Americans asked to describe the Democrat in the White House and the Republican best positioned to face him in next year’s election say President Joe Biden is “old” and “confused” and say former President Donald Trump is “corrupt” and “dishonest.”
Trump would be a traitor AND the oldest elected president ever.*
Biden was the oldest president ever elected. Trump is 3 years younger than Biden. If Trump theoretically wins, he'd be the oldest elected president ever beating Biden by a year.
Thank God he will be in prison. I just hope a judge finally revokes his bond after making jokes about fleeing to Russia to get pegged by Putin.
Until Biden puts fucking Goya beans on the resolute desk and does a smug photo op - and still get people to support him - I don’t give a fuck about “BoTh SiDeS” argument.
Republicans have lost all moral ground for calling both-sidism.
You're basically right; They're actually smart, but not in a nice way and not that smart. First past the post voting essentially guarantees this dynamic; duopoly a la Good Cop Bad Cop.
They know they can skate by on that, but they're not afraid enough of the fact that the insurrection has not ended, and will only escalate. Their Bad Cop isn't a method actor, but an actual bad cop who already has a drop piece with their name on it.
Fascism has never yet been defeated without an actual fight. This time isn't different.
The only reason why I have a hard time believing that's true is that he barely won last time and he's burnt a lot of bridges since then, not to mention killed a lot of his constituency with COVID.
Not saying you're wrong I just can't wrap my brain around it.
What you're missing is that many people will have that same attitude, and use it as an excuse not to vote. We aren't as motivated because he's not in office, so we need to remember what will happen if he gets back in.
And yet, Trump got even more votes the second time around, even after spending a literal year of his presidency golfing and tanking the economy by making COVID a partisan issue.
Trump represents the strong undercurrent of white grievance mixed with class warfare and religious faux-persecution that forms the basis of American fascism, and it's gaining traction.
While there is an advantage among older Voters to Vote for whomever has an R next to their name, it is no where as pronounced as you are led to believe.
Age and generation
The aging U.S. electorate: A majority of Republican voters - and half of Democrats - are 50 and older
The U.S. electorate is aging: 52% of registered voters are ages 50 and older, up from 41% in 1996. This shift has occurred in both partisan coalitions. More than half of Republican and GOP-leaning voters (56%) are ages 50 and older, up from 39% in 1996. And among Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters, half are 50 and older, up from 41% in 1996.
Another way to consider the aging of the electorate is to look at median age. The median age among all registered voters increased from 44 in 1996 to 50 in 2019. It rose from 43 to 52 among Republican registered voters and from 45 to 49 among Democratic registered voters.
Aren't Gen Z boys largely voting R? I don't think it works quite like you are suggesting. That presumes the party will just die out, but that's been predicted since like the 1980s and that just hasn't happened.
The best and most accomplished Transportation secretary in U.S. History and you call him incompetent? Interesting take, can you name any former Transportation secretary that was even half as good as Pete?
That's way too harsh. Pete is an opportunist, and opts for politics over principle to a degree that made me dislike him in the last primary... but he's not incompetent.
I wonder if Biden's age helps him to some extent, since if that's the only bad thing you can think of while the other guy is "corrupt" that doesn't seem so bad to me. If he wasn't old maybe you'd see the "typical politician" criticisms like "phony" or something.
Biden's age isn't just a number. The guy really acts very, very old.
Even when he gave the speech in response to the court striking down student loans, when he was all fired up, and announcing some pretty powerful policies... even then he just seemed so sleepy and low energy.
Trump, for all his many, many, many, many disqualifying flaws, still seems feisty and energetic in comparison.
That said, Bernie Sanders is even older, but I'd vote for him even if he were on his deathbed. Bernie Sanders' corpse would do a better job representing the people than would any Republican, and 90 percent of Democrats.
I'm not saying it's not a bad thing, but it crowds out some other bad thing that people would feel about him instead.
Sure Trump seems more energetic, he would win in a how-old-do-they-seem competition, but in a who-should-be-president competition I'd rather have someone slow in his competence vs energetic in his corruption.
Probably the next-worst thing wouldn't be that Biden's corrupt but conceivably it could be worse than just being old.
What I mainly see is that Biden really acts very, very wise. Nobody else could do nearly as good of a job as Biden on a whole range of issues: Covid, Ukraine, jobs, ending inflation without a recession, student debt relief, etc etc etc. I can remember 4 different Democratic presidents and Biden has done the best job of all of them.
I'd love a younger Bernie style guy to run, but he's one of a kind.
Many of the younger progressives don't seem to have the conviction and/or authenticity it seems, though it could also be due to everyone being afraid too to run against an incumbent.
It's really depressing to think there's no good options, and we're just voting for least awful.
Worst thing about Biden is nothing significant will change. Which pales in comparison to the best thing about every single Republican in the Election. Regardless of the Election always being between a douche and a shit show, at least the douche is trying to clean something.
Unflattering portraits of Biden and Trump emerge clearly in a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, which asked an open-ended question about what comes to mind when people think of them.
Trump, meanwhile, has been indicted in four cases featuring 91 total criminal counts and elicits words such as “corrupt” and “crooked” (named by 15%), along with “bad” and other generally negative comments (11%).
Biden’s age was referenced frequently even among Democrats, 28% of whom mention it — a significantly higher percentage than those who point to the presidency or leadership (11%) or strength and capability (11%).
Rami Marsha, a 58-year-old CEO of a manufacturing company in Agoura Hills, California, is a registered Democrat who voted for Trump in 2016 and for Biden in 2020 — but says he’d likely leave the presidential race portion of his ballot blank if those two square off again in 2024.
Biden’s reelection campaign said the president’s age is not a top motivator for voters, especially compared to the administration’s policy accomplishments or key issues like abortion.
Larry Haith, a 73-year-old Idahoan and retired president and general manager of an auto parts firm, is a Republican who described Biden for the poll as an “idiot” and called Trump “arrogant.” He said he doesn’t plan on voting for either next year.
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well better to go with the young guy trump. sic. no serious whats with describing biden as old and trump as corrupt. Sure trump is corrupt but he is only like 2 and change years younger than biden,
I'm hoping for a third party I can vote for. As a 'right wing', 'liberal', and whatever other labels you want to put on me... the R's stated values most closely match what I want in general, but i've votes mostly thrid party for decades now as few I can trust to vote my values are running. The third party I vote for is of course wackos I wouldn't want to win, but they won't and maybe my vote sends a message.
"the R's stated values most closely match what I want in general"
I mean, that's all I really know, knowing what the R's stated values are, to tell that you are not a person I ever want to associate with. Because their stated values are monstrous.
Why would you bother voting for either? No one will know unless you tell them and it will change absolutely nothing.
Libertarians have a proven track record of never winning anything and Greens don't even run in down ballot races but expect to win nationally. Not even in terms of their ideology, they're useless.
Im not voting for the guy that banned collective bargaining. Mr longest stretch of no minimum wage increase in US history. But also that im not allowed to have health insurance because my wages are too low.
My life has only worsened under him as all the prices around me skyrocket while my paycheck stays the same.
Are you referring to the train workers? Whom he got the exact bargain they wanted a month or two later?
The federal minimum wage requires an amendment from Congress. Not sure what that has to do with him?
Biden is the one who got a bunch of health care and medicaid expansions done over the past 3 years. Are you complaining about the multiple states revoking those expansions a couple months ago? Because, yes, that's bullshit, but it is the exact opposite of what Biden has been doing.
He did not get their exact bargain because they werent allowed to bargain. They got less than what they couldve, later than if they were allowed to strike, and all future negotiations are poisoned by the precedent of not being allowed to strike. What fucking leverage do they have then?
The president can introduce and promote legislation, and its been involved in previous wage increases. Hes been silent of course.
Not months ago, many years ago, a hole of millions of uninsured Americans Biden promised to address. And its been nothing.
didnt mention price gouging. If my wages were higher, I'd qualify for subsidies. But if you're wages are too low, like mine, you get nothin. You gotta pay full price for private insurance for being too poor. It's a bug with the ACA Biden promised to fix but...I dont think he's even mentioned it since. Or you know, raise the minimum wage like all the other dem presidents.