But before they kill you, would they taste good with pasta?
Based on this guy's experience, no.
https://blog.mycology.cornell.edu/2006/11/22/i-survived-the-destroying-angel/
I survived the “Destroying Angel”
I took three home with me. I couldn’t find my Mushroom book, was in a hurry, so I trusted my judgment, fried them up in olive oil, and ate them as a side dish. I should have recognized then that they weren’t inky caps, because inky caps exude a black substance when you fry them.
They honestly did not taste that good, rather bland in my opinion. I thought to myself, “Gee, I don’t think I’ll ever pick and eat these again.” (Little did I know the truth of my thought at the time).
I’m glad that it tries to warn you with its terrible taste
I've tasted Phalloides, it tastes soft and nutty
The ones in the comic don't look like death caps, but those are responsible for 90% of mushroom-related poisonings, so we'll assume artistic license.
Death caps probably would go well with pasta. Here is an article from The Atlantic with someone who has tasted one.
Britt Bunyard, the founder, publisher, and editor in chief of the mycology journal Fungi, has tasted a death cap. “Very pleasant and mushroomy,” he told me. “A nice flavor, and then you spit it out.”
“There’s nothing in the taste that tells you what you are eating is about to kill you.”
It's never occured to me to wonder if deadly poisonous plants taste good. What does nightshade taste like?
Apparently they taste like tomatoes, so they would go well with pasta
I've had a black nightshade berry and I can confirm it tasted like a sweet tomato. I assume the poisonous ones taste similar, if they were bitter then accidental poisonings wouldn't be a big concern.
Why not after? 🤓
So not mushroom for error. 🫤
All mushrooms are edible once.
And you can look at the Sun through a telescope twice in your life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroying_angel
The name destroying angel applies to several similar, closely related species of deadly all-white mushrooms in the genus Amanita.[1] They are Amanita virosa in Europe and A. bisporigera and A. ocreata in eastern and western North America, respectively.[1] Another European species of Amanita referred to as the destroying angel, Amanita verna—also referred to as the "Fool's mushroom"—was first described in France in 1780.[2]
Destroying angels are among the most toxic known mushrooms; both they and the closely related death caps (A. phalloides) contain amatoxins.[1]
https://mushroomexam.com/destroying_angel_mushroom_look_alikes.html
Destroying angel mushrooms (Amanita virosa and Amanita bisporigera) are highly poisonous fungi that are often mistaken for edible species. They are white or pale in color and have a distinctive bulbous base, a ring around the stem, and a volva (a sheath-like structure at the base of the stem). They can resemble other edible mushrooms, such as meadow mushrooms or button mushrooms, which can make them difficult to identify.
I tolerate mushrooms on food from restaurants but I would never just eat one from the wild unless I was extremely desperate, the risk/reward is just insane.
I would never eat one even if I were extremely desperate, unless I had a mushroom identification book with me.
I was you two years ago. Then I took a photo of a strange mushroom and posted it online, only to be told it was a choice lions mane and an incredibly valuable and delicious find. Cue four hours consuming all the resources I could to make sure this thing wouldn't kill me, before eating the tiniest nibble and waiting 24 hours. Yep, it was delicious alright, and because I survived the night, I ate more. I fried it in garlic butter and threw it in soups, I dehydrated it and used it as a thickener. I found more and ate more. Then I learned about chicken of the woods - very distinct with no dangerous lookalikes. Another delicious experience. And so I bought some books. And went on more hikes. Turns out, what I had thought of as danger was just lack of knowledge. I know not to walk in front of a moving car, despite them being all around. Learn what not to eat, learn the ones that can be confused, learn the ones you can't really fuck up IDing, and it's not as scary as it seems.
Lol You'd think we'd have some sort of easy test strips or something for these, but ig not
I've no idea whether it would be useful for specifically mushroom identification, but I have before wondered before whether maybe future cell phones could incorporate some kind of hyperspectral imaging camera and light to permit for identifying things that look identical to humans.
Foliage that looks fairly-indistinguishable to human eyes can look different if you can sample at more points on the spectrum than the three that human eyes can check for; this has been used to find marijuana plantations with hyperspectral imaging from the air. But if you can get right up next to something and can control the light that it's exposed to, I would guess that it'd be an even easier task to identify something. Doesn't have to just be plants, either.
A spore print is an easy test anyone can do that will keep you from mixing up Amanita (destroying angel) and Agaricus (meadow mushroom). If the spores are cold brown like dark chocolate it's an Agaricus, if they're pinkish white it's an Amanita.
It's not like they're that similar-looking either
destroying angel
Tf this is like the most badass name
I do some light general foraging in the forest I live in and mushrooms are a seasonal treat. And I often have Shaggy Mane mushrooms growing in my yard, (don't worry, I do not use fertilizer or herbicides ever). And fresh chanterelle mushrooms are an edible gift from the gods.
Like most things in life, mushroom hunting isn't super dangerous, (if you mess up the odds are it won't kill you outright but they will make you wish it had), but it does take some learning and practice.
There's a few top edible mushrooms that look like nothing else. Good starting point
Don't shaggy mane grow on manure substrate? They are probably coming up around dog poo or your leach field/septic tank. Delicious mushroom either way!
Not in my yard. While I have hunting dogs, they aren't allowed to run free in the yard without supervision during training exercises. But I do have plenty of deer shit-- I live in the middle of a fairly remote forest.
Most of the shaggy manes grow on a clay hillside that gets lots of leaves in the fall. And they grow nowhere else on my 5 acres of lake shore. The wild raspberries grow everywhere like weeds though. And I don't get bumper crops every year. Sometimes there are none, (wet years), sometimes a small handful, (most years), and sometimes they cover that hillside, (dryer years).
Geology is similar - one gray rock with brown spots is granite, another is zanzibarite - a name I just made up but that's the idea. But then doing geology wrong won't usually kill you.
I still remember when I met a pilot who majored in geology. I asked him "you know the irony in that right?" He says "yep. But hey at least I can tell you about the mountain we're about to crash into."
I've met so many people who didn't professionally do what they majored in - I went from chemistry to programming.
I took a class in Geology, but I failed the final exam...I took everything I had been taught for granite.
LOL!
My college had one geology class and everybody called it Rocks for Jocks, because all the jocks took it to satisfy their science requirement. I heard all you had to do to pass the final was identify all the mineral specimens in this one big display in the hallway. I always saw jocks standing in front of that thing, taking notes so they could memorize it. This was pre-digital-camera.
Mushroom foraging gets so much unreasonable fear that it will kill you instantly the first time you do it. And only people with arcane woodcraft skills and a death wish do it. Yes, there mushrooms that can kill you if you eat them. But a lot of the bad ones will just make you wish they had killed you. But you will survive the experience.
And like many human endeavors, such as skydiving, driving a vehicle, swimming, or crossing a busy street, will quickly get you killed if you do it wrong. It takes education and practice with someone that knows how to do it correctly to learn to do it yourself. Mushroom hunting falls into that same category.
If you wish to do it, take some classes. They can be often found in big cities. Go out with proper experienced guides and perhaps learn a new skill. The hardest part is admitting when you ain't sure if you are right and then walking away. Or not. It's up to you.
Lol. Lmao even. Geochemistry is a big deal. Take a look at the Anaconda Mine.
Thank god I absolutely hate the taste and texture of mushrooms.
I thought I hated mushrooms but it turns out the most common grocery store mushroom is just the worst kind. Crimini/button/portabello it's all Agaricus bisporus and it sucks. Enoki mushrooms opened my eyes and so far I've liked every single mushroom I've tried that isn't that dogshit A bisporus rubbery mud.
I guess. But I don't think my family ever had bought mushrooms apart from shiitake and truffles. All the rest were hand picked in the forest.
I do too... except for shiitake mushrooms, which I absolutely love.
Other than that, I have yet to have a mushroom I really like. Some of them (like the white kind they put on pizza) I would rate as tolerable.
have you tried Pleurotus? It's texture and taste is quite similar but relatively weaker.
It grows on wood like shiitake.
I used to hate the texture, but if cooked right they will be tender (canned mushrooms are probably better added near the end of cooking). Gumminess can also be masked by balancing it with other food (particularly meat, vegetables like potato/squash/broccoli) to chew against/alongside it.
Probably doesn't help if you don't like the taste, though that could just come down to mushroom variety if not also what dish it's in (spices etc).
My family loves mushrooms so there are many types they eat. And I don't like any of them.
I once went for pizza with my gf and had to help her eat hers as well (she can never eat a whole pizza herself). She sadly ordered one with mushrooms and even after taking them off I could not eat more than one piece without getting a strong feeling that I am going to throw up.
Admittedly the mushrooms had quite a strong taste (not the typical ones put on pizza, those barely have any taste hut I still remove them). They left so much of the taste behind it almost made me puke. I just cannot stomach the taste. I have however noticed the mushroom soup my grandma makes (not the cream type) does not have such a strong mushroom taste so I can eat it with just picking out the shrooms.
Jokes on you, they'll all kill me.
Just kidding - jokes on me, I'm allergic :(
To all mushrooms? Are you allergic to beer? I’m sorry, I instantly have a thousand questions
Yes I'm allergic to all mushrooms I've tried - my allergy report just says "mushrooms" so I'd imagine that means all of them. Not anaphylactic but pretty severe bodily evacuation. I did know someone who was deadly allergic to them though, and he said the doctor told him that magic mushrooms would also kill him.
Are there mushrooms in beer? Beer gives me the runs but I always assumed that was because I also have a wheat intolerance.
That's okay, I'm used to questions. I'm also allergic to a ton of raw fruits (mainly apples which actually cause anaphylaxis) and raw veggies. Fine when they're cooked but just not raw ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Read a mushroom textbook 30-years ago, so take this as you will, but it's damned easy to test.
Chip a tiny chunk off with your tooth. Wait 45-mintues. Heart burn, feel weird? Stop. No? Take a bigger chunk. Rinse and repeat.
People act like the tiniest bit of fungus will kill them dead. Not unless your liver has failed, and then you got worse problems.
Anybody know how to trip on Aminata Muscaria? Sure is a lot in the woods around here.
The better advice is if you don't know what something is, don't put it in your mouth at all. If someone was to try this when they are desperate for food, usually if alone and lost, they could make a bad situation even worse.
There are quite a few stories or people eating death caps (Amanita phalloides), especially after cooking and not being able to detect anything off until they need to go to the hospital.
Aminita muscaria has been used medicinally for years and has some really good potential. If you really want to trip though, just stick with psilocybin. Ibotenic acid is a neurotoxin and there is not a reliable way to test dosages at home. The last dosage advice I read was just eat a half mouthfull and you should be good if your stomach doesn't cramp up to all hell. (The companies that have been pumping out muscimol gummies recently are shady as fuck if you were wondering.)
The aminita family is still super interesting though and deserves a ton more research.
If someone was to try this when they are desperate for food, usually if alone and lost, they could make a bad situation even worse.
To add to this, people can go for a very long time without food. We have the convention in of eating multiple times a day in modern society, but if a human needs to live off of fat stores -- and, later, muscle -- they can do it for quite a while, unless they're very emaciated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri's_fast
Angus Barbieri (1938 or 1939 – 7 September 1990) was a Scottish man who fasted for 382 days,[1] from 14 June 1965 to 30 June 1966. He subsisted on tea, coffee, sparkling water, vitamins and yeast extract while living at home in Tayport, Scotland, frequently visiting Maryfield Hospital for medical evaluation. Barbieri went from 456 pounds (207 kg) to 180 pounds (82 kg), losing 276 pounds (125 kg) and setting a record for the length of a fast.[2]
Water is different -- a human can't go for very long without water. Maybe a week or so, though people have gone longer (albeit that unpleasant things are going to be happening to them). IIRC, the world record is some guy in Austria that got accidentally forgotten about in a jail cell, though he was able to get some condensed water from the walls of his cell.
kagis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Mihavecz
Eighteen days later on 19 April, an officer who had unrelated business in the basement opened his cell after noticing the stench that was emanating from it.[4] Mihavecz needed several weeks to regain his health.[2]
But most people are not really in immediate need of food.
A muscaria isn't so much a "trip" as it isn't hallucinogenic, it's more of a deleriant and disassociative. Also it's gonna give you stomach cramps. People generally don't eat them for fun.
Aminita Muscaria can be eaten. There was either a vice article, or video about it. I recall thin slices and frying them was part of the technique.
I imagine it's a stomach cramps and vomiting kind of high like poorly prepared peyote/mescaline.
Erowid should have articles/instructions for preparing Aminita Muscaria, just read some trip reports there. They often include basic steps.
P.S Make sure your mushrooms have ALL the anatomy and colours, and spore print colour of the variety you're looking for.
I followed the work of some A.M. groups for a bit and they have basically proven it can be eaten without dying. The question is, what benefits do the different A.M. compounds have? Unfortunately, everything I heard or read from those groups was anecdotal and not formalized. Admittedly, I am a year or so behind on my fungi studies so there may be new info out there.
Speaking of anecdotal, my experience with psilocybin has been phenomenal. Granted, I don't eat much anymore, but I don't really need to. Studies do support its use for PTSD treatment for vets (me) and for recovering addicts and alcoholics (also me). I only mention this as there are likely thousands of undiscovered compounds in mushrooms that may be phenomenal for mental health The evidence (anecdotal or not) is looking good for A.M.
Alas, there are risks.
poorly prepared peyote/mescaline
Wait, there’s a way to not destroy your stomach?
"And these, will go great with a pizza AND kill you."
This is why you get mushrooms from the market. And why I avoid "functional mushrooms" because poisoning is a function.
Where I live mushrooms from the market are ridiculously expensive. That's why it's so common to go mushroom picking yourself. It's a nice outdoors-y way to spend your time and it's not that difficult if you get a primer from someone seasoned at it. And some mushrooms you'll just find a ton without much effort.
it's not that difficult if you get a primer from someone seasoned at it.
Random thought - this is a rare case where survivorship bias works in my favor. The best mushroom mentors really are the ones that haven't died.
Or at the very least, the very worst mushroom mentors aren't around to teach me...
some of the tastiest mushrooms can never be bought "from the market".
They are rare and their "gatherers" keep their territories as a secret.
the best meal you'll ever have in the rest of your life
Mycophobia is too real y’all.
Some will go excellent with pasta and kill you...
Everyone needs a Paul Stamets on speed dial for emergency mycological classification.
Which one? Eh, forget the question. It doesn't really matter, I'd take both the Star Trek or the real-life Stamets anytime.
Star Trek, real life OR Lemmy Stamets.
Hey, Paul, should I eat this mushroom I found?
Which ones go well with pasta and will kill me the in-laws are visiting and I need an excuse not to be here
Some taste excellent and will kill you!
It could be both.....
¿Por qué no los dos?
Ruleta rusa
From a species that drinks industrial solvents for fun... It doesn't seem quite so implausible.
