Until that day, let’s hope people recognize that there really are only two votes that will end up counting. I still regret voting for Nader when Bush stole the election in 2000.
What you wrote is a simplification and it's also wrong in general. For people who don't live in swing states, one vote more or less isn't going to change the election. This is especially true if you're in an obvious minority in your own state.
Also, the two established parties realize that people think what you think, and that gives them an excuse not to represent their base. The term used back in Bill Clinton's days was "triangulation". One of the ways of keeping presidential candidates honest is to vote for third parties if necessary.
Finally, it's important to keep in mind that the stance you have here is something that many of us have heard for decades.
It is really nice knowing that I can safely vote for our "green" party without risking our conservative party getting in because the centre-left party loses too many votes.
Also, voting being mandatory (and very accessible) and on a Sunday for federal elections is such a game changer for ensuring participation.
Hopefully you guys can get reforms in at some point.
Low voter turnout benefits the Republican Party in the US because conservatives are more consistent voters. Reform requires 60 votes in the Senate out of 100. That makes it almost impossible because one of the major parties is not interested in reform.
Most countries with presidential systems have two-round voting which is effectively very close to ranked choice voting. That’s why e.g. Macron’s new party could immediately win the presidency.
The first Trump criminal trial starts tomorrow. Trump's fundraising is being crushed by Biden. RNC is hurting for cash and what is there is being gobbled up by Trump's lawyers. Down ballot candidates will have zero assistance.
Republicans are facing the most devastating defeat in their history. Polling has been garbage for two election cycles. Just look at the writing on the wall. Trump is running on fumes and it's only going to get worse.
All of the above appears to be true. Trump is being slammed both in court and out, and Trump's fundraising is going to his legal bills while Biden's getting more money and needing to spend it on fewer things. The early polls were scary, for sure, but Bidens numbers are improving, possibly because we're getting more real pollsters in the polling, possibly because less invested people are tuning into the election and realising that as much as the past 4 years sucked, Trump's handling of COVID and his approach to governing are much worse.
Still. We need to be careful with 'we've got this in the bag' thinking. We don't call TFG 'Teflon Don' for nothing. That guy's got more lives than a cat, and is wileyer than a fox. And you know what he's going to do based on what he's accusing other people of doing. We have got to turn out in exceptional numbers and UTTERLY CRUSH TRUMP at the poll box. Even then, we may need to brush up on our self-defence skills because I wouldn't put it past Trump and his backers to actually start an honest-to-goodness coup complete with guns and armies if he loses it. I'm not going to rest until Biden is reinaugurated in 2025...
I agree 100%. But also I think that a politics board on Lemmy is mostly going to be populated with folks who don't need to be told to vote no matter what. Local races are still important. And as you point out, winning by the biggest margin possible is important so even if polling has Biden with a 20 point margin, we've got to turn out and push it even higher. Plus local races are honestly more important to folks' day to day than who is President.
So absolutely everyone vote, but that message will be more important as the election gets closer and mostly in places that aren't full of politics nerds.
Polls are wildly conflicting. A recent Rasmussen survey found that Biden trails Trump regardless of third-party candidates.
In a two-way contest between Biden and Trump, 49% of likely US voters said they would choose Trump, and 41% would vote for Biden. That was a marginal increase for Trump since February, when he led by six points.
It amazes me how many people seem to forget how much the polls played in Trump's victory. The media practically encouraged people it 2ould be such a landslide for Hillary that people didn't bother to vote. Trump has never won an election. The fucking retards running the DNC keep losing elections by their own incompetence. I feel like we keep living out the episode of Avenue 5 where the actor playing the captain in a TV sitcom wins the fucking election. We haven't had a deserving president since Obama and in THIS election I would vote for Baldwin's SNL Trump over either of the geriatric fucks who are actually running.
Multiple new polls show Joe Biden strengthening slightly in the US presidential election, but suggest third-party candidates could present a risk to his chance of carrying the White House in November.
Asked a follow-up question that added the independent candidates Robert F Kennedy Jr, an environmental lawyer and vaccine sceptic, the Harvard professor Cornel West, and the Green party figure Jill Stein, Biden took the greater hit to his support, leveling with Trump at 38%.
“This is not surprising, given that RFK Jr is on most issues a traditional progressive leftist, which makes him indistinguishable from the current leadership of the Democratic party,” Jones wrote.
According to the Kennedy campaign, the candidate and vice-presidential pick Nicole Shanahan currently have enough signatures to get on the ballots of just six states: Hawaii, Nevada, Utah, Idaho, North Carolina and New Hampshire.
Earlier this month, third-party group No Labels announced it would not field a “unity ticket” candidate after reaching out to 30 potential people and raising $60m despite assessing that “Americans remain more open to an independent presidential run and hungrier for unifying national leadership than ever before”.
Kennedy, who has consistently denied his candidacy is in effect a “spoiler” to Democratic hopes of retaining the White House, is not the only worry for the party currently holding executive power.
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As an outsider, I feel that the Democrats would have an easier time turning third parties over if they didn't push a dementia patient who could lose the last of his competency next term.
Biden poses a danger to Biden. He's done nothing just like all prior democrats, to earn our vote. That sane hubris cost Hills an election that was hers to lose.
What you smoking bro? There are extremely valid criticisms of Biden but "done nothing"? What kind of bubble do you live in that you're so utterly ignorant.