Bit of a simple question: Some people on lemmy are still posting stuff from youtube, xitter and the like.
Have you gone full fediverse yet or how far are you?
traded reddit for lemmy/kbin
xitter for mastodon
discord for matrix
youtube for peertube
Obviously I also mean other alternatives. Which ones do you use and why?
Disclaimer: this question is me asking genuinely but also trying to make it fun by arbitrary ranking/escalating it. Not trying to say one is better than the others.
I dumped Twitter in the first wave after Elon took over and found a new home on Mastodon. Deleted my Reddit accounts during the API crisis (I still visit but no longer contribute) and spend some time on Lemmy (haven’t yet found the community to be as engaging). Sadly there isn’t a viable alternative for YouTube yet.
Yeah the scale of infrastructure needed for video hosting at a scale needed for creators to move over is nutso. The creators won’t move without the audience, the audience won’t move without the creators. Only way it could work is if another “megacorp” decided to take on YouTube and incentivised creators to move.
Pretty much only Apple and Microsoft have the funds to pull that off.
Still, there is place for competition, people just need to stop expecting these services to be completely free of charge. When Google 'fees' (data collection and ads) will stop being hidden or easily avoidable other companies will be able to provide similar services for a fair price.
Also stopped using Insta after the fuckers randomly blocked me and demanded access to my ID to release. I’m not giving them my passport just so I can doomscroll.
Reddit was the only service I used. The day my favorite 3rd party app stopped working. I gave them the finger and created a lemmy account and installed Jerboa.
Can recommend Boost for Lemmy. Was a great app for Reddit earlier. They converted their app to Lemmy pretty darn fast. Sync for Lemmy is also good but is subscription based unlike Boost.
Lemmy 95%. I use Reddit for tech troubleshooting help sometimes but that's basically it, and I removed my account.
Never used Twitter. I have a Mastodon account but rarely use it. It's just not a content format that I'm very interested in.
Sadly I use Discord still. Matrix is fine, but nearly all my friends use Discord for gaming and related stuff, so I can't get rid of it without losing basically all my gaming friends and servers.
Still use YT all the time, but only through apps like NewPipe, FreeTube, and GrayJay. I haven't signed into YT for well over a year now.
Slowly but surely I'm getting rid of the corpo's grip on my life.
Congrats! I appreciate every soul we can rip from the corpo claws.
3. There are matrix bridges that can puppet your account. Pretty cool. Though I need to figure out how to use them. Found out this week.
4. Check out peertube. Especially sepiasearch.org. It's not perfect and you need to accept that they dont have an algorithm so you need to sort by newest or be very specific in your search terms. Trying to get them to add sort by likes, watch numbers or comment numbers. Lets see how that goes.
I was solely Reddit before the API debacle, now I'm solely Lemmy. There's not a lot of content here, but here I am.
I tried Mastodon after the Twitter buyout. It has all the downsides of Twitter (short posts, people constantly axe grinding, reply guys) without the upsides (content creators that I want to interact with, humour accounts). I dropped Mastodon after a couple of months.
That's also my problem with Mastodon. Want to use it over Twitter, it's a good form of broadcasting for updates to my interests/followed organizations/products/etc. But nobody's there... 🤷♂️
Never felt the need for microblogging when Reddit existed, and chats are a mess and I will never understand the appeal unless I spent 24 hours there. So now it's Lemmy all the way... except for YouTube, of course, because that one is simply too hard to avoid, although I do mostly use Piped mirrors.
I sadly agree on youtube. I love watching gameranx to fall asleep to. Trying to get into peertube though. Still very early, no app, search is bad imo but the idea is great.
I hate yt for a while now and avoid it. The grimaces they make in the teasers and the sensationalism displayed in the recommendations deter me. It seems to be tailored for infants and insanely stupid people. It feels like a constant stream of insults: "We assume you're a caveman. Why don't you watch this person with wide open mouth and eyes do something utterly ridiculous and useless to promote a product? ... or maybe some manipulative conspiracy theories dressed up as educational entertainment that are intended to make you hate and blame the proper minorities?" No ty yt. Stop beeing creepy.
I dont think ill ever stop youtube. It has an extremely toxic side, the side where content creators are doing it for a job. I don't go there. I watch, and post videos that are purely out of a love of sharing. That is the blessed side of youtube. And Ill berelentless in blocking ads and paying for adblockers if nessecary.
I never used extwitter.
I only use instagram to share my photography with my family, and to chat with my younger cousins.
Never really got into discord.
And Reddit I still sometimes lurk, but only on PC, and rarely comment anymore.
Now lemmy via Jerboa is my best friend.
Ive also had so much more social interaction offline in the last 12 months its been a complete turnaround for me.
If YouTube finally takes away subscriptions then I'm gone from YouTube. I am one of the few people I guess that just logs in every day watches almost all my subs vids and then leaves. None of the algoithmic shenanigans directly effect me and I don't think YouTube stands a chance of winning the adblockers stuff. Other than that it's hard to imagine leaving, even if everyone jumped ship the archive of YouTube alone is so huge.
Do have mastodon but never use it just like I used to have Twitter and never use it. I might just not understand how people use those services as after I set them up they are just a cluttered feeling version of my rss feeds.
Pixelfed is neat but I haven't used Instagram since it first came out so I don't know how they compare.
I've never liked, subscribed or commented that I know of to a YouTube video but I have learned to fix lots of things. Have not tried peertube.
I agree. More people should use fedi apps in general. But same as corpo media employs people for marketing. The fediverse needs open source marketing so to speak. We cant assume it will work on its own.
I never used it, so I had no reason to make a switch. I also did make a mastodon account once, but I don't know what happened to it and I can't find it.
I only ever use it for updates for a few games. Also, I can't ditch it because the club I'm in at my community college, the club discord server is how we communicate and there's probably no way I could convince the club to switch since the next year, various members might have gotten their degree or left the club for various reasons.
If my favorite channels switched over to something like Peertube or even some place like Odysee, then I'd definitely switch. Most of the people I watch would never leave and I just don't feel like putting in the effort to find new people to watch since I've been watching some of my favorites for over a decade.
The youtube thing is unfortunately the hard truth imo as well.
But I have good news on discord: matrix has bridges for all messaging apps that you can use to puppeteer your accounts. You only use matrix and talk to all your friends no matter the platform. I‘m only getting into it but its awesome. Some instances like tchncs.de already have bridges for you to use.
Good luck with your journey. :) feel free to hit me up on matrix if you visit. @haui:matrix.giftedmc.com
Yes for Lemmy and Mastodon. YouTube has too much good content to skip, I feel like sites that can only rely on advertising to be profitable such as video hosting and search are going to be the hardest things to make fair.
I agree. Youtube is very good content wise and peertube still needs work but I dont think ads are the solution. Imo, some kind of small donation would work. Needs more thought though.
A small donation like YouTube premium? I honestly can't blame YouTube too much for their monetization strategies. Hosting video is terribly expensive, so some form of compensation will always be required, whether it's via ads or subscription.
Is Matrix even close to be as good? I want to do the switch, but there's no way I convince any of my friends, if it's not at least a little better at something.
I use matrix exclusively since a month ago. Works pretty much the same, not ad polished but you can bridge nearly anything to matrix. Whatsapp, Discord, Telegram, Signal etc. i highly suggest you check it out.
Is it possible for me if, let's say, I bridged Messenger, WhatsApp and Discord into Matrix, that I could write to anyone from that app only via bridges?
I’ve been using Matrix for the last few months, via Element which supports some newer feature like video and voice calls, and it’s been great. My only complaint is that their Video Rooms feature is kinda flaky with video, which is weird given that one-on-one video calls are rock-solid. Voice-only in a Video Room is reliable tho. Video Rooms are still an experimental feature that you have to enable in your settings.
I’ve seen a couple of Discord servers that use a Matrix Bridge to sync up Discord chats with Matrix Spaces. The only downside to that is that bridges and bots don’t support E2EE, which if you’re bridging to Discord, isn’t much of a downside anyway.
Matrix is great but in very much Work In Progress state.
Many things are rewritten or not complete because of the low budget Matrix foundation has for all their ambitions.
I use it everyday, mostly without problems, but sometimes there is an error and my app cannot decrypt a message, sometimes calls do not ring...
It seems like the best base for universal chat, but I don't know if showing it to my friends and family instead of waiting a year or two more was a good choice.
Lemmy definitely replaced reddit as my daily driver. The only time I ever visit reddit anymore is for obscure troubleshooting information that is usually old.
I never really got into twitter. The format just doesn't interest me very much, like others have mentioned. Mastodon definitely seems cool though. I created an account just because.
I've been on discord, but I could probably easily switch that to matrix because I don't have that many friends...
I hope that something like peertube will take off, but I'm not really on that one. For now, I've resigned to using alternative frontends (newpipe, freetube, etc.). I'm trying to give odysee a fair chance, but the content just isn't quite there yet for me.
The most extreme things that I want to switch out is google, and microsoft. I'm basically going to have to swap operating systems on my phone, as well as my laptop. That pales in comparison to my vehicle though. Lately the idea has been floating around in my head to downgrade my vehicle to something that was before android auto/ apple carplay. Vehicle manufactures have made it impossible to opt out of anything. I hate this so much.
If you do, could you post a link to it? I'd enjoy watching something like that.
Something else that I think would be nice to see is just some of your everyday typical usecases with mint. Anything you might have run into that gave you trouble, etc.
I don't use anything else, except NewPipe for YouTube. Sometimes I use a Revanced YouTube app without an account, I periodically delete its data and start over again, but no Facebook, xitter, etc. Only true exception is WhatsApp.
Very relatable. Whatsapp is very baked into our lives here as well. There is a solution though. Matrix has bridges for most of the IMs out there. You only use matrix and can chat with most others like discord, whatsapp, signal, telegram etc.
Is it hard to setup? Because it sounds too good to be easy. It doesn't matter a lot to me, on the contrary, I'm interested in a a setup that centralizes all of my IM apps, and I'm willing to invest efforts to make it happen.
I've gone full Lemmy and Mastodon. I'm not going to pretend like Peertube is ever going to be a serious contender. None of my friends are on matrix sadly, so will probably be stuck on sms/discord for a long time.
Two things: peertube is not doing illegal stuff which is how youtube got successful so obviously, people are gonna want to do the right thing if anyone is to have a chance against corpo media. Second, there are matrix bridges for (nearly?) all other platforms (discord, whatsapp, telegram, signal, fbmessenger, etc).
Wasn't on Twitter really (I've had various accounts over the years but they never stuck), couldn't see the point of it. Got two active Mastodon accounts though and I'm all over it like a rash.
Nah Discord is still perfectly fine for the way I use it
Uploading my stuff to both. But PT really need to acknowledge the major discovery problems before it can get anywhere, and at the moment they don't even seem to accept that their instance search tool (ie the first thing most people will need) is broken, so I don't have high hopes.
there are puppeting bridges for matrix->discord. Just saying :)
I just raised that issue a couple moments ago in their gitlab. Might even start working on it if I can understand it. Let's see. Because I see the potential and want it to succeed.
Haha, yes I know, this entire thread is just an opportunity for you to tell people about Matrix Discord bridges! But I've personally got no use for it yet. And that's ok 😉
Glad someone might be in a position to help with the PT stuff. I can't help with the actual codebase but have been pulling together feature requests and bug reports as well as doing a lot of tech support for new users so we all do our part where we can. Teamwork!
The whole point of XMPP or Matrix is to provide interoperability between IM services. For interoperability to exist, we must agree on standards. Matrix is not a standard, but essentially a product controlled entirely by NewVector, a venture capital funded start-up.
They are not profitable and increasingly desperate to make money. Recently they forked Element and Synapse and make contributors sign a CLA which enables them to change their software to a non-free license in the future for monetization: https://drewdevault.com/2018/10/05/Dont-sign-a-CLA.html
You might say "But they made a non-profit foundation for Matrix" which is kind of true, but not really. The "core spec team" is all people working for NewVector except a single guy. Go checkout their linked GitHub profiles.
The whole Matrix thing should build on the existing XMPP internet standard. Instead we got yet another incompatible IM protocol, effectively controlled by a single corporation and more fragmentation. Bridges don't help as they break almost all features, most regrettably end-to-end encryption. We really need proper internet standards for interoperability.
XMPP is also more lightweight and has proper native clients for all platforms instead of Electron apps. On the server side the difference is even more severe.
I moved to Lemmy during the Reddit API debacle, and it’s been great. I’ve even started interacting with posts which I almost never did on Reddit.
I moved from xitter to Mastodon, but I don’t really use either anymore; it’s just not a form of social media that brings me joy.
I asked several of my friends to try out Matrix, and they tolerate it and message me there instead of Discord. I do a lot of video calls with my girlfriend through Matrix (via Element) and that’s been perfectly reliable. Matrix has actually worked better than Discord for me, since I use Linux (Arch btw) and my webcam frequently has green flashes in Discord but not on Matrix. I had that issue on Fedora as well so I think it’s a Discord for Linux problem.
Can very much relate. I also moved due to the api debacle. But I kept on reddit a bit longer since I am head mod in a subreddit which I‘m not abandoning. Slowly easing off. Otherwise reddit is dead to me.
You can bridge nearly all other services to matrix. That way youre not dependent on others switching for you.
I suggest you try out peertube. Its a little rough but its gonna get there.
With the exception of YouTube, I have left all platforms completely. I would leave YouTube too, if there are good tutorial-style web-dev content creators on PeerTube. Also, PeerTube needs a good app. Also, PeerTube instance search sucks, in my opinion. Haven't tried Sepia Search, maybe that is good.
No, sepia search sucks a lot in my opinion. We need to work on that. But if you have web dev experience, feel free to help with that. :) and you‘re totally correct with the app as well.
I mean, I could, but right now I have decided to not contribute for some time. I hate one-sided contribution and I only want support open-source communities that give back to their devs. This isn't about money. I worked for GitLab as a contributor starting from last September. This was around the same time I graduated, but I did not get any campus placement, and I was confused about what I should be doing, given that there was a bad recession affecting my country. But I did not get anything of value back in return for all the code I wrote - and by return, I mean something like a job referral, mentorship or good connection.
I felt like I got a bunch of corporate gratitude nonsense, who were able to spend less on hiring devs, because they were able to find similar idiots like me, and that did has not helped me from my current situation of joblessness and poor mental health. This is why I stopped working on their code around July. Closed my half-complete MRs and all the assigned issues I had, moved away from the platform gradually at the start of November, because that experience left a bad taste in my mouth.
I'm in Lemmy and Mastodon. I left Twitter for good about a week after the Tesla guy acquired it and made his first flex on the app. I don't even remember what it was, but I didn't want to be a part of his toy, and all he has done is prove me right over and over. I left Reddit within a couple days of the announcement that mobile app developers were getting screwed, and I'd essentially have to switch to the native app to use a full-featured Reddit. It seemed like a crappy thing to do since developers like LJ Dawson (Sync), the Relay person, etc are who really built Reddit since Reddit was slow to get into apps.
I use Discord but only because it's what's required for a gaming guild, and my dynasty fantasy baseball league uses it too. I have no interest in using it outside of that.
I've never really used Youtube, so I haven't checked out Peertube. Likewise, I never really used Insta, so I haven't looked that closely at Pixelfed. I'm considering Pixelfed since I'm a hobby photographer, but I share my pics on my personal website (I don't care who sees them tbh, it's fun for me) and on my FB. I can't seem to shed FB with so many people I know using that to stay in touch and schedule events, and the Marketplace is leagues better than Craigslist.
But facebook, of all things? Its like not eating chocolate because its bad for your health but getting your occasional heroin fix. No offense.
Still, its your decision and i wont judge since I don’t know your friends and peers and dont know if you‘d be able to convince them to move away from corpo claws.
This was step 1 for me, and it happened at the first rumbling of Musk taking over, though I don't use Mastodon.
traded reddit for lemmy/kbin
This was step 2. I was using reddit and lemmy side by side, though mostly ignoring reddit, until the API change came through. I deleted my reddit account then and haven't looked back.
ActivityPub (read: Fediverse, Mastodon, PeerTube, etc.) is a way for social media site you use to ask other social media site what posts there are for another profile and proof you like or comment it. Something like two-way RSS feed.
SMTP (Email), XMPP and others are working soft of a way that you request from your email/chat provider to send a message to username@server
Matrix is also a different thing. It create a data structures called rooms that are spread across many servers, that those servers synchronize between each other pulling and pushing latest changes and then your client (app) is synchronizing latest messages with the server.
Thanks for explaining. Big upside to matrix is that you can bridge nearly all other services so you have one app instead of discord, whatsapp, imessage, etc
I still use Reddit, mostly for the memes, but generally, rarely, like once every few days, while I visit Lemmy daily (a few times a day). The 2nd and 3rd I don't use at all, the fourth, no. Mainly because I have to go out of my way just to share a video, and that kinda annoys me.
Well, I have the YT app and ReVanced on this phone, don't know if there is a pipe version of the app. If there is, I'd gladly use it instead of ReVanced.
Perfectly reasonable. You really don't need to know anything about matrix except its the better version of discord, whatsapp, telegram, imessage, fb-messenger, signal, etc. It also can have puppeting for the other services. So you use matrix and can talk to your whatsapp friends if you like. The best clients I've used so far are element.io and fluffychat. Check them out if you want.
Peertube is a great thing and has some decent content. You need to be very particular with your search terms on sepiasearch.com though since the discoverability lacks still.
i'm almost full fedi, even left instagram. it's just discord and youtube that are gonna be hardest to replace for me. been looking at peertube for uploading video game streams but the upload limit...
Good for you! :) I completely left discord, especially since matrix has bridges for it. You can puppet your discord account through matrix.
Youtube is hard for me as well. Peertube does not always have an upload limit I think. Either make or find an instance without it. Might need to pay a bit because space aint for free. I don’t appreciate the discoverability and lack of an app atm. Not good enough of a coder to poop one out though. Must he possible to wrap a firefox or chrome instance in window, right?
I purged my Reddit account 4(?) months ago, and I'd been off it for a few months before that.
I've been using Mastodon, and the gotosocial, for about a year and a half. I never really used Twitter, though, and since the Great Reddit Exodus, I use Lemmy more. I've never found microblogging to have much value.
Why would anyone go from Matrix to Dicord? Did you swap the order here?
I haven't stopped using YouTube. There's no equivalent content on Peertube. Yet
Shit, man, if I went full fedi, I'd have even less to contribute than I already do. We've gotta have some external sources of news and knowledge.
I have traded reddit for lemmy and just closed my Meta and Xitter accounts and I'm already feeling a disconnect from society. I've been subscribing to new youtube channels and setting up RSS feeds to make up for the lack of connection to current events.
Remember that you can bridge matrix with discord, whatsapp, telegram, signal and others to unify your communication on IM/Chat
Otherwise, you could try mastodon. Its cool if you liked old twitter. I do kinda but lemmy is more my cup of tea. Also, feel free to contribute. We need people who bring relevant news to non corpo land.
Yes, thank you. I saw you mention bridging matrix to other services in another comment. I'm definitely intrigued and will investigate that. As for Mastodon, I've been wanting to find the time to spin up my own server for that one. I'll definitely be getting deeper into the fediverse, but I also need outside sources of news, preferably not curated by antagonistic algorithms like Facebook.
Yea I'm looking forward to being on Lemmy. MySpace went down due to Facebook growing. I think we accomplish the same thing and the fediverse thing too.
A bit meta, but Is there a unified article anyone can point me to that discusses all the different fediverse video options (IIRC peertube is not the only one) with a overview of how their usage differs from youtube?
I've found peertube to be interesting ever since it was new, but have had very little luck finding anything I wanted on it when I've tried using it.
Yes, same problem here. Peertube is not really there yet but I sadly have no knowledge of peertube alternatives so far. One is crypto which I find kinda useless. Other than that no idea.
Reddit -> Lemmy, with the caveat that time spent on here is minimal, to be reviewed at a later date.
xitter -> nothing, nitter.net if I want to read a xeet linked by another resource. Ultimately for me micro blogging social media is a time suck with little return.
discord -> still on it for a few different reasons, not sure if I'll set up matrix just to do a bridge, privacy and minimalism are clashing here.
YouTube -> nothing, invidious if I want to watch yt content. Short or low quality video content is another time suck, try and keep video streaming to a minimum for environmental and mental health reasons.
Netflix and others -> the high seas (it is decentralised)
The high seas definitely are a legit strategy in my book.
The discord bridge of matrix is insanely good and I dont see a problem with using discord or just bridging to it. In opposition i think bridging is a lot safer since you‘re not running the site in your browser but in a containerized app which otherwise has no cookies etc.
Already using libre wolf with containers so not sure how much of a benefit I'd get from moving to an app.
Again back to minimalism I'd rather move away from it completely than have to have a another service to continue using discord. Could change if I start using matrix.
Most of them! I'm struggling to understand peertube but maybe I'll get it eventually. In the meantime I'm still on YouTube but I've fediversed all the others 🎉
Thats awesome! Peertube is an odd one but has character. The biggest issue imo is that you cant sort on sepiasearch.org with likes, views and comments.
Yeah I don't even know what that means 🤣 I'm really slow to understand something new technologically speaking, but once I've got it I feel confident. I'm totally comfortable with Lemmy and Bookwyrm now for example!
I've migrated to almost all foss services. I'm only sharing from non free services if i can't avoid. I'm using this username in each and every services
1,2,3 yes
Its hard to avoid youtube as most of my favourite youtubers wont migrate or even they don't know about foss platforms. They want their ad revenue. Its hard to convience them and hard for them to move
My Fediverse accounts:
Mastodon not Twitter
Lemmy not Reddit
Friendica not Facebook
Peertube not Youtube:
Funkwhale not spotify:
Bookwyrm not Goodreads
Writefreely not blogger:
Lichess not chess.com:
Matrix not discord:
https://matrix.to/#/@covert_czar:matrix.org
I'm also on pixelfed (not instagram)
Sure i do use proprietory softwares and nonfree services. I do consider them as useful as foss softwares. I just explored most of the fedi universe doesn't mean i hate non-free services.
I'm more active on mastodon, pixelfed, lemmy, matrix and lichess
Ah! The sharkfucker again! We two should link on matrix since we always bump into one another. :) seems like we frequent similar communities. Feel free to add me @haui:matrix.giftedmc.com
And you could use a discord bridge as well. It takes over your discord account and poses as you and you can have all your chats as matrix rooms and places. Pretty insane. I learned that this week.
mostly post on Lemmy now. So check reddit occasionally as there are a few things there I have need/interest in. I rarely post there now. It's mostly because of their utterly unusable official app - if they allowed third party apps (and my choice of third party app) I'd have been willing to pay to use (I'm not looking for a free ride).
I'm split between Mastodon, BlueSky, Threads and occasional Twitter. There are people I still interact with on each. I am not a fan of Meta, but unfortunately they seem to be winning. Mastodon is very, very clunky though it has good points. I am seeing an increasing number of big name posters expressing frustration with the platform as there is no good mechanism to ward off spam and abuse at scale - this makes sense (though I certainly am not such a person).
What's Matrix? I use Discord only because I have to as it's the only place for support/community for certain tools I use. I hate it. I wish orgs would use old school web page support forae like they used to. Vastly better...
YT premium. Gotta follow the content. I don't mind paying to rid myself of ad interruption, and what's more, it makes it functional for my kids (sans ads). Besides, YouTube Music is pretty good (not nearly as good as Google Play Music was, though).
I think as things scale people may start to appreciate just how hard it is to moderate content to a useful degree. Not too much. Not too little. (I'm not suggesting that any of the main sites has really gotten it right, but when it's gone (at scale) things go bad fast (RIP Twitter).
I hope for better interoperability between platform (fedi) but it's likely a pipe dream.
A communication protocol with main focus on chat applications.
Sort of a specified and documented way how apps communicate with servers and server with each other.
In other words: A network on which you can chat with app of your choice on server of your choice.
In other words: Fediverse, but for real-time synchronized things.
matrix is a protocol for messaging. People use it as replacement for discord, whatsapp, signal. Self hostable, your data stays in one place and you can bridge nearly every other app to it. So instead of 5 IM apps you have one (element or fluffychat if I have to guess).
the fediverse and interoperability are great. Its the UI that needs work in most cases as it is very early. Beta stages at best. Something a user would never see usually. Keep that in mind.
I realize I'm a bit strange when it comes to social media, but have never signed up for twitter, discord, youtube, facebook, instagram, or anything else like that. I had a reddit account, but bailed as soon as I heard about kbin. So yeah, I gues that makes me a full fedi.
Same, I've watched everything from MySpace to Twitter come and go without ever participating. I would browse reddit and did comment on the small subs for my hobbies in the early days.
I feel like the internet is collapsing, in 2-5 years things are going to be so different. I'm here to shit post and cry until it ends. It's was fun while it lasted.
Sounds like a discord bridge with puppeting would be cool for you. :) you can use a matrix server that can also post to your discord contacts. Pretty awesome.
I have. I still use the other ones occasionally for specific topics that don't get much attention in the fediverse yet (e.g. ufos -- I know, I know...), but overall, my main platforms are the fediverse, not the corporate ones.
Congrats! I‘m trying my best to stay off of corpo media but a lot of kinks still need ironing out. Trying to help get peertube to a point where it competes better (since I feel like its very close).
I already had issues with Reddit long before the API drama, due to spam, etc. However when the API drama dropped, I almost 100% switched to kbin, save for the rare occasion I found some useful info on Reddit, with the occasional tumbling into some other interesting threads.
I post more often to Mastodon, slowly leaving Twitter too, I just need to convince my fellow authors to do so, to give me even less reason to use it. I however decided to limit posting updates of my game engine to Twitter, and instead use the main account now dedicated for it ( @PixelPerfectEngine )
I haven't heard of Matrix, I'll look up it. I don't have any major gripes with Discord so far.
Peertube is fine and dandy, however it's even less adapted than other Fediverse platforms, all while YouTube would be mostly fine IF IT DIDN'T ACTIVELY TRIED TO SABOTAGE MY FIREFOX! I EVEN PAY FOR PREMIUM AND MEMBERSHIPS!
I don't really use any other save for following a bunch of Misskey accounts with my Mastodon. However, I was thinking on creating a federated game launcher/gaming-focused social network similar to Steam. Some parts of it would use ActivityPub (especially public stuff like achievements), others XMPP or something similar. Issues are the question of a copy protection system, and an anti-cheat system. Banning pirated copies of the game from official networks is probably easy even with open source tools, and likely not so controversial. Anything more than that would require more complicated setups, such as a lot of proprietary stuff, not to mention are very controversial, especially with gamers. Anti-cheat systems are also a though issue, likely being the responsibility of the developer, and also there' a lot of controversy with them with kernel-level anti-cheat systems.
Sounds awesome! I would instantly sign up for a federated steam! let me know if you go forward. Would even donate.
On the other hand: youtube is evil. Maybe help framasoft with peertube if you're a dev anyway? Their idea is great. the discoverability is trash though.
If you check matrix, feel free to add me @haui:matrix.giftedmc.com
1: I'm running a kbin instance so. Yeah, think I've covered that.
2: Never had a twitter account. I used to check news from some companies that announce stuff there. But you can't even do that without an account now, so I don't visit them aside from if people send me direct links to stuff.
3: Yes and no. I'm using both, mainly because I don't control where everyone else goes.
4: I did (well still do) have a peertube instance up, I've just not moved it to the new server yet and not decided if I will. The problem is, storage. For threadiverse (kbin in my case) the space used is easily containable, the media goes onto S3 and I can surf the best combination of speed/price for that and the DB actually grows at a pretty controllable rate. But peertube takes a LOT of space quickly. I suspect it's a bit harder to have the kind of freedom to post long videos, also livestreaming. I tried 1440p and the server (which is decently specced) couldn't keep up. So, this might be a failed experiment for me I think.
Can relate to 4. the space required is hefty if you dont only host your own videos (which is what I do). I‘m considering making paid peertube accounts available so that people can host at my space but dont get greedy with my space.
you can still use matrix with a bridge. I dont use discord at all but I have a discord server running that is completely bridges.
Yes, ultimately it's the way peertube will likely be if we want reliable servers that stick around. Paid for accounts for those that want to upload. The way I figured it was both a server with 1-2TB of space on a server and/or 1-2TB of S3 space is the kind of money I can forget about. But much more than that, and I can't afford to be hosting other people's stuff like that for free.
I can relate. The constant amount of bugs is what makes using unpolished stuff a challenge. But it’s kind of the same thing if you‘re living in a democracy. Being in an authoritarian regime allows for more streamlined visuals (dubai) but also leads to ethnic cleansing and other transgressions.
Yes for all except youtube. I use frontends there. LBRY when feasible and there's not a lot of content creators on PeerTube at least we got "The Linux Experiment". PeerTube needs a monetization model imo (benefiting content creators and instance hosters). I wouldn't mind paying a low fee for watching content for instance.
What we need is more people discussing peertube and things like monetization. It has promise (and there are creators on there) but the discoverability sucks. You‘re correct, it needs a lot of work.
I‘m really happy that there are bots now that post youtube alternative links like piped. I would love to have something similar happen with peertube at some point. „This channel is on peertube, go a nd watch it there“.
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Youtube: I don't spend a lot of time watching videos, but when I do it's still usually on Youtube, as I can't find what I like anywhere else. I don't expect to be able to completely ditch this one unless the cost of hosting videos goes down a lot.
Facebook: It's been a few months since I used this one. The only thing I use it for is to send someone a message if I don't have any contact information aside from their name, which is something the fediverse can't currently replicate. It's slowly becoming less relevant as fewer and fewer people in my cohort are active on Facebook.
Twitter: I used this one for less than a year in 2021, and deleted my account in 2022.
Instagram: I made an account on this one a few years ago but never made posts with it, and evetually deleted my account. I don't use #Pixelfed , because I can post pictures from #Sharkey so I don't see a reason to make another account.
Reddit: I deleted my account recently. I haven't made a #Lemmy or #KBin account though obviously I can still interact with them from #Sharkey.
Discord: This is the proprietary social network I use the most. There are a lot of communities that don't seem to have alternatives elsewhere. I am hopeful for the future of #Matrix , but it still feels like a beta, and I can't recommend it to people without technical skills.
Tiktok: I haven't used this in a few years, but I haven't deleted my account either.
Pinterest: I haven't used this in a few years, but I haven't deleted my account either. I'm also not sure what the fediverse alternative is.
Zoom: I have to use this for work. I'm hopeful matrix video calls will eventually be a viable replacement.
Fandom: I have stopped making constructive edits, but I kept my account in case I can use it to vandalize wikis or help them leave Fandom. There is no fediverse alternative I'm aware of: just a bunch of self-hosted wikis that can't interact with each other.
Uninstalled X, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit apps; installed Boost for Lemmy, Mastodon. Would be cool to try Matrix instead of Discord if the experience is the same. But my friends wouldn't switch based on ideology. 😑
Two things: the experience wont be the exact same because matrix is not a discord clone. It will be a mix of whatsapp, discord, fb messenger and imessage because its a drop in replacement for all of those.
Your friends dont need to switch. You can bridge all these services to matrix and have it all in one app. Thats the fun.
never used reddit, but i like my kbin alt acc very much
xitter never really was my thing, neither masto or pleroma > but when xitter migration sped up last year, i thought that finally something is happening on the fedi, so i signed up at a calckey instance (and later, i got many more accs on other fedi platforms)
discord? no > matrix? no
yt: i use alternative frontends, but certainly not peertube
Understandable. Though peertube is a cool platform if you are lucky with searching. Something I hope they will fix soon. I might help with that if I can understand what their search engine does.
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in general, i hope that federation issues between all the different fedi platforms will be solved to some extent - e.g. interactions between lemmy and the *keys (misskey plus the whole set of forks) are practically non-existent > our conversation is an exception
I am yet to find one that for anything I actually use.
If I would want to make a full time switch there’s need to be a user base large enough to support niche interests without seeing a sad little 2 subscribers in 4 versions of the same thing all on a different instance. None active.
Don’t get me wrong, I use them. But it’s not exclusive.