The Day Will Come When The First Exodus Will Look Like Child's Play

The Sync app is great, only thing that bothered me compared to Reddit was that I would see again and again posts I've seen in the day when reopening the app later in the day, haven't tried anyting else yet

Yeah this is the real issue. Reddit's mass of niche communities, easy way to find them, and mod tools like matchday bots for sports and others really make reddit more appealing to a general market. I've seen users on Reddit comment on Lemmy and the consensus was "it's a cool alternative but too small" and I kinda agree.

Another massive hurdle is how entwined Reddit has become with Google searches. 9/10 any technical or research prompt I search has a log of Reddit posts with answers. This is no doubt the product of Reddit owners partnering with Google. I imagine it would be a real challenge for the Fediverse to replicate.

Yeah, this site is basically a news aggregator with a side of tech memes. None of the niche communities we used to interact with exist, and no matter how many times someone says “just make them lol” it’s just too small to support a Memphis Grizzlies or a cat mlem or an alt-biking scene

Lemmy, what is the best way to prevent myself from pooping for three days?

To be honest, it's also very easy for a big corporation to take over Lemmy if they really try. They have the money to have fast servers and unlimited traffic and all the promotion, grassroots or otherwise. They don't do it because right now Fediverse is a small collection of opinionated individuals and it's not worth it trying to control it.

Fair

Which 3rd party app?

The average user needs to be spoon fed, choosing between 5+ different apps is confusing and takes mental load etc.

Everything just needs to work, with barely any thought put in (defaults for everything)

And once they're using the platform they can change defaults if they like.

Currently there aren't defaults, or the defaults suck (Eg lemmy.world web UI)

Believe it or not, a lot of people use it on an actual computer.

I mean, the downsides of the Fediverse have been discussed at length.

Here's a routine occurence: i'm browsing around, opening new tabs and such; then i go to upvote something, and it tells me i'm not logged in. This is how i find out i've accidentally left my instance. It's cooked at that point, i'm not going to post that comment, if i really wanted to i'd have to carefully replace the relevant parts of the URL. This keeps happening in both Lemmy and Mastodon.

I need to 1. Not fall out of my instance as easily, and 2. if i've opened a page outside my instance, i need to be able to open the same page in my instance in one click. Anything else is is annoying to me and a complete deal breaker to most new users.

I don't doubt that there's loads of work done in the backend that i don't see, but from my point of view as a user, Lemmy still has the same problems it had when i joined two years ago. That's right, it's been just about two years, the Reddit API debacle was around April-June of 23, and i haven't seen glaring problems adressed.

The web UI is pretty bad IMO. We need to get some serious designers on that.

Try a.lemmy.world

Yea there are just way too many hurdles

I deleted my Instagram a couple weeks ago out of anger and spite when the TikTok ban briefly went into effect. I also uninstalled TikTok and kept it uninstalled even after it was unbanned and really only have Lemmy and YouTube (not shorts). It's been a nice reset for my brain. My deleting Instagram has made a couple friends a bit sad because they liked to send me memes, but we still text so honestly I haven't missed it at all. All that to say, I highly recommend deleting Instagram.

I was in meme withdraw for a bit adjusting to the slower content. I even touched grass that one time.

Same but with piefed. It's the same communities. Love the extended capabilities on both platforms. And fedi integration makes it so anyone can use anything.

And there has been. I also joined Lemmy after the API shutdown and even then there were hardly any new posts, and barely any discussion on them. Now it seems that I have a brand new front page at least once a day and there's plenty of discussion on the posts.

I use Jerboa currently. I was using Relay for reddit and the two aren't really similar, I just switched to it because I saw it recommended the most when I was leaving reddit during the API fiasco. I haven't tried any of the other apps because I'm used to this one now and it gets the job done.

Summit is da bomb

I've used Connect since I came over a year ago. I used Joey back on Reddit.

Any good tips for Android apps?

Sync, I used it for reddit before they fucked the API. And now I use it for Lemmy. It's one of the smoothest apps I've ever used.

interstellar for mbin

Voyager is my go-to.

I see sync recommended too, but I would recommend against that one. I had to buy it for reddit twice because the dev invalidated the license and took away premium features on an upgrade. So I'm not using their shit ever again.

Summit is pretty good, and the dev is very responsive in [email protected]

The 2 specific communities I want to read without a mirroring one in the fediverse I still read through RSS.

Yead is better than using web or their app. And still get my fix.

I use Boost for Lemmy (paid for, so no ads etc.). It's what I used for Reddit, so the transition was super easy, but there's lots of FOSS Lemmy clients on F-Droid that are good too.

I also use Boost as I was using that back on Reddit. Voyager is also an excellent Lemmy app too.

Just do it now, why wait.

Also, don't forget the following:

1. Open All, sort by new, click through upvote and downvote buttons randomly.

2. Sort by hot, open random post, comment something completely wrong and unrelated to the post.

3. Go to explore, pick random subreddit, sort by top year or all time. Pick random post from the first dozen and repost it back into the same subreddit. Not cross-post, just copy whatever title/image/text/link there are without changing a thing. Bonus points for doing this on subreddits for current events and hitting a frontpage

4. Do NOT delete the account. The account age and karma will shield you from anti spam/bot protections in case you ever decide to do it again.

Yeah, ever since Apollo died, I can't go back.

Having Voyager on Android has been a real life saver.

Tbf there is FAR more content there, and also somehow less authoritarianism and echo chamber effect than here - like we have the modlog but they have modmail and the ability for people to continue their already started conversations on posts after removal from the sub, while here (without even a notification sent to the user) we simply have a message like "Rule 1" (which says nothing at all about why a message might have been removed...?).

If we want to attract more users, then like Bluesky, we need to do better at meeting the desires that users actually have, rather than like Mastodon simply complain why nobody wants to come here. PieFed, Mbin, and Sublinks are attempting to do that, so there's hope, but we are still a long ways away yet.

I think, maybe we could meaningfully rebrand Lemmy to Feddit? And change the direction accordingly (away from politics/tankie views, and towards general-purpose, meme content)? Maybe that would be a solid and sound approach to social media.

Do you think it will be to Bluesky?

One day it could be to PieFed, or Sublinks, but everyone banned for Rule 1 from ML knows that it won't be to "Lemmy".

That, and if you need actual information from Reddit rather than just want to find a place to hang out and chat. The people who need certain content must go to wherever that is.

Shit

I can't innocently talk about Nintendo and Luigi without Reddit mods going nuclear.

This is where they want you. Head down to the dock and he’ll show you to the Census Office.

Yeah, it kind of feels like we may only be a few days away from Rexxit 2.0 depending on spez's next move. Musk's comments have been short on this but given the fact spez is already a fanboy and, as Vice Dictator, Musk's merest utterances get taken very seriously in certain quarters, I could see the Xitter ban being overturned.

This struck made my Spidey-Senses tingle when I read it the other day:

Reddit drives significant traffic to X, particularly for discussions related to trending topics on the platform, so a ban on X links on Reddit could significantly impact Musk's company.

Now Musk has favoured ideology over profit but if he can get a bootlicker to improve his bottom line with minimal effort on his part, then he might get spez to harm his own site for Xitter's gain.

It may not happen, but as a Lemmy Instance Admin, it's something I'm keeping a weather eye on and making a few plans.

I'm amazed there were still moderators left that were willing to do protest actions after last time.

Obligatory: fuck u/spez.

That'd be a crazy move. He must know there is an entire wave of new social media emerging thats just poised to punish such a stupid move.

That is exactly what I expect to happen as well

Maybe we need a euphemism... like... uhh.... "the shadow platform" or something? No wait... "the 'emmy"? "the lemony place"?

I kind of always knew believing reddit was some kind of pure platform basically required being a stereotypical Californian but its declined so heavily in the last 10 years.

Its the number of clearly stupid replies you get now that really irritates me, from people who've very clearly not read or understood what you've said. It used to be a place where the average user seemed to be a PHD looking for cat pictures

I wrote that and now I'm imagining being required to take an exam to join a subreddit. Stupid idea but it would probably restore that sort of tone.

Really? Where? Like, can you give a specific example?