I don't like Nazis as much as the next guy, but given a choice between beating up Nazis and getting laid, I think I'd prefer to get laid. Ya know, the whole "Make love not war" philosophy.
You and your date enter said room with a crowbar apiece (I'm bringing a modded spade), and the roomful of fascists gathered there, what, just stand and meekly stare at you both? Get on the ball. Don't let go of the crowbar, but cut everything else loose, citizen. Clock's tickin' and that fuckin' you're here for ain't starting until the room's freshly painted.
In the flesh—or, rather, in the hazard suit. I took the liberty of relieving you of your weapons. Most of them were government property. As for the suit, I think you've earned it.
Better yet? Lose it in your friend's car before they head off on a road trip. That way, all those modern stresses can be miiiiiles away while you focus on your new happy place for a little while.
There seem to be two very different approaches to being anti-nazi - the problem solvers who want to put them down like the vermin they are and move on, and the sociopaths who fantasize about violently acting out all their personal issues, with nazis being socially acceptable targets,
Cults are difficult to handle because the members of a cult are both victims of violence and perpetrators of violence.
The sad hard truth is that we need to see people trapped in far right ideology as potential allies. We need to understand the faulty reasoning and lies that led them down that path and find a way to welcome them back into a world of acceptance and empathy. Personal attacks may feel good but it only entrenches them further.
Ridicule the ideology. Point out the logical fallacies, inconsistencies and lies... Don't let them have a platform to spread hate without opposition or counterarguments. But also understand the people spreading the hate are hurting inside and if they switch sides they can be the best allies to help counter-program others.
I agree. Hate is a byproduct of fear - the favorite tool of manipulators. Ultimately even the manipulators are victims of some kind of fear that motivates their behavior. But first you stop people from hurting others, then if they survive being stopped you can compassionately try to heal them. The attitude difference I was talking about is wanting to stop wrongdoers vs wanting them to suffer.
I'd bring my small box cutter, but I think a crowbar would be more effective. That, and I wouldn't wanna waste a perfectly good box cutter on street trash.
Does the soundproofness allow you to do stealth kills? Cuz otherwise, crowbar or not, you're probably gonna get overtaken by a room full of opponents, unless this is also happening in some sort of kung fu movie.
I believe many people carry with them a deeply buried desire to hurt people, but their morals keep them from doing it to just anyone. But they yearn for a chance to do it without moral repercussions.
You don't get to be the apex predator spread around the whole world without a love for violence ingrained deep inside the species hearts.
So, agree more or less. But also I think the desire can be nuanced, like personally I don't want to just commit random violence but I do wish some folks would get hurt or killed. I think it's like that for most of us.
I believe we are looking at it from different directions. You say people want to enact revenge on bad people, sometimes violently. I say people want to be violent and hope for someone bad to appear, so can do it without moral repercussions.
I know I couldn't do it, and I don't want to either. If I fantasise, it's about using stern words that make them rethink life choices at most. The vilest of people don't deserve to give me trauma from using violence, even without repercussions in heaven or whatever, I really don't think the human psyche is built to perform violence against humans. Maybe animals. With humans I am fully convinced it damages the assailants ability to feel safe and okay, even if the recipient deserved it
Breaking it down, the 'no' comes basically from "Free will doesn't exist so no one can justly be punished and violence just causes pain and a cycle of more violence"
The 'yes' comes from "We're all dead one day anyway and it is intrinsically pleasurable to harm/kill people who have wronged me, my loved ones, or any innocent people. "
The latter is actually a more unethical embrace of pleasure.
On a broader scale though I'm against both the death penalty and revenge/vigilante killing, but I actually think the latter is comparatively less unethical in a vacuum. At least in the case of revenge/vigilante killing someone is getting something out of it.
"The south shall rise again" but like as fat inbred Nazi's is what really confuses me. Like, we nuked Japan, that can easily explain the weird hentai, but the south? They got a black eye then allowed back into the states to start doing Jim crowe shit... Of course we only know the approved history, the constitution was illegally altered during Ww2 and for all we know, had an addition that made what racist and Nazis are doing completely illegal, but since the constitution was changed there's no one to enforce the actual law of the land. An no one in power seems to care