Donald Trump, the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, told his supporters on Saturday to "go into" Philadelphia and two other Democratic-run cities to "guard the vote" in 2024, repeating his unfounded claims of widespread election fraud in 2020 as justification for the call to ac...
Speaking at a campaign event in Iowa, Trump said it was important to scrutinize the vote in the battleground states likely to determine the general election. He singled out the biggest cities in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.
"So the most important part of what's coming up is to guard the vote. And you should go into Detroit and you should go into Philadelphia and you should go into some of these places, Atlanta," Trump said in Ankeny, a suburb of Des Moines.
Trump's comments foreshadow what is likely to be a contentious election in November 2024. Despite the failure of dozens of lawsuits filed by Trump and his allies challenging the outcome in 2020, Trump continues to claim, without evidence, that he lost to U.S. President Joe Biden due to fraud.
Edit: I feel compelled to make it clear that I don't want anyone to die due to political violence. However, if someone has to die I would prefer it be those who seem hell-bent on undermining the democratic process.
It’s sad that I knew what you meant before reading your edit. Like we all know that this next election will result in violence. We can all only hope that it’s against the right people..
Probably. But for every Trump fascist getting arrested or making a video "patrolling" a ballot box drop-off, for every fascist getting killed, those are huge news stories that will make voters reconsider if it's even safe to vote. It'll have a massive chilling effect on voters who aren't obvious Trump supporters. Which is the point: fear.
In California, it’s an issue of fairness to count ballots cast by people who then die before election day, Secretary of State Alex Padilla said. He said it’s just as conceivable that someone who votes early in person also dies before election day, and there is no way to identify and reject that ballot.
To everyone who called Trump a Nazi seven years ago, I owe you all an apology for dismissing your concerns as hyperbole, because I legitimately thought this guy was saying outrageous shit just to rile up the Republican crowd and clinch the Republican nomination against all odds.
After what happened with Jan 6th, it seems Donald is hell-bent on usurping democracy and bringing about the Fourth Reich, and now I'm seriously worried that America is going to sleepwalk straight into Fascism.
And with all you said, and the evidence we have of Trump being a fascist, people will still not vote Biden as a "symbolic act". We may have a hellish few years coming ahead of us.
A good chunk of the accounts I see posting those comments are probably bots judging by their post histories. You'd either have to be in favor of a fascist dictatorship or willfully ignorant at this point not to vote for Biden. I don't like Biden or most of the Democrats, but Republicans have done little to nothing for Americans that are not rich. At least with Democrats there's a sliver of a chance with future generations that we'll get more than a shitty two party system, with Republicans now there won't be anything but regression and fear mongering.
Fascism and dictatorships are not good for business. International trading partners won't want anything to do with businesses located in the United States if this happens. A democracy provides a trustable and reassuring legal framework to ensure stability of contracts. International complaints are not going to be upheld under a Trump government.
This is why everyone knows you don't do business with China.
Although if you have to have a dictator I suppose Donald Trump is probably the best dictator since he and his staff are regularly outwit by squirrels and things found growing under stones.
Right people make fun but this is a longer term strategy to make the poll workers quit so they can be replaced with actual fascists who will actually shred ballots of anyone who looks too Democrat.
I don't really understand how the US voting system works. But if enough people in states he would have lost decide "Fuck it, not worth the risk of going out to vote", even if that includes people who would have voted for him, would that benefit him? Reducing voter turnout across the board in states he'd have lost? Legit curious if that might be his goal or if that makes no sense.
To this day, Trump claims that he actually won in New York and California, among other safe blue states. Fit the record, the last time NY went red was 1984 and the last time California went red was 1988.
Trump's convinced that there was "voter fraud" that turned those states blue, when they've been blue for over 30 years. He thinks that, if you removed all the "voter fraud," he really won in every state.
My guess is that he thinks voting for a Democrat is voter fraud and wants his violent mobs to make sure no "voter fraud" takes place. If he's elected President, I fear that we'll still have elections, but in the way Russia holds elections. "Do you want to vote for Trump or do you want to be sent to prison?"
It's not that simple. Swing states have a divide between cities and rural counties. If you scare enough voters away in cities, those swing states become easier to win. It has nothing to do with the states he will lose, and everything to do with the ones he needs to win.
Problem here is people in cities don't scare easily. If a rural mob of ppl comes rolling through my city policing the polls, its going to cause a huge shitshow but it won't keep anyone from voting. Hell, it might drive turnout among some that were planning on not voting out of apathy. We city folk fight back. Trump sends his brownshirts here, they'll get bloody noses at the very least.
Someone else did it waaaaay earlier, and it didn't end too well for them. The second attempt caused some chaos though. The world still brings it up from time to time, but Republican voters close their eyes to history.
Good thing in Colorado my ballot is sent directly to my mailbox and I can send it out directly from my mailbox. This is done for every citizen no questions asked by default.
Depends on your state's laws. But peaceful dudes in red caps are not what people are worried about. They are groups of aggressive people, potentially visibly armed, near to polling places or mail-in boxes that will scare voters away. If you have to walk past a line of lifted pick-up trucks, all with huge Trump flags in the backed, filled with angry redcaps with assault rifles, you might rethink voting. Which is the goal of the facists.
If you have to walk past a line of lifted pick-up trucks, all with huge Trump flags in the backed, filled with angry redcaps with assault rifles, you might rethink voting. Which is the goal of the facists.
Or it might make me want to vote against their asshole lord and savior even more resolutely than I already do.
I'll be there. And I will be armed as well. If it's a bloodbath that ends in my extinction? So be it. I will not stand for such a scenario as you describe.
Struggling to live with myself after 01/06 as is. Give me a chance to fight back? I'm all in.
look, I know, you find annoying them with pictures of fake grand kids amusing... but really... could you at least maybe make the stories more interesting, since, you know. it's gonna be slow...
It's funny to say that and you, of course, deserve credit.
But this is too serious to ignore. The idea of him getting a second term will be the beginning of something truly awful.
Everyone, please vote. The two party system sucks but it's where we're at right now. The US swinging wide right to embrace a grifter can NOT be the answer.
Edit: I doubt it. These people are pretty stupid. I'm a fat middleclass WASP. I Look like them. They won't bother intimidating me. I'll vote just fine. If I can go in without fear, I will escort my LGBT+ neighbors, black friends, and disabled relatives through those doors to make sure they can vote if they don't vote early.
If they do shoot me? I feel bad for my family, but I don't want to live in a country where I am not able to use the single form of power I have.
You'll feel bad for your family? How? You'd be dead. And now your family is missing a member. That's your ideal outcome in this scenario? Buddy, just use a mail in ballot.
Because he's entirely assured that if the big cities hadn't voted, he would've won literally every state. That's been his assumption since he lost - that the "city liberals" are who was voting against him.
If someone can sit outside Mar-A-Lago and identify who is coming and going, then we need people at polling stations doing the same when Trumplings show up to 'guard' the polls.
No masks. No weapons. Put your ass on the line if you want to follow fascist orders.
We do all our voting on mail in ballots where I live so its actually kind of crazy to think about. Please volunteer for local election work if you have that capacity.
Well, we both know how this ends, with people with guns patrolling up and down polling places with firearms asking a whole bunch of questions, refusing to leave, and only being escorted out by police once the polls close.
Why? Same reason why the police department is suspiciously empty during a klan meeting, the same reason why Bruce Wayne is never in his office during a Batman sighting.
People will be shot at polling places in 2024 because of this.
The chatter in their group chats is already out of control. They want blood and they will have it.
This isn’t just some dipshit spouting off without caring what his words mean. He sees the bloodthirsty calls for violence amongst his supporters, because it’s happening on his channels. This is an intentional, fascistic call for violence from a crowd he knows is willing and ready to do it. People really need to start believing him.
I keep saying this, but if this was 1932 Germany and you knew what you know now, what would you do as a German citizen? That’s not hyperbole. Seriously, please think about it.
I guarantee this, what will happen is people with guns will show up at polling places, they will threaten staff, and they will not be able to get police to get them to leave until it's time for the polls to close. Kind of like how the police just stood there and did nothing when people got into the capital on January 6th, just like how the military was never deployed. The people who are trying to steal power for themselves, are the people who already have power, they just want more
Trump can suck my fucking asshole with a side of my balls, and so can his pissing-in-the-gene-pool followers, then he/they can ram my Dem vote down his/their disappointingly small peehole/s.