember my entire life up before this Haitian thing, Republicans would always say "we like legal immigrants, we want fewer illegal immigrants." Even though they would actively try to reduce the number of new legal immigrants too. Now they're full on supporting deporting the legal immigrants too.
You'd think that would be alarming for anyone whose parents weren't born here, but it barely seems to register.
More than 70. Basically right back to the post civil war era. Around 1880 we started really trying to close the doors to people we considered understandable. Then in 1924 they introduced the quota system to really limit immigration.
You know, this guy somehow sounds more and more like an actual Nazi every day. I'm starting to think he might have actual racist views and desires that will really fuck things up.
(/s since I always forget it's not obvious, clearly a Nazi offspring has Nazi views)
Keep in mind "immigrant" is simply a dog whistle to these freaks. It means "brown or black people", regardless of legal status. They don't care that that's not accurate, it enables them to hate and hurt people they don't care about enough to try to understand...
Nobody who’s been to Springfield would call it a beautiful place. It’s a small city in Ohio. I’ve I’ve been there several times, and I’d mostly gone several years without thinking about it. It’s fine. The Haitians didn’t ruin it they gave it character it sorely lacked
As someone who's regularly been to Springfield, oh over the last decade. It's not a beautiful place, it hasnt been for a long time. Most of downtown had been hollowed out and turned into parking lots, other buildings are deep in disrepair, which is contributing reason why it's not recovered as quickly as neighboring cities like Dayton, Urbana, and Xenia.
It's a hard hit rust belt city, long dealing with addiction and other deaths of despair.
I think that's an unhelpful narrative. I think a better narrative is people who needed help and got it, improved their community.
The residents of Springfield have needed help for a long time and haven't gotten nearly enough and that's why things hadn't gotten better until now. The immigrants who have arrived and improved things are people who got the help they needed.
To be quite fair, if he's elected again and my wife gets deported back to Japan, I get the sense I'll also just be happier in Japan. Too bad he's also a threat to the world, though--- there's a reason I'm not really hearing "if he's elected, I'm moving away" stuff like the first time or back in the Bush years.
During an exclusive interview with NewsNation, Trump said he planned to strip the legal status of the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, who have been granted Temporary Protected Status.
“Springfield is such a beautiful place; have you seen what’s happened to it? It’s been overrun. They have to be removed,” Trump said.
“So you would revoke the Temporary Protected Status?” asked the interviewer.
“Absolutely, I’d revoke it and I’d bring them back to their country,” Trump said.
During his first administration, Trump rescinded Temporary Protective Status orders for immigrants from El Salvador, Haiti, Nicaragua, Sudan, Nepal, and Honduras, placing hundreds of thousands of legal residents at risk for deportation.
Trump and the interviewer are talking about Temporary Protected Status, which is temporary.
A TPS designation can be made for 6, 12, or 18 months at a time. At least 60 days prior to the expiration of TPS, the Secretary [of Homeland Security] must decide whether to extend or terminate a designation based on the conditions in the foreign country.
TPS eligibility for people from Haiti will last until February 3, 2026 unless it is extended. If during a Trump presidency, the federal government does not extend TPS for Haiti, it would be acting well within its established authority.
The interviewer was the one who used the word "revoke" but Trump does seem like the kind of person who could attempt to end the TPS designation early rather than waiting for it to simply expire a year into his term. Such an attempt would have very little chance of success. Decisions to terminate (as opposed to revoke early) TPS status during Trump's past presidency are still going through the courts (see Ramos, et al. v. Nielsen, et al.) and not in effect.
Man, I can't believe 10 years of Trump and people are still doing this "sure, he said that, but he's actually a brilliant legal and political tactician and what he means is........"
The man is a moron, surrounded by the most hateful motherfuckers on the planet. He says what he Fucking means.
But he's not saying he'd not extend the TPS. He's saying he'd revoke it (for Haitians (in Ohio)).
I imagine if someone tries to get him to say exactly what he meant by this, he'd just do his standard backpedal and hide in obscurity or accuse the reporter of being rude.
His inability to speak clearly and his frequent desire to be pointlessly cruel are both reasons I won't vote for him, but I do think it's important to note that he's not proposing to deport permanent residents.
You can't have it both ways. Trump supporters say "he tells it like it is" and then turn around and say "well he didn't actually mean what he said, he actually meant this other thing". Which is it?